No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]

[kimvette]

I am not disappointed. If this means that the camera is going to truly be an upgrade, and a 1D-level APS-C camera as some rumors previously indicated (one rumor indicated the camera will be full-size with integrated grip), and if it means much higher DR, finally solving the shadow problems, and a weaker or eliminated AA filter, with 5D mk III-level high ISO performance or better, it is going to be well worth the wait.

But truthfully, only a handful of people outside of Canon know what the 7D prototypes are and how they perform so far, and they only know how that particular prototype they have their hands on works, not the other prototypes other trusted photographers are testing. In any event, if the original 7D's release is any indicator, the Mark II is going to be a fantastic camera.

 

[docsmith]

<p>2014 will be the year for high-end DSLR cameras from Canon, consider this a down year for bodies.</p>

How do you figure the last line? What bodies are due to be updated in 2014? I can see a new rebel and a new 7D. Maybe we get the "High MP" body. But it seems last year was the year of the high end DSLRs with the release of the 1DX (announced the proceeding fall), 5DIII, and 6D. I wouldn't expect those to be replaced until 2015-2017.

Anyway, this rumor just makes me happy that I went ahead and bought a 5DIII.

 

[East Wind Photography]

Ah, my $$$ are safe for yet another year....oh what's that? A 600mm F4L IS III???

 

[Sella174]

and i always thought it´s the photographers job to make interesting characterful images....

Yes, but the equipment helps.

 

[lopicma]

On one hand, it's a disappointment, but on the other, it gives me more time to save up for what could possibly be my last crop sensor camera purchase. You can see I have high hopes on this one ...LOL

 

[dswatson83]

I guess i'll be hanging on to my 7D for a little bit longer. There are some items that I would love to see updated, but it still holds its own, even against the new Nikon D7100. Especially for sports/wildlife. 2 Card slots would be nice though.
Nikon D7100 vs Canon 7D - Fight! - Photography Feature Challenge - Best APS-C DSLR?

 

[eyeland]

I understand that we all have different needs, but personally, I get frustrated from the eternal incremental upgrades.
This thread again reminded me to go out and shoot instead of spending all day chasing dreams

 

[East Wind Photography]

Reminds me of my 3D setup. Just add two wireless shutters on the same channel and you're there.

I guess i'll be hanging on to my 7D for a little bit longer. There are some items that I would love to see updated, but it still holds its own, even against the new Nikon D7100. Especially for sports/wildlife. 2 Card slots would be nice though.
Nikon D7100 vs Canon 7D - Fight! - Photography Feature Challenge - Best APS-C DSLR?

 

[pedro]

oh that will make some people unhappy.....

but maybe all this points to a 180µm process in 2014...
the big MP camera and the 7D MK2 both with a new sensor design made with a new manufacturing process.

prototypes could be out... but for mass manufacturing canon needs to build new factorys or update existing ones. and that takes some time.

The same source does say “several lenses will be coming in 2013″.

well can he be a bit more vague?
what lenses?

+1, same guess when I read it. So there is real joy in the waiting. Wonder what else will come out by 2015 and further down the road.

 

[pedro]

Somewhere in my mind I have the feeling Canon might not be doing the 0.18 micron process at all, but instead going directly to the next one (0.12, 0.09 or 0.065 maybe?), and that is why they have such problems in getting it to roll.

It makes sense doing something like that when you have your own factories and do not want to upgrade them too often. Going to 0.18, just to do it all over again in 2 years? I don't think so. But, leapfrogging the competition and take them by surprise, and in the same time prolonging the active time of the process platform? Yes, I think I'll vote for that.

Even better. Oh, what will a 5D4 be like...na forget it. The 5D3 is still way too much camera for me 8) But as I my current FF lens line up contains about all the ones I will ever need for my type of photography it is quite attractive to save up for whatever may be up next in the 5D series. I will not early adopt it next time, cause the 5D3 is really amazing. But if let's say, ISO 3200 really turn out to be the new ISO 400 in a crop cam like the 7DII, then I do not dare to imagine what the new ISO 51200 will look like on the next 5D...can you? 8)

 

[Rienzphotoz]

No problemo, will wait till next year

 

[Independent]

So what is the best available guidance on when the 70D will be announced? April 23d is long past. What's the best guess now?

 

[Don Haines]

Sigh... no new 7D2 to take pictures of Fluffy with.... I was looking forward to posting ever higher resolution pictures of Fluffy on facebook.....

 

[sanj]

I guess it is still selling well. I suspect they will not introduce replacement till the sales do not drop considerably.
I doubt that delay is a case of improving the model. Three years is long enough for a company like Canon to design a replacement.

I personally am not going to (most likely) ever buy a crop sensor camera again so this delay does not bother me.

 

[RLPhoto]

All the 7D really needed was a better sensor. Otherwise, Near-Perfect camera.

 

[Marsu42]

Wow, they're really milking the 18mp sensor huh ?

This rumor proves the contrary - Canon will release the 70d this year with the updated 18mp sensor (i.e. with af pixels for lv, better noise pattern, less banding) and throw everything they have at it like gps & wifi, improved af/fps (but below current 7d).

But even Canon seems to think that they cannot get away with a 7d2 w/o significant sensor improvement, and since they don't have this sensor atm (proof: 6d) they'll delay another year.

 

[Don Haines]

Somewhere in my mind I have the feeling Canon might not be doing the 0.18 micron process at all, but instead going directly to the next one (0.12, 0.09 or 0.065 maybe?), and that is why they have such problems in getting it to roll.

It makes sense doing something like that when you have your own factories and do not want to upgrade them too often. Going to 0.18, just to do it all over again in 2 years? I don't think so. But, leapfrogging the competition and take them by surprise, and in the same time prolonging the active time of the process platform? Yes, I think I'll vote for that.

Sounds reasonable to me.... Even if the next sensor is at .18 microns, it would still make sense to be replacing the current machines with those capable of even finer resolution so the next couple of improvements will require a minimum of retooling.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

I guess i'll be hanging on to my 7D for a little bit longer. There are some items that I would love to see updated, but it still holds its own, even against the new Nikon D7100. Especially for sports/wildlife. 2 Card slots would be nice though.
Nikon D7100 vs Canon 7D - Fight! - Photography Feature Challenge - Best APS-C DSLR?

Having used 7D for about 3 years (sold to upgrade to 5D MK III, last year) and now using the D7100 (for the past 3 days) I can say that this review is very accurate ... despite D7100 the 7D is still an awesome camera in its own right.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Hopefully it means they are holding off the big ones for a new process that won't get stomped by Exmor.

oh that will make some people unhappy.....

but maybe all this points to a 180µm process in 2014...
the big MP camera and the 7D MK2 both with a new sensor design made with a new manufacturing process.

prototypes could be out... but for mass manufacturing canon needs to build new factorys or update existing ones. and that takes some time.

The same source does say “several lenses will be coming in 2013″.

well can he be a bit more vague?
what lenses?

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Wow, they're really milking the 18mp sensor huh ?

I think they sat around too long and are now scrambling to catch up again with sensor tech and are now getting bitten a bit by their conservative game of the milk the cows.