*UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications

Meatcurry said:
pwp said:
Meatcurry said:
Where is the damm image, I'm I the only person who didn't see it?

Have a look here:
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_5d4.html

-pw

Just looked, still nothing!

Refresh the post on the site and see the link at the bottom :)
 
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leGreve said:
Why is there no rumor on the codec used?

Makes me think they didn't give a s*** about fixing the aweful color science on the video part. Sure it's useable for clients who don't give a S___ and just want content, but for proper jobs, there is still a lot to be wanted.
Funny considering everyone else talks about the great canon color science.. even in video. ::)

PS. Color science and codec are two different things.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
Meatcurry said:
pwp said:
Meatcurry said:
Where is the damm image, I'm I the only person who didn't see it?

Have a look here:
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_5d4.html

-pw

Just looked, still nothing!

Refresh the post on the site and see the link at the bottom :)

Ahhh ok, thanks
 
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Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications

dilbert said:
Chaitanya said:
Typical Dumbass Canon behaviour, its time to drop CF slot already. Pretty sure Nikon will drop CF from their D810 replacement in favour of XQD.

You obviously don't read CR very much - keeping CF will preserve the "huge" investment many Canon photographers have already made in these cards. That these cards represent an obsolete interface and obsolete technology is beside the point - they still work and people want to keep using them until, well, until they die. While people will be happy to buy newer, faster, CF cards from time to time, buying new CFast cards is just out of the question (even if they're faster.)

Sorry, but this is just complete bullshit. At some point in time you'll have to make the change and I believe we are either very close to this point or past it. What disk slot does you computer feature: 8", 5.25" 3.5"? Ah, tape, sorry nevermind...
 
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Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

It may as well be a long shot but just wanted to share why I think that in that picture the body depicted is the Mark IV.

If you see the differences between 1DX and 1DX Mark II depicted here
Canon-1D-X-Mark-II-image-comparison.jpg

you will see that the top element of the 1DX Mark II has a different style than the one of the 1DX.

Interestingly, the lines and curves appear similar to the "mystery" body presented in the leaked picture.

Hence, if Canon is following a new updated design (for any reason) then the body depicted in the leaked picture is Canon 5D Mark IV.

There you go.
 
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Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications

dilbert said:
Chaitanya said:
Typical Dumbass Canon behaviour, its time to drop CF slot already. Pretty sure Nikon will drop CF from their D810 replacement in favour of XQD.

You obviously don't read CR very much - keeping CF will preserve the "huge" investment many Canon photographers have already made in these cards. That these cards represent an obsolete interface and obsolete technology is beside the point - they still work and people want to keep using them until, well, until they die. While people will be happy to buy newer, faster, CF cards from time to time, buying new CFast cards is just out of the question (even if they're faster.)

Sure CFast are expensive right now but without adoption on wider basis prices won't come down. Also one of the largest user for CF cards were the industrial PCs and even that market has moved away from CF to CFast for quite sometime now. I still dont understand why UHS-II SD cards aren't commonplace yet, other than handful of cameras even this standard has been given a cold shoulder.
 
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-1 said:
pwp said:
unfocused said:
Surprised also by the lack of CFast.
Anxiously awaiting more info.
Personally I don't mind one way or the other...but CFast would have been welcomed by many. It's a baffling omission.

-pw
Not too baffling. This is an blunt atempt to keep the five series out of the pro bag as sidekicks to those 1Dx2s.

No matter what they do, the 5D mark IV is going to end up as a sidekick to the 1dX Mark II. Most journalists I know already have at least one 5D mark III with them at any time. Often times they have two 1D cameras with the 24-70 and 70-200, and then a small, fast prime on a 5D series.

It's just convenient to have a smaller, quieter body to work with, and it's a cheaper way to have another camera with you, CFast or not. Some of the White House press pool still have the old 3 FPS 5D Mark II in their bags, so this would definitely still be a great opportunity for them to upgrade that.
 
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Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications

tpatana said:
pwp said:
raptor3x said:
takesome1 said:
There is no way I will buy this body.
It is obvious (by comparison to all the 5Ds posts) the increased pixel density will make it 34% harder to hand hold.

But on a serious note, I wonder what kind of ISO performance it will have.

16% harder, not 34%.

Glad all my lenses are IS ;)

-pw

Glad I don't have Parkinson's.

I'm glad that I know for a fact that this is a pure BS claim... It will be 100% equal to hand hold for sharpness compared to the 5DIII - and the 5DS/R for that matter.

However, having 30 MPIX will allow for much sharper pictures with the 5DIV (and 5DS/R) than anything the 5DIII can produce if you improve your technique or use a tripod etc.

So - no downsides - only upside from more pixels being available when it comes to sharpness.
 
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Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

I would imagine that for those interested in the 5D Mark IV they will be pleased that it is Dual CF Card. The biggest and fastest CF Cards are getting cheaper and cheaper and do not require any new investment for someone who had a 5D before. Plus being two of the same simplifies things.

I still think that the 1DX Mark II should have been two of the same card slots, but that is another conversation entirely.
 
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I did a screen grab and lifted this little image in PS. That's a damn strange place to have a break / join in the body shells. Maybe I have been right for the last two years; this could be an interchangeable prism finder that can be changed to an EVF one. Pop it on, mirror automatically locks up and you have yourself a FF mirror less using DPAF principally for video, but mirror haters could use it for stills.

Either that or it'a pop up flash, in which case I shall sell up and leave the universe.
 
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Sporgon said:
I did a screen grab and lifted this little image in PS. That's a damn strange place to have a break / join in the body shells. Maybe I have been right for the last two years; this could be an interchangeable prism finder that can be changed to an EVF one. Pop it on, mirror automatically locks up and you have yourself a FF mirror less using DPAF principally for video, but mirror haters could use it for stills.

Either that or it'a pop up flash, in which case I shall sell up and leave the universe.

An interchangeable prism!, now that would be suttin, however I suspect that its just a plastic shroud that allows GPS,WiFi and RT signals through.
 
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romanr74 said:
dilbert said:
Chaitanya said:
Typical Dumbass Canon behaviour, its time to drop CF slot already. Pretty sure Nikon will drop CF from their D810 replacement in favour of XQD.

You obviously don't read CR very much - keeping CF will preserve the "huge" investment many Canon photographers have already made in these cards. That these cards represent an obsolete interface and obsolete technology is beside the point - they still work and people want to keep using them until, well, until they die. While people will be happy to buy newer, faster, CF cards from time to time, buying new CFast cards is just out of the question (even if they're faster.)

Sorry, but this is just complete bullS___. At some point in time you'll have to make the change and I believe we are either very close to this point or past it. What disk slot does you computer feature: 8", 5.25" 3.5"? Ah, tape, sorry nevermind...

That point is when the capacity and/or speed of the recording media becomes a limitation. That was true for the 1D X II for CF, but if it's not the case for the 5DIV, then changing format just for the sake of it becomes a needless additional expense for buyers.

For the 1D X II, it was a needed expense – and Canon helped defray that cost by offering a free card+reader bundle. Doing so for the 5DIV's much larger sales volume would be quite costly. While that doesn't matter to consumers, I can assure you it matters to Canon.

No doubt Canon has data from consumers to support sticking with CF being better for sales, it's also better for most consumers, who likely already have CF cards and readers.

Too bad you can't double the capacity of a CF card by cutting a notch out of the other side and flipping it over. ;)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
romanr74 said:
dilbert said:
Chaitanya said:
Typical Dumbass Canon behaviour, its time to drop CF slot already. Pretty sure Nikon will drop CF from their D810 replacement in favour of XQD.

You obviously don't read CR very much - keeping CF will preserve the "huge" investment many Canon photographers have already made in these cards. That these cards represent an obsolete interface and obsolete technology is beside the point - they still work and people want to keep using them until, well, until they die. While people will be happy to buy newer, faster, CF cards from time to time, buying new CFast cards is just out of the question (even if they're faster.)

Sorry, but this is just complete bullS___. At some point in time you'll have to make the change and I believe we are either very close to this point or past it. What disk slot does you computer feature: 8", 5.25" 3.5"? Ah, tape, sorry nevermind...

That point is when the capacity and/or speed of the recording media becomes a limitation. That was true for the 1D X II for CF, but if it's not the case for the 5DIV, then changing format just for the sake of it becomes a needless additional expense for buyers.

For the 1D X II, it was a needed expense – and Canon helped defray that cost by offering a free card+reader bundle. Doing so for the 5DIV's much larger sales volume would be quite costly. While that doesn't matter to consumers, I can assure you it matters to Canon.

No doubt Canon has data from consumers to support sticking with CF being better for sales, it's also better for most consumers, who likely already have CF cards and readers.

Too bad you can't double the capacity of a CF card by cutting a notch out of the other side and flipping it over. ;)

True short term given you limit the camera specs such that you don't "have to" upgrade to CFast. Yet it remains a short-term trade-off. It will not be possible or reasonable to remaint with an existing technology because the users would have extra investments with a tech change. That will come anyway, and the decision can easily and quickly turn into a handicap.
 
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Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

dilbert said:
Sporgon said:
I did a screen grab and lifted this little image in PS. That's a damn strange place to have a break / join in the body shells. Maybe I have been right for the last two years; this could be an interchangeable prism finder that can be changed to an EVF one. Pop it on, mirror automatically locks up and you have yourself a FF mirror less using DPAF principally for video, but mirror haters could use it for stills.

Either that or it'a pop up flash, in which case I shall sell up and leave the universe.
The "line" that you're referring to is in the wrong place to "slide out" the OVF and replace with an EVF - for starters, it doesn't go under the EVF itself at the back nor go low enough to swap out all of the glass.

The break comes down the front to the lens mount, so with lens detached it could lift forwards. Maybe the same eyepiece is used for both viewfinders, so it doesn't change. It is unlikely to be an identical system to the ones used thirty odd years ago where the eyepiece was part of the finder.
 
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Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Meatcurry said:
Sporgon said:
I did a screen grab and lifted this little image in PS. That's a damn strange place to have a break / join in the body shells. Maybe I have been right for the last two years; this could be an interchangeable prism finder that can be changed to an EVF one. Pop it on, mirror automatically locks up and you have yourself a FF mirror less using DPAF principally for video, but mirror haters could use it for stills.

Either that or it'a pop up flash, in which case I shall sell up and leave the universe.

An interchangeable prism!, now that would be suttin, however I suspect that its just a plastic shroud that allows GPS,WiFi and RT signals through.

The hump on the 1DxII is for gps. Is it plastic ? I'm not sure. I can't see Canon shrouding most of the top of the 5DIV in plastic. At least I hope they haven't.
 
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Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications

Maiaibing said:
tpatana said:
pwp said:
raptor3x said:
takesome1 said:
There is no way I will buy this body.
It is obvious (by comparison to all the 5Ds posts) the increased pixel density will make it 34% harder to hand hold.

But on a serious note, I wonder what kind of ISO performance it will have.

16% harder, not 34%.

Glad all my lenses are IS ;)

-pw

Glad I don't have Parkinson's.

I'm glad that I know for a fact that this is a pure BS claim... It will be 100% equal to hand hold for sharpness compared to the 5DIII - and the 5DS/R for that matter.

However, having 30 MPIX will allow for much sharper pictures with the 5DIV (and 5DS/R) than anything the 5DIII can produce if you improve your technique or use a tripod etc.

So - no downsides - only upside from more pixels being available when it comes to sharpness.

It's amazing to me that people still think that pixel density affects total image noise and shake.
 
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