New TS-E Lenses for Photokina [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

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<p>We’re told to expect two new Tilt-Shift lenses for Photokina 2014 in September. One will be a direct replacement of the TS-E 45mm f/2.8 and the other will be a longer focal length, however it won’t be a direct replacement of the TS-E 90mm f/2.8.</p>
<p>Both of the new tilt-shift lenses will get the L designation. We’re also told that the new tilt-shift lenses will have a unique feature, though at the moment we don’t know what that might be.</p>
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[hendrik-sg]

Unique feature?

Maybe a uniquely high price?

 

[traveller]

I can't think what "unique feature" would be useful on a tilt-shift... macro capability? IS wouldn't help much on lens that will be used with a tripod 90% of the time; maybe they've worked out how to get AF to work with tilt-shifts (but I doubt it)! Knowing Canon, perhaps they've incorporated defocus control ;D

 

[monkeyhand]

Not sure how "unique" it will be if both lenses have it. I'd like to see it pull of a 1:1 on the longer lens.

 

[preppyak]

Apparently "year of the lens" was meant to be fiscal year 2014

 

[Lawliet]

maybe they've worked out how to get AF to work with tilt-shifts

While PDAF has so many things that can, and will, go wrong: Contrast AF should be trite, from a technical standpoint. And your average subject won't run very fast, no need to hurry.
But fokus peaking from a fully read out sensor would be actually valuable - add some colors, say make 100%-view sharp blink green and within AF tolerance-sharp flash in red. That would be handy. Bonus: Throw in adjustable thresholds.

 

[tolusina]

43mm, please Canon, please?

How about a proper perspective control lens mount configuration similar to the way Schneider impliments.

(photo credit, hot linked from B&H)

 

[privatebydesign]

How about a proper perspective control lens mount configuration similar to the way Schneider impliments.

What does that mean?

 

[Loswr]

No idea what the unique new feature could be, but I suppose it could be just marketing BS. For example, the ability to vary the relative orientation of tilt and shift would be a 'unique new feature' in a 45mm and longer FL TS-E lens, despite already being available on the 17 and 24 II lenses…

Apparently "year of the lens" was meant to be fiscal year 2014

Actually, Canon's fiscal year is the calendar year, so we're already in Q2…

While PDAF has so many things that can, and will, go wrong: Contrast AF should be trite, from a technical standpoint. And your average subject won't run very fast, no need to hurry.
But fokus peaking from a fully read out sensor would be actually valuable - add some colors, say make 100%-view sharp blink green and within AF tolerance-sharp flash in red. That would be handy. Bonus: Throw in adjustable thresholds.

None of those have any bearing on whether or not the lens is capable of autofocus.

How about a proper perspective control lens mount configuration similar to the way Schneider impliments.

That would be very nice. Knowing Canon as we do, I'd expect not a tripod mount, but rather "compatible with Canon Tripod Mount Ring E, available separately."

 

[HarryWintergreen]

Hey folks, let's be fair about Canon. They may me boring most of the time but their TS-E lenses are definitely worth staying with Canon.

 

[tolusina]

How about a proper perspective control lens mount configuration similar to the way Schneider impliments.

What does that mean?

Hold the lens, shift the camera for multi frame pano stitching.
As is now with Canon TS-Es, shift the lens one way, shoot a frame, shift the lens the other way while shifting the camera an equal amount the other way, shoot the second frame, then stitch.

 

[tolusina]

No idea what the unique new feature could be, but I suppose it could be just marketing BS. For example, the ability to vary the relative orientation of tilt and shift would be a 'unique new feature' in a 45mm and longer FL TS-E lens, despite already being available on the 17 and 24 II lenses…

Jeez, if they don't, why bother with new TS-E releases at all?

How about a proper perspective control lens mount configuration similar to the way Schneider impliments.

That would be very nice. Knowing Canon as we do, I'd expect not a tripod mount, but rather "compatible with Canon Tripod Mount Ring E, available separately."

Ugh, so right, that can well be expected. And I'm fine with that, expected and accepted.





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[privatebydesign]

How about a proper perspective control lens mount configuration similar to the way Schneider impliments.

What does that mean?

Hold the lens, shift the camera for multi frame pano stitching.
As is now with Canon TS-Es, shift the lens one way, shoot a frame, shift the lens the other way while shifting the camera an equal amount the other way, shoot the second frame, then stitch.

But holding the lens limits you, effectively, to rear movements only unless you have a good geared head. Rear movements are nowhere near as useful as front movements.

Besides, this meme for shifting the camera not the lens is mostly spurious anyway, inducing parallax to the extent that PS, or any other stitching program, can't deal with it entirely automatically is not a simple task, you have to try pretty hard to actually create the problem. Not saying it can't be done, just that mounting the camera is the far better choice of the two.

I'd like to see some of your own actual images where parallax (the potential problem induced by shifting the lens not the camera) has caused any kind of issue with your image. It was very different when we were shooting film, but digital is so much more powerful.

 

[jasonsim]

Way to go Canon. These are the lenses we all are waiting for!

 

[RGF]

Maybe they'll be tilt, shift and swing lenses?

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a swing lens?

 

[Random Orbits]

Way to go Canon. These are the lenses we all are waiting for!

Curious as to the timing. How big are the 45/90mm TS-Es markets? Thought that the 35L and 100-400L would have been replaced first, but more releases are better than none.

Really interested in what the unique feature would be. Perhaps integrated macro rail into the lens foot?

 

[Random Orbits]

Maybe they'll be tilt, shift and swing lenses?

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a swing lens?

I think dilbert is suggesting a lens that can tilt in two axes at the same time. For view cameras, tilt referreded to up/down and swing left/right movements.

 

[privatebydesign]

Maybe they'll be tilt, shift and swing lenses?

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a swing lens?

Swing is tilt sideways. All Canon Tilt Shift lenses can be used to achieve the Swing movement.

 

[privatebydesign]

Maybe they'll be tilt, shift and swing lenses?

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a swing lens?

I think dilbert is suggesting a lens that can tilt in two axes at the same time. For view cameras, tilt referreded to up/down and swing left/right movements.

Dilbert is being silly. All Canon T/S lenses can be used to combine Tilt and Swing in any direction.

 

[tolusina]

How about a proper perspective control lens mount configuration similar to the way Schneider impliments.

What does that mean?

Hold the lens, shift the camera for multi frame pano stitching.
As is now with Canon TS-Es, shift the lens one way, shoot a frame, shift the lens the other way while shifting the camera an equal amount the other way, shoot the second frame, then stitch.

But holding the lens limits you, effectively, to rear movements only unless you have a good geared head. Rear movements are nowhere near as useful as front movements.

Besides, this meme for shifting the camera not the lens is mostly spurious anyway, inducing parallax to the extent that PS, or any other stitching program, can't deal with it entirely automatically is not a simple task, you have to try pretty hard to actually create the problem. Not saying it can't be done, just that mounting the camera is the far better choice of the two.

I'd like to see some of your own actual images where parallax (the potential problem induced by shifting the lens not the camera) has caused any kind of issue with your image. It was very different when we were shooting film, but digital is so much more powerful.

Please stop. Just stop. I've asked you before to please block me, I'd really rather not enter into arguments with you, you far too far beneath. You may well know more about photography than I and good for you, but I do find your comprehension and manners severely lacking.

I really don't care that you choose to be a Photoshoprapher and choose to do things in post that I'd rather, as a photographer, do in camera as best as is possible. You go right ahead and tweak in post all you want, I don't care.

Above, you asked what a lens mount means, I explained somewhat. I note also, by Neuro's comments, he gets the concept and needs no explanation.

No, there are no TS-E images of mine to post, I don't yet own a TS-E, I've been hoping for a new lens to be released, this rumor fuels my dreams. The 24 sounds about perfect except I don't care for the 24mm perspective. The current 45 and 90 don't have the movement flexibility of the 17 and 24, the Schneiders are too expensive, too manual even for an old guy like me lacking even electronic aperture control, they also have meh reviews.
Um, by design, you've stated your photos are private, you've got a lot of nerve requesting anyone else's.

If Canon is introducing new TS-Es, yeah, I'd like the option of a proper lens mount. That's also optional to use or not, camera mount will still be available.

For all the permutations possible with a TS-E, placing the lens and it's image circle in one place, then moving the sensor within that image circle without tripod gymnastics sounds very desirable to me.
Get IT yet? Or is your repeatedly demonstrated lack of reading comprehension skills guiding your fingers on your keyboard.
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pbd, please, please, just block me already. Yes, I did get your previous PM, d'oh, had I blocked your posts, your PMs would have been blocked too. You must be new to this forum stuff, huh.





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