Unreleased Canon Gear Has Appeared for Certification

[Canon Rumors]

<p>Nokishita has posted a bunch of unreleased Canon gear that has appeared for certification. Below is Google translated and I have put what we think each product is.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>PC2276 (EOS M20)</strong>
<ul>
<li>Mirror-less camera</li>
<li>Made in Japan</li>
<li>SKU: 2209C002AA, 2209C012AA, 2209C022AA, 2209C032AA, 2210C002AA, 2210C012AA, 2210C022AA, 2210C032AA, 2211C002AA, 2211C012AA, 2211C022AA, 2211C032AA</li>
<li>Wi-Fi · Bluetooth installed</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>PC 2335 (New G Series PowerShot or SX70 HS)</strong>
<ul>
<li>Digital camera</li>
<li>Made in Japan</li>
<li>SKU: 2208C001AA</li>
<li>Wi-Fi · Bluetooth installed</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Interchangeable lens 1 (EF 85mm f/1.4L IS)</strong>
<ul>
<li>SKU: 2271C005AA</li>
<li>Made in Japan (Utsunomiya Factory)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Interchangeable lens 2 (<del>The EF-S 18-55 f/4-5.6 IS STM in Different Colors</del> This is 3 different lens<del>es</del>)</strong>
<ul>
<li>SKU: 2273C005AA, 2274C005AA, 2275C005AA</li>
<li>Made in Malaysia</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Strobe (A new flash, we haven’t heard anything about)</strong>
<ul>
<li>SKU: 2398C003AA</li>
<li>Made in Japan (Oita)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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[ahsanford]

What an odd bunch of misfits to release alongside a $2k sports car of a portrait lens!

- A

 

[ahsanford]

Also, the f/4-5.6 crop kit zoom seems here to stay. Given the relatively limited applications of 18mm @ f/max (rookie astro work? Handheld church nave? A kid's school concert?), I wonder, would a pure 18-55 f/5.6 IS STM be much smaller?

- A

 

[bereninga]

Any predictions on pricing for the 85mm?

 

[ahsanford]

Any predictions on pricing for the 85mm?

If the f/1.2L II will stick around, one would think this new f/1.4L IS will be the resolution-killer, an 85 Art with first party AF and IS. It may also get the BR gunk. Then you have to get into the cache/lustworthiness of f/1.2 vs. [f/1.4 + IS] (which may be a 'world's first' for marketing purposes, right?) to peg the price.

So I'd guess somewhere between $1500-2000, probably on the high end of that.

- A

 

[bereninga]

Any predictions on pricing for the 85mm?

If the f/1.2L II will stick around, one would think this new f/1.4L IS will be the resolution-killer, an 85 Art with first party AF and IS. It may also get the BR gunk. Then you have to get into the cache/lustworthiness of f/1.2 vs. [f/1.4 + IS] (which may be a 'world's first' for marketing purposes, right?) to peg the price.

So I'd guess somewhere between $1500-2000, probably on the high end of that.

- A

Yeah, good points. Probably $1800. With the 35mm f/1.4 ii going for $1700, this one will be another professional workhorse lens. The Sigma's will certainly be a bargain though.

 

[ahsanford]

Any predictions on pricing for the 85mm?

If the f/1.2L II will stick around, one would think this new f/1.4L IS will be the resolution-killer, an 85 Art with first party AF and IS. It may also get the BR gunk. Then you have to get into the cache/lustworthiness of f/1.2 vs. [f/1.4 + IS] (which may be a 'world's first' for marketing purposes, right?) to peg the price.

So I'd guess somewhere between $1500-2000, probably on the high end of that.

- A

Yeah, good points. Probably $1800. With the 35mm f/1.4 ii going for $1700, this one will be another professional workhorse lens. The Sigma's will certainly be a bargain though.

Potential claims:

Fastest ever L prime with IS

First ever FF f/1.4 prime with IS (can someone correct me there? Is that right?)

Canon might ask for a mint for this the more I think about it. The world is obsessed with max aperture defining the value of a lens (with the exception of the mythical 50 f/1.4 dirt cheapo double gauss designs), but IS drives perceived value as well. Canon could make hay with this.

- A

 

[Khalai]

Also, the f/4-5.6 crop kit zoom seems here to stay. Given the relatively limited applications of 18mm @ f/max (rookie astro work? Handheld church nave? A kid's school concert?), I wonder, would a pure 18-55 f/5.6 IS STM be much smaller?

- A

Or they could take the Fuji way and make EF-S 18-55/2.8-4 IS STM lens
(Fujinon 18-55/2.8-4 LM OIS is a very good kit lens, many Fuji users won't need to upgrade, unless they want constant f/2.8 of a much pricier 16-55/2.8 WR lens).

 

[ahsanford]

Or they could take the Fuji way and make EF-S 18-55/2.8-4 IS STM lens
(Fujinon 18-55/2.8-4 LM OIS is a very good kit lens, many Fuji users won't need to upgrade, unless they want constant f/2.8 of a much pricier 16-55/2.8 WR lens).

You may be on to something there:

Canon 18-55 f/4-5.6: 62mm length, 215g weight
Canon 18-55 f/3.5-5.6: 75mm length, 205g weight
Fuji 18-55 f/2.8-4: 70mm length, 310g weight
Canon 17-55 f/2.8: 112mm length, 645g weight

It would appear that 18mm @ f/3.5 shaves a good centimeter-plus off of the crop kit zoom, but f/2.8-4 just adds a bit of weight. That might be a nice middle ground option over an outright replacement of the 17-55 2.8, aka the 'never will get a version II for more reasons than I can count' lens. :

- A

 

[H. Jones]

Or they could take the Fuji way and make EF-S 18-55/2.8-4 IS STM lens
(Fujinon 18-55/2.8-4 LM OIS is a very good kit lens, many Fuji users won't need to upgrade, unless they want constant f/2.8 of a much pricier 16-55/2.8 WR lens).

That might be a nice middle ground option over an outright replacement of the 17-55 2.8, aka the 'never will get a version II for more reasons than I can count' lens. :

- A

Still always relatively amazed that it exists in the first place considering Canon's crop/FF strategy. I owned it for some time before I switched to full frame, and I had lots of love for it. That said, I do think a 2.8-4 lens would be a fair upgrade for a lot of crop users if it was done well and went to 15mm, and it would still leave constant-aperture EF lenses with some advantage.

On a more relevant note, I am super excited to see how the 85mm F/1.4L IS ends up. I've never really been into primes, but I recently did a CPS evaluation of the 35mm f/1.4L II and fell in love with that lens. I could really see myself using a duo of the 35mm f/1.4L II and 85mm F/1.4L IS for almost everything, if the AF is as great as the 35mm. I hope more details leak out soon!

 

[ahsanford]

On a more relevant note, I am super excited to see how the 85mm F/1.4L IS ends up. I've never really been into primes, but I recently did a CPS evaluation of the 35mm f/1.4L II and fell in love with that lens. I could really see myself using a duo of the 35mm f/1.4L II and 85mm F/1.4L IS for almost everything, if the AF is as great as the 35mm. I hope more details leak out soon!

Regarding that new 85L, I just got a glimpse of Canon's marketing collaterals for it.

- A

 

[Jopa]

On a more relevant note, I am super excited to see how the 85mm F/1.4L IS ends up. I've never really been into primes, but I recently did a CPS evaluation of the 35mm f/1.4L II and fell in love with that lens. I could really see myself using a duo of the 35mm f/1.4L II and 85mm F/1.4L IS for almost everything, if the AF is as great as the 35mm. I hope more details leak out soon!

Regarding that new 85L, I just got a glimpse of Canon's marketing collaterals for it.

- A

Cool new look of Canon's glass! Apparently it should also work with Sigma dock

 

[LonelyBoy]

On a more relevant note, I am super excited to see how the 85mm F/1.4L IS ends up. I've never really been into primes, but I recently did a CPS evaluation of the 35mm f/1.4L II and fell in love with that lens. I could really see myself using a duo of the 35mm f/1.4L II and 85mm F/1.4L IS for almost everything, if the AF is as great as the 35mm. I hope more details leak out soon!

Regarding that new 85L, I just got a glimpse of Canon's marketing collaterals for it.

- A

Well, that brightened up my day!

 

[Chaitanya]

Is it possible that new flash is replacement for long discontinued 320Ex? Maybe just RT Slave capability with lower price tag compared to 430EX-III RT.

 

[YuengLinger]

Optimistic pricing for the 85 f/1.4L IS, Mr. A...

My bet is $2200.

 

[mustafa]

Could PC 2335 be a G5 X MkII? I've been hoping for this for some time.

 

[Antono Refa]

If Canon can make an 85mm f/1.4 lens with IS, maybe it can make a 50mm f/1.4 lens with IS as well.

 

[YuengLinger]

If Canon can make an 85mm f/1.4 lens with IS, maybe it can make a 50mm f/1.4 lens with IS as well.

How about a new version of the 50mm 1.2 WITH AF? I mean AF that works at all distances, f/stops, and fast enough to catch a portrait of somebody sitting still.

Ok, Pookie, I'm being sarcastic, and I'll once again disclose I've never owned a 50mm 1.2. Holding out for the functional version. :

 

[Antono Refa]

If Canon can make an 85mm f/1.4 lens with IS, maybe it can make a 50mm f/1.4 lens with IS as well.

How about a new version of the 50mm 1.2 WITH AF? I mean AF that works at all distances, f/stops, and fast enough to catch a portrait of somebody sitting still.

L primes are too expensive for me, but if Canon gives the 50mm f/1.4 & 85mm f/1.8 the 24-28-35mm treatment, I'll buy 'em both.

 

[ahsanford]

L primes are too expensive for me, but if Canon gives the 50mm f/1.4 & 85mm f/1.8 the 24-28-35mm treatment, I'll buy 'em both.

That was poetry, thank you.

There's no smiling + crying emoji here, so you'll just get the sad + crying emoji from me. :'(

- A