With D800, are 5dII owners seriously considering switching systems? Like now?

[BornNearDaBayou]

I cannot believe what Nikon has put together! It baffles me Canon doesn't already have something near these specs. I'm just contemplating, but if Canon had a high MP DSLR that rivaled these specs we should have already heard by now.

I have a D7000 and a 5DII, which I will probably sell BOTH to buy the D800. Call me a traitor, or whatever, but I do not need high FPS and extreme ISO performance. I am still a "prosumer" and have not to this date sold any prints for any money. Sorry, but I like the best equipment for the best price. I have the following Canon glass: 28-135IS, 35L, 50 1.8 i (metal mount), 17-40L, 70-300 IS

On the Nikon side, I have the following glass: 35/1.8 DX, 50/1.8 AF-D, 85/1.8 AF-D, Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8, 70-300 VR. I planned for an eventual switch in case Nikon had a superior product. Right now it appears they do.

 

[Z]

The grass may seem greener on the other side, and who knows, maybe it is... but by how much?

Enough to warrant the time and financial loss of selling all my Canon equipment and learning the Nikon system inside-out? Not for me - I know I could spend that time more effectively.

 

[Canon-F1]

. I am still a "prosumer" and have not to this date sold any prints for any money.

so what do you need 36 MP for? im puzzled!

and as long as we don´t have the 5D MK3 specs.. what do you compare the nikon D800 specs too? a 3 years old camera like the 5D MK2 or the 1D X?

 

[Loswr]

what do you compare the nikon D800 specs too? ... the 1D X?

Yes - and it's rather sad for Canon that we actually can make such a comparison.

 

[Astro]

,. I am still a "prosumer" and have not to this date sold any prints for any money.

but you DO a lot of big size prints... right?
that´s why you are in desperate need of a high MP camera (>30MP).

 

[nicku]

let me tell you what i will do:

I will wait 1-2 months until the 5DmK3 is announced and buy a brand new 5Dmk2 at $2000 or under. For what i use the camera (microstock and studio) 21 MP and very good IQ is more than enough.

 

[Astro]

what do you compare the nikon D800 specs too? ... the 1D X?

Yes - and it's rather sad for Canon that we actually can make such a comparison.

well i don´t believe that the group canon aims at with the 1D X will be satisfied by 4 FPS....

 

[Flake]

I cannot believe what Nikon has put together! It baffles me Canon doesn't already have something near these specs. I'm just contemplating, but if Canon had a high MP DSLR that rivaled these specs we should have already heard by now.

I have a D7000 and a 5DII, which I will probably sell BOTH to buy the D800. Call me a traitor, or whatever, but I do not need high FPS and extreme ISO performance. I am still a "prosumer" and have not to this date sold any prints for any money. Sorry, but I like the best equipment for the best price. I have the following Canon glass: 28-135IS, 35L, 50 1.8 i (metal mount), 17-40L, 70-300 IS

On the Nikon side, I have the following glass: 35/1.8 DX, 50/1.8 AF-D, 85/1.8 AF-D, Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8, 70-300 VR. I planned for an eventual switch in case Nikon had a superior product. Right now it appears they do.

And what is the maximum Iso on the D7000 ? wouldn't be Iso 6400 would it? With users complaining about poor performance at Iso 800 up (commercially unuseable) it might be best to wait until the reviews pass their verdict.

You haven't even waitied to see what the Canon answer will be, if it was just the 5D MkII then I'd perhaps agree with you, but until both are launched and in the field then I will be witholding judgement.

 

[Fperez]

I cannot believe what Nikon has put together! It baffles me Canon doesn't already have something near these specs. I'm just contemplating, but if Canon had a high MP DSLR that rivaled these specs we should have already heard by now.

I have a D7000 and a 5DII, which I will probably sell BOTH to buy the D800. Call me a traitor, or whatever, but I do not need high FPS and extreme ISO performance. I am still a "prosumer" and have not to this date sold any prints for any money. Sorry, but I like the best equipment for the best price. I have the following Canon glass: 28-135IS, 35L, 50 1.8 i (metal mount), 17-40L, 70-300 IS

On the Nikon side, I have the following glass: 35/1.8 DX, 50/1.8 AF-D, 85/1.8 AF-D, Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8, 70-300 VR. I planned for an eventual switch in case Nikon had a superior product. Right now it appears they do.

"Patience, young padawan"

We didn't see Canon's camera, why the rush when you don't even depend on the cameras for a job?

 

[justsomedude]

. I am still a "prosumer" and have not to this date sold any prints for any money.

so what do you need 36 MP for? im puzzled!

+1

wtf?

 

[sb]

Sorry, but I like the best equipment for the best price.

Sounds like you're more interested in collecting equipment than taking pictures. Relax.

 

[Orangutan]

Remember some important considerations:

• Canon has been making good business decisions over the last few years (not always what we wanted, in the ideal, but good for business)
• Canon was not hit as hard by the SE Asia disasters as was Nikon
• Canon has outstanding R&D facilities

It's a safe bet (though not certain) that Canon has been waiting for Nikon to show its hand. Seems likely that Canon has several options nearly ready for RTM, just waiting to see where it wants to position in the market. It would be unwise to jump now. Better to wait until the D800 actually ships.

 

[vbi]

Um...no. To be quite honest the preview pics don't look to have any better IQ than my 5D2. And I know that I can take very acceptable pics at 3200 ISO or even 6400. No high ISO pics for the D800 yet, so the big question is....has Nikon been able to retain IQ at high ISO with the high number of pixels , which logically must be quite small compared to the 5D, which logically will generate more noise.

Lastly, I have an investment in lenses that is worth 5 times what the 5D costs. Why on earth would I throw that away?

 

[Caps18]

It will be interesting to see what Canon releases next. And an extra 50% more pixels wouldn't hurt. But only if it doesn't run into the noise and lens resolving problems. It won't help in some/most pictures, but in other ones, it can make a lot of difference. And $3000 is a reasonable price. We shall see how it really performs. But, I agree that I am stuck with Canon now due to the lenses, and I like their buttons better.

But, I would rather have a camera that could do panoramas, GPS, and HDR right when you take a photo than more MP.

 

[cfargo]

With Nikon's lack of support and there unwillingness to sell parts, I don't care what they make at whatever price, I wouldn't buy Nikon. I would give up photography first.

 

[Narcolepsy]

I was really unimpressed with the amount of noise in the landscape example
http://chsvimg.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/img/sample01/img_05_l.jpg

Look at the green bushes just behind the yellow flowers

This picture makes me happier that I bought the 5D2 late last year, not regret it

 

[KeithR]

No high ISO pics for the D800 yet

This is rumoured to be from the D800 (the 4912 x 7360 image size fits). It looks OK - nothing special, but OK - for 6400 ISO.

Has Nikon been able to retain IQ at high ISO with the high number of pixels , which logically must be quite small compared to the 5D, which logically will generate more noise.

Just no.

More, smaller pixels do not mean more noise at the image level.

 

[scottkinfw]

Exactly, Jedi Master!

I anxiously await the 5D II. Like everyone else, I am stoked by the hype. However, getting long in the tooth myself, I know that we must actually see what materializes, and not just jump at speculation and perhaps empty numerical specs that have no correlation to real world results.

For me, I will remain excited to see how this drama plays out, and, likely purchase a 5DIII when early reports come in favorably.

Patience is tough!

sek

I cannot believe what Nikon has put together! It baffles me Canon doesn't already have something near these specs. I'm just contemplating, but if Canon had a high MP DSLR that rivaled these specs we should have already heard by now.

I have a D7000 and a 5DII, which I will probably sell BOTH to buy the D800. Call me a traitor, or whatever, but I do not need high FPS and extreme ISO performance. I am still a "prosumer" and have not to this date sold any prints for any money. Sorry, but I like the best equipment for the best price. I have the following Canon glass: 28-135IS, 35L, 50 1.8 i (metal mount), 17-40L, 70-300 IS

On the Nikon side, I have the following glass: 35/1.8 DX, 50/1.8 AF-D, 85/1.8 AF-D, Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8, 70-300 VR. I planned for an eventual switch in case Nikon had a superior product. Right now it appears they do.

"Patience, young padawan"

We didn't see Canon's camera, why the rush when you don't even depend on the cameras for a job?

 

[CJRodgers]

I read a post on nikon rumors which said 36mp was great because 6mp was enough for most prints. Meaning he could sell some of his zooms and get a 24mm 1.4 and 85mm 1.4 and with the use of cropping turn instead of zoom use these as 24-70 and 70-200mm lens. He was saying cropping vs zooming doesnt make a difference and that this wouldnt be possible to this much of an extent with a less mpx rich sensor.

What do those of you more intelligent than me make of this? It would be attractive to not need expensive zooms!?

 

[TexPhoto]

My 5dII is still a great camera, and it's 3+ years old! I can wait an extra month or 2 for Canon to bring their answer to the D800.