What's Next? Lenses & Cameras

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>Lenses</strong>

I’ve heard that Canon will be introducing a lot of new lenses this year. Quite possibly a record amount of new lenses announced in a single calendar year. For the moment, it’s unknown whether the lens count will include any mirrorless camera lenses, or if we’re talking EF lenses.</p>
<p>I will say, Canon may be updating lenses to help resolve a coming huge megapixel camera. We’ve heard previously a lot of short focal length lenses are <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/10/a-loose-roadmap-cr1/">on the update schedule</a>, and we just saw 2 primes and a zoom announced.</p>
<p>Keep watching patents for clues. The <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/01/patents-24mm-f2-8-50mm-f1-2-300mm-f4/">EF 24 f/2.8 seemed like an odd duck</a>, yet here it is. I almost expect  an  EF 50 f/1.2L II, no IS on that one though.</p>
<p><strong>Camera Bodies

</strong>Lots of speculation about the end of the month for a new camera body. However, there is nothing concrete and I’ve been told that things are going “back and forth” in regards to an announcement.</p>
<p>I will say I have heard there will be a very high megapixel camera some time in 2012, possibly in the 40mp range and it won’t be the “5D Mark III”.</p>
<p>The next announcement should be for an EOS body or two.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>
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[mathino]

We've seen a lot of patents in last period of time. I hope for new 50 f/1.4. 14-24 f/2.8 will be also welcomed, I guess (patent exists - was published with 70-200 f/2.8L IS II).

In case of bodies:

1.) I think that there will be one high mpx camera + I assume it will be the 4K with RAW video (which was also patented). It will be low fps, fewer AF points, video and studio focused camera. This could be 4000-4500 USD.

2.) I assume it will be something like posted 5D-X or however it will be called. Light prosumer body with good AF, around 6 fps, +-22 mpx FF sensor, great high ISO and around 3000 USD as price tag goes. This will not be a direct competitor to D800 (fewer mpx, less fps, possibly no RAW video).

3.) I think there will be a Rebel body. Not sure about specs. Maybe they just bump new processor in it and 24 mpx sensor (but currently 18 mpx is enough).

There is, for sure, market for another 2 FF bodies. If they divide them like this, they will definitely profit from this.

 

[pedro]

<p><strong>Camera Bodies

</strong>Lots of speculation about the end of the month for a new camera body. However, there is nothing concrete and I’ve been told that things are going “back and forth” in regards to an announcement.</p>
<p>I will say I have heard there will be a very high megapixel camera some time in 2012, possibly in the 40mp range and it won’t be the “5D Mark III”.</p>
<p>The next announcement should be for an EOS body or two.</p>

If the high MP body is not the 5D Mark III then maybe an allrounder 21-24 MP or the 5Dx as rumored earlier will hopefully materialize. 51K ISO would be okay for me. Well, maybe some very usable 102 K at H1 as well 8)

 

[mathino]

If it's not the 5Diii and if I am right, that's the body linked to high MP count, then maybe an allrounder 21-24 MP or the 5Dx as rumored earlier will hopefully materialize. 51K ISO would be okay for me. Well, maybe some very usable 102 K at H1 as well 8)

+1 on this. I'm in the market for new DSLR as my 450D is out-of-date (but a great camera) and I want FF for my low light work. Native ISO 51K will be great, but I can live with "only" 25 600 without too much visible noise (could be axpandable to 104K if you ask me). And ofc decent AF - 7D AF would work for me. I do not need anything more.

 

[Glider]

Hi All

I have to say with all these new lenses with high resolving power what are we going to put them on???

in other words where are the hi resolution bodies .

 

[mathino]

Hi All

I have to say with all these new lenses with high resolving power what are we going to put them on???

in other words where are the hi resolution bodies .

...as I've said/written before. There was official statement that Canon is developing 4k capable camera. What I think is this will be the high mpx studio camera. There is a market space for such body, but do not expect it to be 2700 USD, better around 4000-4500 USD (that's my guess).

Good and "plausible" dates for announcement are: 25th anniversary of EOS, NAB show in Las Vegas and Photokina.

On CES/PMA was nothing announced in relation with EOS system from Canon, now at CP+ we have 3 new lenses - next is 25th EOS anniversary (really important date so I expect some new stuff), NAB and Photokina.

 

[00Q]

I'd say, I'm ready for rumours about the 24-70mm IS MKIII. Annnouncement yesterday was damn disappointing.

 

[Haydn1971]

Bring it on... I've been saying for months that a 40mpx body has to be in the offing... my money is still on a FF 40mpx 5DIII and a FF 18mpx 9Dx, leaving room for the 7DII to stay APS-C and gradually up the crop game.

Primes are so specialised now, I'm hopeful of a two tier range of outstanding L primes and really very good entry level primes with IS, with the entry level stuff covering a wider range of options. Plus a continuation of upgrades to the stellar tilt-shift lenses

 

[JR]

The good news guys is right around the time the 1DX was announced last year there was no talk of a high MP camera in the works from Canon - or at least this was the corporate policy not to mention it so as to not contradict the 1DX move to have "only" 18MP.

Now that the cat is out of the bag, we keep hearing (well maybe more Graig then us!) more and more of the high MP camera some dream of being part of the 2012 line up. I think it will come after the 5DX or 5DIII and am sure it will blow the D800 out of the water.

12 months from now when all major camera bodies are out and shipping from all major player, not sure we will have so many Canon fans here requestioning their choice (or maybe they will regret switching if they do it too early!).

My two cents.

 

[phischeye]

My hopes are for a soon-to-be released 5DM3 with a recycled 1DX sensor at 18MP and a $2700 price tag. This would be a great entry level FF camera that attracts the prosumer market.

As for the mega pixel monster, I think it is going get a smaller number in front of the D, it might be 2, 3 or 4. Since 3D might be misleading (but if you spend $3500 and more on a body, you should know what your are getting) my bets are on 4D. The smaller the number, the pricier. And if it really is the 4k cinema camera, 4D makes sense. With 40MP and a price tag of $4000+.

just my 2 cents

 

[bsbeamer]

Really hoping for a 7DMkII announcement in the next few weeks. Ideally with a swivel screen, but if not it won't be a deal killer. Also a T4i would be great news and a good second body for my needs - both video and photo.

Looking to upgrade my personal camera body soon and have been holding off for these upgrades before making the investment.

Professionally, if the T4i is a Digic 5 sensor, the video quality should improve in low light a bit more and would be a great second or third camera on shoots for relatively low cost.

 

[mathino]

My hopes are for a soon-to-be released 5DM3 with a recycled 1DX sensor at 18MP and a $2700 price tag. This would be a great entry level FF camera that attracts the prosumer market.

As for the mega pixel monster, I think it is going get a smaller number on front of the D, it might be 2, 3 or 4. Since 3D might be misleading (but if you spend $3500 and more on a body, you should know what your are getting) my bets are on 4D. The smaller the number, the pricier. And if it really is the 4k cinema camera, 4D makes sense. With 40MP and a price tag of $4000+.

just my 2 cents

+1

Same feeling here. Deifinitely will be above 4000+ USD in case of 4k capable camera.

As for affordable FF, I don't mind if it will be 18 mpx or 22 mpx. Just put good AF at least 7D-like and I will be pleased. Native ISO 100-12800 or 100-25600 will be enough for most of people.

 

[Stuart]

With much better MTF edge performance and a new 82mm filter could a new high MP camera actually have a larger sensor than FF, not much larger but more able to use the lens to the edges.

 

[outsider]

With much better MTF edge performance and a new 82mm filter could a new high MP camera actually have a larger sensor than FF, not much larger but more able to use the lens to the edges.

Doubtful.
Unless the lenses had a new designation (like the EF-S lenses were for ASP-C sensor cameras) I don't think Canon would put out a larger then FF sensor for a few lenses.

Also, I don't know how much more usable are there is outside the FF area.

 

[frisk]

Regarding bodies, what I hope Canon will do is to introduce two new bodies this year, and the rumours suggesting that there are different prototypes being tested make me hope this might even be the case - after all Canon probably realizes it cannot make everyone happy with a single offering.

So, if I speculate about what Canon might be offering in the $2700-$4500 range, this is what I would predict:

On one end there would be a high-MP camera for landscape/studio photographers, meant to compete against the new Nikon. As someone pointed out, a 40MP camera would also be the right size for 4x4 oversampling - very convenient for top-notch video performance. For this market, it should be possible to sacrifice high-ISO and FPS performance - that is not the primary need of the potential customers for this one.

The other camera would be the "junior" version of the 1DX - a little less of everything. Smaller body, single Digic, single card, 22 MPs, and maybe 6-7 fps, but with a much improved focus system compared to 5DII and a very-good high-ISO performance. Some people might see this as a FF upgrade for 7D users as well.

 

[phischeye]

On one end there would be a high-MP camera for landscape/studio photographers, meant to compete against the new Nikon. As someone pointed out, a 40MP camera would also be the right size for 4x4 oversampling - very convenient for top-notch video performance. For this market, it should be possible to sacrifice high-ISO and FPS performance - that is not the primary need of the potential customers for this one.

Yea, I can see that. With the 24-70 NO-IS release yesterday, I bet canon wants to make sure that the 4K video folks have a decent lens. And from what I am told, IS is not so good on video.

 

[heron88]

I'm in for a 4k, 40mp, for $4k May change my mind if it doesn't have a raw codec. 4k doesn't mean anything to me if its highly compressed. I prefer raw 1080p over compressed 4k for sure.

Also, I know this is a long shot and hasn't been mentioned at all, but if Canon could somehow squeeze in 120fps at full HD for us, that would be AWESOME

 

[Woody]

Thom Hogan believes "Nikon and Canon came to a similar conclusion: amateurs need more pixels, pros probably don't." - quoted from
http://bythom.com/2011%20Nikon%20News.htm

If Thom Hogan is right, I wonder if the 40+ MP FF camera is going to be packaged in a Rebel-like camera? Just curious...

 

[crjiro]

On one end there would be a high-MP camera for landscape/studio photographers, meant to compete against the new Nikon. As someone pointed out, a 40MP camera would also be the right size for 4x4 oversampling - very convenient for top-notch video performance. For this market, it should be possible to sacrifice high-ISO and FPS performance - that is not the primary need of the potential customers for this one.

Yea, I can see that. With the 24-70 NO-IS release yesterday, I bet canon wants to make sure that the 4K video folks have a decent lens. And from what I am told, IS is not so good on video.

Why not? The 100LMacroIS is really good. If people don't like IS, they can turn it off. I can't see paying so much for the new 24-70 w/o IS. The price is too high.

 

[vlim]

you know what, i don't really care about these bodies because i can't afford them for now and i might be wrong but we have already great bodies available But a great lens, affordable and weather sealed that i can use for wildlife photography that's what i'm waiting for !

Of course i'm talking about new versions of the 300 f/4 L IS (since 1997), 400 f/5.6 L (since 1993) and even 100-400 f/4-5.6 L IS (since 1998).

And i think (i should say i hope) one of them is coming this year 8)