*UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

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PureClassA said:
30MP huh? If the video specs are as rumored here, that will likely make me want to eat the 1DX2 price tag, since I could get more use out of it for my dance subjects (both stills and slow-mo video at 120 fps in 1080p with DPAF that 5D4 likely wont have) instead of renting it every year.

I'm getting antsy. I wish the final specs would just come out already so I figure out what to do LOL

Almost exactly my thoughts.
 
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unfocused said:
I have to admit I'm surprised by 30mp. I guess I am in the minority, not caring about higher mp counts.
Me too, given the core market for this camera you'd think it would have stayed put at 22MP or maybe bumped to 24MP to keep the marketing department happy. 30MP looks like a win for the marketing dept and a loss for the 5DIV's majority/core market.
unfocused said:
Surprised also by the lack of CFast.
Anxiously awaiting more info.
Personally I don't mind one way or the other...but CFast would have been welcomed by many. It's a baffling omission.

-pw
 
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dilbert said:
pwp said:
unfocused said:
I have to admit I'm surprised by 30mp. I guess I am in the minority, not caring about higher mp counts.
Me too, given the core market for this camera you'd think it would have stayed put at 22MP or maybe bumped to 24MP to keep the marketing department happy. 30MP looks like a win for the marketing dept and a loss for the 5DIV's majority/core market.
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I'm sure nobody will be saying "wish they had of stayed at 22MP or 24MP in 12 months (if the 5D4 is 30)

Nobody? "Nobody" is a very big place. You've been reading the posts. The variety of expectations for 5DIV MP's has ranged from 16MP to 40MP. While nobody will dispute 30MP will deliver pixel peepers a tangible IQ hike, that's not the whole story.

It's the busy high volume photographers who want to keep the MP's in the current highly adequate range as happened with the 1DXII. Most would gladly trade 8MP's for improved high iso performance, to maintain current post production performance levels without computer upgrades and to some extent having to manage higher data volumes at the job delivery, storage and backup/archiving stages of their workflow.

Nevertheless, whether the final shipping 5DIV is 22, 24, 28 or 30MP, I'm looking forward to getting my hands on one.

-pw
 
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pwp said:
dilbert said:
pwp said:
unfocused said:
I have to admit I'm surprised by 30mp. I guess I am in the minority, not caring about higher mp counts.
Me too, given the core market for this camera you'd think it would have stayed put at 22MP or maybe bumped to 24MP to keep the marketing department happy. 30MP looks like a win for the marketing dept and a loss for the 5DIV's majority/core market.
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Exactly. Many need a small 1DxII.

I'm sure nobody will be saying "wish they had of stayed at 22MP or 24MP in 12 months (if the 5D4 is 30)

Nobody? "Nobody" is a very big place. You've been reading the posts. The variety of expectations for 5DIV MP's has ranged from 16MP to 40MP. While nobody will dispute 30MP will deliver pixel peepers a tangible IQ hike, that's not the whole story.

It's the busy high volume photographers who want to keep the MP's in the current highly adequate range as happened with the 1DXII. Most would gladly trade 8MP's for improved high iso performance, to maintain current post production performance levels without computer upgrades and to some extent having to manage higher data volumes at the job delivery, storage and backup/archiving stages of their workflow.

Nevertheless, whether the final shipping 5DIV is 22, 24, 28 or 30MP, I'm looking forward to getting my hands on one.

-pw
 
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raptor3x said:
takesome1 said:
There is no way I will buy this body.
It is obvious (by comparison to all the 5Ds posts) the increased pixel density will make it 34% harder to hand hold.

But on a serious note, I wonder what kind of ISO performance it will have.

16% harder, not 34%.

Glad all my lenses are IS ;)

-pw
 
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Price and availability would be nice... ;)

Announcement timeline of the 5D series

- 22 August 2005 for the Mark I
- 17 September 2008 for the Mark II
- 2 March 2012 for the Mark III
- 6 February 2015 for the 5Ds

So an announcement sometime by the 3rd weeks of August or September are likely.

Shipping to happen by December. If Customs keeps it at the pier it will come out January.

In terms of usage the 5Ds and 7D Mark II would have greatly benefited from having the CFast card slot.
 
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dilbert said:
The same might have been said when going from 12MP 5D to 21MP 5DII or ...
"Oh no! More MP! Sky is falling!"

There was a great deal of consensus that something around 20MP was a sweet spot for many photographers. We've hovered around there for some time for good reason, and there was praise for Canon for resisting the temptation and pressure from the marketing dudes when the 5DIII shipped with 22MP.

You'll find personally valid arguments for just about anything, including megapixels. It's about finding the sweet spot for the majority.

MF shooters go in with their eyes open regards data volume. It's a clear choice. Generally MF shooters won't achieve the number of frames shot per project as your typical working 5Dxx / 1-Series shooter, it's a more considered process. Some high volume MF fashion shooters will be an exception here.

-pw
 
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pwp said:
There was a great deal of consensus that something around 20MP was a sweet spot for many photographers. We've hovered around there for some time for good reason, and there was praise for Canon for resisting the temptation and pressure from the marketing dudes when the 5DIII shipped with 22MP.

There was a great deal of consensus that something around 10-12MP was a sweet spot for many photographers. We've hovered around there for some time for good reason, and there was praise for Canon for resisting the temptation and pressure from the marketing dudes when the 1DIII shipped with 12MP.

Hmmm, I guess it's all about timing... ;)
 
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Actually, I like the sound of what I am hearing. It appears that, despite the rumors, Canon kept the 5d4 as primarily a stills camera, with adjunctive video. The reports had been that the camera was going to lean video, which would have been an abrupt departure from the market and the the traditions of this body.

Also, I can live happily with 30mpix. Standards have moved upward in the last few years, and Canon has very strong IS technology, which they have been putting out in lens after lens.

If the sensor is notched up a bit on high ISO, and AF in low light is strengthened, they get to or close to 8fps, along with whatever else they have stitched into the electronics, this could be a very lovely camera to possess and shoot with. And the changes above sort of have to be there to keep the 5d4 separated from the 6d, which is also a very lovely camera.

Canon makes cameras to make pictures with, not to read the spec sheets on, and their cameras are always very lovely to actually use.
 
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unfocused said:
I have to admit I'm surprised by 30mp. I guess I am in the minority, not caring about higher mp counts. I do wonder what the high ISO performance will be like. I expect that it will match the 5D III, but may not exceed it. (Just like the 1DX and 1DX II)

Perhaps sensors have pretty much reached their upper limit on ISO and the major improvements in the next few years will be dynamic range at base ISO and increased megapixel count?

Expanded touchscreen use is a welcome addition. I hope that eventually Canon unlocks some added functionality for the 1DX II -- Going through the "Q" and regular menu by touch would be nice.

Surprised also by the lack of CFast. With only video and the 1Dx using CFast I guess I can't expect the price to drop much anytime soon. I kind of hoped the added demand of a 5D would drive down the price.

Anxiously awaiting more info.

I'm with you about not caring about higher mega pixel counts.

I'd wish instead for 2 Compact Flash slots, 8-10 FPS, Auto AFMA and better ISO performance, but we can't all have what we want. Sadly.

For what I do I am still extremely happy with my 5D mark III and I would instead spend Mark IV money on portable strobes or maybe the new 85mm f/1.2L III when it arrives and maybe a 35mm.

I'll happily wait for a 5d Mark V.

In the morning, I hope your coffee is hot and your donuts still warm.
 
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rrcphoto said:
RBC5 said:
H. Jones said:
Did the image come with the rumors? If so, I put a lot of faith in them-- I'm very confident that image is real.

If the remote release connection is in place of the "Mark IV" badge, according to rumors, and there is the badge and no remote release spot, why do you think the image is real?

that image showed a canon 5D camera that has never been made before. it doesn't match the 5D, II or III camera housings.

so hard not to think it's legit.

Look real close. The badge is the cover. There is a little thumbnail cutout at the bottom for opening.
 
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30 mp a pleasant surprise and better than the 24 that was initially speculated upon. I'm happy with that and the prelim specs posted so far. No CFast card just means that I do not have to spend more money on a new set of memory cards or another reader. The video specs are Ok for me since I'm not a big video guy so I'll leave comments about that to those whose video needs are more important to them. Keep the specs and info coming. A bump from 7 to 8 fps would be nice icing on the cake for me.
 
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StutteringStanley said:
And 120fps @720P???

You realize this camera has to last 3/4 years and its already way under specced compared to the Sony lineup...

Bye Canon.

Bye Stanley. ::) You signed up this evening just to say that. :o
 
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neuroanatomist said:
pwp said:
There was a great deal of consensus that something around 20MP was a sweet spot for many photographers. We've hovered around there for some time for good reason, and there was praise for Canon for resisting the temptation and pressure from the marketing dudes when the 5DIII shipped with 22MP.

There was a great deal of consensus that something around 10-12MP was a sweet spot for many photographers. We've hovered around there for some time for good reason, and there was praise for Canon for resisting the temptation and pressure from the marketing dudes when the 1DIII shipped with 12MP.

It's funny how different people remember things differently. As I recall, when Nikon was at around 12 mp and Canon was climbing up toward 18 (APS-C), lots of folks were complaining that Canon had too many mp and Nikon had better quality because it had fewer mp.

Before the 5DIII came out, there were predictions that Canon would really up the mp count and lots of folks were saying that they didn't want higher megapixels. When the 1Dx and 5DIII came out with modest resolution, people seemed surprised but satisfied.

Then Nikon and Sony leapfrogged Canon and suddenly Canon was "behind." So, now, we are hearing that Canon has to have higher megapixels or it won't be competitive.

Maybe we are in for a serious leap in the standard resolution. I don't really care that much. I'm happy where I'm at and the 1DX II is enough of a camera to keep me satisfied for years.

I just expressed surprise that Canon would go all the way to 30mp and am curious what the trade offs might be. Because, you know...physics is a stubborn thing. So, I imagine there will be trade offs.
 
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StutteringStanley said:
And 120fps @720P???

You realize this camera has to last 3/4 years and its already way under specced compared to the Sony lineup...

Bye Canon.

troll much?

I'd love to see how it's "ALREADY way under specced .. "

when that's the exact same specs of the sony A7RII,etc .. sans sony's color grading hell and consumer class codec's.

and it probably doesn't overheat either.
 
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