Two new EOS M camera bodies coming in the second half of 2020 [CR2]
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Would be nice to have an integrated EVF and better weather sealing, but otherwise will just keep my M5 and M6ii. Make great travel cameras an companion cameras for my larger Canon gear.
Why should you? The M6II less than a year old product
Canon itself definitely does not expect people to switch bodies like underwear.
Why should you? The M6II less than a year old product
Exactly! It's less than a year old and only slightly less than €1000. It would be a good moment to sell it, but it does what I need and does it well.
Maybe the ability to have an eye level viewfinder and control external flashes at the same time? Canon really dropped the ball on that one. If they were going to combine the M5 and M6 lines, they should have made it the M5 Mark II and included a built-in EVF so that the hot shoe could be reserved for what it is intended.
That's why many did not even consider buying an M6 Mark II.
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I have the M5. Is the AF in the M6II a significant upgrade?
Yes. It's as revolutionary as the difference between the AF for the 5D Mark II and the 5D Mark III. But you give up the built-in EVF and must use an external EVF mounted on the hot shoe.
Canon is going to introduce more prime M lenses later this year?? Sorry Canon! At the rate I'm going, I'll own the entire Sigma Trinity by July.
No, I really wanted an M like the original M, without EVF. I hate the EVF on the M50, good riddance! The solitary bees emerged this weekend and I did notice that I very much want the tilty-flippy screen back, the M6II screen articulation is only useful if you like photographing nose hair.
If I really need and EVF+flash I use the RP, which I do like. Same screen as the M50, but much better optics in front of it.
I dont realy understand why the M series is still necessary with the R. The RP is allready super small and could get cheaper in the near future. Why not replace any M camera with a RP?
Or they could build a RF camera with an APS-C Sensor... Shouldnt it be super easy to build small APS-C lenses for the R mount? So this could easily replace the M. Whats the necessary of this series?
Or they could build a RF camera with an APS-C Sensor... Shouldnt it be super easy to build small APS-C lenses for the R mount? So this could easily replace the M. Whats the necessary of this series?
The RP body alone is still a lot bigger than an M6II, it only gets worse if you attach lenses. You can almost pack two M+32mm in the space of on RP+50STM.
Overall, bringing IBIS to the M lineup in a higher end body and a mid-level body would make a lot of sense to me. Also, as noted, the higher end body could have a built in EVF. You can call it a M5II, but it could also be a M1.
Canon is showing some signs of taking the M lineup seriously. Anyone that owns the M6 II knows it is actually a very capable little camera. Rumors are that they are adding lenses. A couple could be higher end.
Sometimes it is easiest to define yourself against the competition. For the M, think micro 4/3s, many of the smaller APS-C set ups.
Plus, because of the M mount size vs the size of the R, the M lineup will always be able to be smaller than the R. Then, include the fact that Canon has always done a good job of providing a product at each price point, the M allows them to dip into those lower price points, both with lenses and bodies.
Canon is showing some signs of taking the M lineup seriously. Anyone that owns the M6 II knows it is actually a very capable little camera. Rumors are that they are adding lenses. A couple could be higher end.
Sometimes it is easiest to define yourself against the competition. For the M, think micro 4/3s, many of the smaller APS-C set ups.
Plus, because of the M mount size vs the size of the R, the M lineup will always be able to be smaller than the R. Then, include the fact that Canon has always done a good job of providing a product at each price point, the M allows them to dip into those lower price points, both with lenses and bodies.
Some people prefer small bodies and small, but capable enough, lenses (and some others prefer big bodies and can withstand big lenses because of their advantages). And for them the RP is definitely not "super small".
Just look at this Camerasize comparison:
https://j.mp/2XjPh6y
The RP kit on that picture is 40% heavier.
Of course it could be made. But it seems that Canon does not want to do it. And even if they did it then the lenses would not be as small as M lenses because of the bigger mount. And the APS-C R bodies and lenses would be considered "entry level", "cheap", "for those who never buy a second lens" etc. like it is now with Canon's APS/C DSLRs (e.g. there are no good wide angle primes at all). So I would not expect a nice 12mm or 15mm f/2 primes for the APS-C R, And maybe also no IBIS (like Nikon did with its Z50). Etc.
Keeping M as a different line would allow to make its top model (hopefully M-5II) really top - including IBIS and many other features. And produce good lenses, too.
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Yes ... as "hi end" option. And Canon: please name it EOS M7, in order to stop the whimpering for an EOS R with APS-C sensor.
For me a "mid-level" option please: M50 Mk. II with pop-up EVF, M6 II sensor + AF, IBIS and same price tag as M50.
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