If the extra wait means two card slots and efficient Eye-AF, then I have no problem waiting another year. The Nikon Z release with only one card slot and no Eye AF sounds like a textbook failure of epic proportions.
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Oh, agreed. But the point remains – Canon, no new FF, Nikon, one unavailable new FF, Sony 2 new FF. Easy to claim victory when no other teams show up at the match. Educated forum members see that for the hollow (local and likely transient) victory that it is.
well to be fair canon is already exploring / augmenting AF with eye detection, as they just started to do that in the EOS-M50.And you make it sound like adding eye AF is something you wake up one morning and decide to add it. People have managed for decades without it, and although it would be great to have it is not one of those make-or-break decisions to delay one of the most anticipated announcements for Canon in years.
who really cares about a small segment of the ILC marketplace? in a market that only makes up 20% of the overall market? when you start to look that detailed, dramatic shifts are to be expected.1. Just admit all you Canon Defense Leaguers - you would have called me really bad names, had I said Sony would ever be #1 in FF ILCs in the US for any half year.
2. I think Sony will very likely also be #1 in FF ILCs for full year 2018.
3. If Nikon can deliver sufficient numbers of Z6/Z7 mirrorfree cameras to the US before end of 2018, I think they will be #2 for FF ILCs. ANd Canon #3.
So well deserved,stupiderrrm "innovative" Canon.
only for spec sheet watchers.If the extra wait means two card slots and efficient Eye-AF, then I have no problem waiting another year. The Nikon Z release with only one card slot and no Eye AF sounds like a textbook failure of epic proportions.
I may finally jump ship this year. I've already sold my 5D3, 70-200L f/2.8 IS II, 16-35 f/2.8 II, and 50 f/1.4. I'm just using a T7i, 77D, M3, M6 and assorted lenses for the time being. I miss the full frame but I've been holding out for news from Canon on a possible new FF mirrorless.
Jumping to Nikon or Sony won't be too hard at this point.
1. Just admit all you Canon Defense Leaguers - you would have called me really bad names, had I said Sony would ever be #1 in FF ILCs in the US for any half year.
2. I think Sony will very likely also be #1 in FF ILCs for full year 2018.
3. If Nikon can deliver sufficient numbers of Z6/Z7 mirrorfree cameras to the US before end of 2018, I think they will be #2 for FF ILCs. ANd Canon #3.
So well deserved,stupiderrrm "innovative" Canon.
I decided to take a time tunnel approach to Canon, traveled back to Canon's ML age and got two mirrorless Canon 7 bodies plus three original Canon rangefinder lenses. Canon's RF 1.4/50mm lens from early 60s e. g. does not need any upgrade. Great gear for having fun in the street, you simply shoot even without chimping on LCD screens - it's all about imagination. You can have even more fun when you enter a fancy Leica shop with that gear and ask for a fitting lens cap. And the best thing about this gear is: you can't vlog! It protects you from making yourself one of those clowns flooding all channels with their brainless blah blah.
I wouldn't have called you bad names, but I wouldn't call myself a "Canon Defence Leaguer" either. It makes no difference to me who is in the lead - I'm happy with my equipment and use it regularly. In fact, I think it is possible that Sony holds that title all year depending on what happens in the next few months.1. Just admit all you Canon Defense Leaguers - you would have called me really bad names, had I said Sony would ever be #1 in FF ILCs in the US for any half year.
2. I think Sony will very likely also be #1 in FF ILCs for full year 2018.
3. If Nikon can deliver sufficient numbers of Z6/Z7 mirrorfree cameras to the US before end of 2018, I think they will be #2 for FF ILCs. ANd Canon #3.
So well deserved,stupiderrrm "innovative" Canon.
don't let the door hit you on the way out...
I wholeheartedly agree AND I want to remain a Canon person. I love CPS and the community.a 5D IV without mirror (but good EVF) could actually be a compelling product.
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(Disclaimer: I have no information who produces the Nikon MILC sensor or in-body stabilization but would be -very- surprised if it was Nikon)
I wholeheartedly agree AND I want to remain a Canon person. I love CPS and the community.
I really want the mirrorless 5D-IV and hope that the announcement is both soon and not disappointing.
This might sound like blasphemy but I just placed an order for the Nikon Z-6 with 24~70 f/4, F adapter, two (expensive) XQD cards plus reader.
24 mp is plenty and priced at $3,100 -- hard to beat. Delivery in November.
If our mirrorless 5D-IV is announced and measures up, I will place a first day order -- no doubts at all. And cancel the Z-6 order.
Let's hope that I cancel the Nikon...!