Wow! This sums it up to a T. Couldn't agree more.Appreciate your input. First, let me make it clear that I have been a Canon user since 1987 and I don't own any Fujicisony wonderba camera gear. That being said, I do judge the R system based on "these two bodies", as you refer to them, because that's all they have, currently. I'm not saying they are not good cameras but they don't fit my needs and they don't work for me. Also, it is not my fault that Canon, almost completely ignored the mirrorless threat, primarily from Sony, for a long long time. Whether the reason was just hoping mirrorless offerings were just a temporary fad and would go away or they were resting on the success of their DSLR offerings, or some other reason, unknown to me, the fact is, they were caught completely off guard by how successful mirrorless body sales were changing the market. So, if they only finally did something about FF mirrorless offerings a year ago, primarily to stop brand defections, that is their fault. They certainly have had the know how, the resources and the qualified engineers for more than a year but failed to take advantage of them. During those years of debate, I would certainly have been thrilled to sit behind closed doors with any of the product development teams at Canon and just listened to the dialogue of verbal volleyball, justifying why they weren't ready to pursue mirrorless cameras, full frame or otherwise. Apparently, they were content to just read Sony's annual financial report, ignoring the resounding success of mirrorless camera sales and profits shown year after year, until they finally saw they were missing out, as DSLR sales continued to slide. Let me make it clear that I love my Canon gear but am most disappointed that I might have to wait a year or more for that Pro R body. In the meantime, it gives me great pleasure that you and others are most happy with your R's performance. Since I am spending my money on any new eqpt and not yours', I'll just wait, optimistically but with guarded anticipation.