To support Neuros EF protocol theory: It is with the current firmware impossible to use the focus ring for anything else than to focus. Had hoped that the lens behaves simmilar to Canons RF lenses but sadly no..

I have the Laowa 58 and 90mm macros and they are quite nice. I would like this 28mm f/1.2 for astro, but the Argus lenses have so far been very soft wide open and also show coma. I'll await independent testing, with low expectations.

Since this was necrothreaded, I’ll point out that the EXIF is accurate.

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You are right I'm wrong, I was living in my own Micro Cosmos where the crop factor of the R7 worked for my mind as the equalizer back to 200mm but of course that does not affect EXIF

Nay

puffo25 said:

In conclusion, which option do you think is better for me?

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As @Michael Clark says, only you can decide what’s better for you. There’s very little to distinguish among L-series lenses and even many non-L lenses in terms of image quality at typical outputs today. If you share digital images or print smaller than A2 (~16x24”) then the lens-based IQ is likely irrelevant. For example, at 24mm, you’d be hard-pressed to see a difference between the RF 24-70/2.8L, RF 24-105/4L and RF 24/1.8 STM.

Given that, I’d suggest that you base decisions on lens parameters other than IQ, which mainly leaves zoom range and max aperture. There are certainly times when one stop matters, such as indoor events. That’s why I just bought a 100-300/2.8. But personally, I don’t typically run into that while traveling.

For example, on my upcoming summer family trip, my walkaround kit will be the R8, RF 14-35/4L, RF 24-105/4L, and RF 24/1.8 (the fast prime for inside museums, because whereas 1 stop doesn’t really matter, 3 stops does). I’ll also bring the TS-E 17/4 and probably the RF 100-400 non-L along with a tripod, for going out solo at golden/blue hour.

The Shure VP83F LensHopper merges all the functionality of the VP83 camera-mount shotgun mic with a self-contained recorder and a dedicated headphone jack. $299

Hey cheers for the reply Sporgon
Tbh I’ve never really used it, always dismissed it as a point and shoot and not worthy of carrying thus opting for the more serious stuff….AKA aps-c/ff DSLR’s!!

However I took another look at it recently and WOW!! totally surprised me. I’m actually using it like a 80’s film compact with the rear lcd switched off and opting for the very (very) basic OVF to compose…all I have is a green light to say the camera has focused on something just like the 80’s!!
I quite like not knowing what I’m getting tbh and being pleasantly surprised at the outcome. Yes, some shots are totally off the mark, but by and large the little G16 is great.
For some reason I’ve become jaded recently by the whole “everything must be perfect” photography mindset - I’m liking this mystery carefree approach….particularly shooting from the hip at 28mm
I’ve got some fabulous candids of friends and family that I otherwise would never get.
I might just take this on holiday and leave to chance what the G16 captures.
The upside is that the battery seems to last forever without the rear screen on.

They just dropped the price on the R6. Cheap. I know you didnt list this camera, but I bet that you will be shocked. These cameras are just pretty damn impressive all the way around. At the price, you are not going to go wrong. The systems are different and going to take you a bit to get used to, so having the camera and learning it will help you when the R5-2 is released.

ata bora said:

https://canon.jp/support/software/os/select/cdc/eosr7-v131-win working,

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Thanks for the link, I tend to avoid the main Japanese site and instead download from Canon Singapore (I find the English translation is better) if I want to be on the cutting edge of the release window.

We are spoiled for choice on where to download Canon's files.

I simply found it amusing that I got an email notification to download a new firmware that is not yet posted on the Canada site.

Cheers

Chiphadzuwa said:

It would be lovely to see an R3 II with a 45 MB sensor, wouldn't it?

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I predict it will be closer to 30 MP.
The Z 8 kind of makes it look like it was a bad idea for Canon to not release a camera in the 45 MP range with a stacked sensor ahead of the R1.
I do not see Canon having a 45 MP camera in the $4K USD price range that also has a stacked sensor for quite some time.
Sony could always drop the price of the a1.
I do not think they will though with the a9 III coming.
I also predict that the a9 III will be 33 MP and around $4,500-$5K USD.

Generally speaking, i hope dat Canon will release (or allow from third parties) lenses with a better quality than the current consumer lenses. I have read tests about these RF lenses and they present good pictures after post processing in body or computer software. Some recent third party lenses are good en require less post work on a computer. There are, of course, the L lenses. But, you need deep pockets to buy them. So, affordable, good quality lenses please for RF as well as RFs in between the consumer class and the L class.

[email protected] said:

BUT the resale value of those isn't going to go down as much

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I also got mine at Adorama's half-price sale. I can't remember the exact figures but it might have been US$549 even though it was normally $1100 or something. In Tokyo it was I think around US$900 or something.

My copy doesn't seem to be super-sharp but it does seem to have zero coma. My old EF35/1.4 MkI had coma from hell, and as I had just gotten a Leica M6 I got the 35/1.4ASPH and sold the Canon. Looking at this old photo--what camera did I take it with, must have been the EOS-3?? I'm surprised to see the rub marks on the EF35. I must have used it more than I recall. (Or maybe I bought it used?? but within a few months of going on sale??)

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My wife edits a wildlife magazine, and usually travels with the 100-500 along with the 100 L macro (ef). Over time, she's pretty much stopped taking out the macro, except when she needs actual 1:1 reproduction ratio. The big zoom really does it all. Coupled with the R5, she can crop most times to get effectively macro shots. She notices no image quality issues between the two, except for less control over subject movement for things like flowers in light wind, where she can hold the stem while using the 100.

For my part, I just find it delicious that she's wandering around with multiple lenses. She used to make fun of me for that.

I use the RF 100 macro, and the additional reproduction ratio can be useful on the smallest of subjects, but is difficult to achieve reliable focus and focus stack sets while running and gunning at those extreme magnifications. I have to use artificial light to freeze things, and that's a step too far for her. Like her, I usually just take the 100-500 and take advantage of the opportunities presented with later cropping.

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I got the RF 100-500mm for use on the R5 as soon as it came out and for insects and birds. As far as I am concerned for my purposes, it does everything I want, and I grab that combo or the R7/RF 100-400, apart from BIF where the R5 is much better. The versatility of that that lens is such a plus combined with its sharpness and speedy AF, it made my 400mm DO II (and Nikon 500mm f/5.6 PF) redundant.

neuroanatomist said:

Odd. I’ve been using the Canon RT system for over a decade, never had any issues with the link dropping. I have four 600 flashes, started with the ST-E3 and now use the ST-E10 though I frequently trigger with an 600 on-camera.

Indoors, outdoors, home and public venues, never an issue. In terms of interference, my home Wi-Fi network has dozens of devices on it, with many on the 2.4 GHz band including streaming security cameras.

I wonder if these issues represent a hardware problem.

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In other forums, many photographers have reported the same problem. Some have apparently sent their trigger/flashes to Canon for "repair" but only to continue to have the same problem, so a "hardware problem" seems unlikely.

kaihp said:

I pulled out the R3 and compared it to the image. There are several minor details on the body in the image that doesn't look like the R3. The "pentaprism box" is flatter, the shadow around the vertical grip, and that small rectangular "box" on the top side near the shutter button.

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C…90?

Sporgon said:

Very nice @Del Paso, but how’s that supposed to be easy ? I bet you have the same personality as my school days Latin teacher !!

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I thought it easy, because the park is famed in Europe for its collection of rhododendrons and peonies, and also because many CanonRumors posters are from Western Europe, and could have visited it.
I'm quite sure, some CanonForum users have been there (I saw half a dozen big whites last time...)
PS: my Latin teacher was a very friendly and human lady!

But despite some drawbacks, I like the R7 overall . Its AF is often great and very fast even with my EF 500mm + 1.4 TC Mk III, sometimes funnily wrong - typical for current AI enhanced performance. Here is a long-tailed tit I shot with that combo

Nothing to see here.
A Chinese website is referencing an old CR thread:

https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/t...5-5-6-is-stm-coming-first-half-of-2023.42023/

edknuff said:

It appears the 5Div is no longer supported?

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what makes you say this? so far as i can tell it is still a current product.

LSXPhotog said:

The only lenses I’ve heard that had any real problems were the Tamron and Sigma 150-600 lenses having focus pulsing issues.

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I tested the Tamron of a friend and it was terrible including locking the R5.

MiJax said:

The tech used is vitally important to the outcome. A stacked sensor is better in almost every way except cost and power usage. Honestly, your argument will stand up to a use case of non-action photography, but when the action picks up, the needle swings clearly to the stacked sensor. Not to mention, the other improvements that come from being able to move data off the sensor at significant faster rates. This clearly is an advantage that has a bit of runway to use.

Like you said, setting the tone is offering a better value for money. Nikon has done just that here. I can't see how this body will not have a clear advantage on the entire mid to upper end of the market. Its a match for any flagship, only coming up short to them by the slightest of margins, all while costing significantly less. Its spec'ed better than all of its peers in many categories with two significant exceptions (slightly behind Canon and Sony in AF, and Sony's A7R5 in resolution), at only a slight price bump.

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You didn't follow my point well. In theory, a BSI sensor can capture 100% of light whereas a FSI can capture up to ~80% but DXO (love it or hate it) compares the R5 sensor vs A7Riii/iv and Z7 at the time of release...

"Current state-of-the-art BSI-CMOS sensors used in the Sony A7R III and IV and in the Nikon D850 and Z 7 (and in the new Z 7 II), and in Panasonic Lumix DC-S1R, offer lower noise levels and occupy the top positions in overall sensor dynamics in the 30-60 MP range. However, as we can see in the table below, the new 45 MP EOS R5 sensor has excellent maximum dynamic range at base and it is close to the best-in-class (BSI) sensors throughout the ISO range."

A stacked sensor in theory will be the fastest read speed / less rolling shutter. Flash sync speed in eshutter is a good measure I guess but the sensor mp will also affect the read speed. but I am struggling to find one site that has been able to measure all the sensors - especially for stills.
For 8k video both the A1 and R5 are about 16ms.

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I just don't see how this body is just a matter fact release. I don't see this release being any less significant than the R5, A9, D500, or 5D in the past. No one has ever given the market flagship performance at mid level prices (the R5 was probably the closest, with the A9's elevated price being a close second).

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You have given 2 examples in the last 3 years to prove that the Z8 is unique?

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We'll see if I'm right or wrong fairly soon, because Nikon is planning to flood the stores with a fairly strong supply from the release date. I feel like the proof will be in its adoption.

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Every new release will have some supply to support pre-orders. Some better than others. Having a feeling is one thing... there have been some where the shipping dates have slipped because of supply problems. The proof will be in their market share and profitability.

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Personally, I think its a good thing you don't care about the hardware advancement shown on the Z8, at the price point. I honestly don't think Canon is going to match this hardware decision for years to come. I really hope I'm wrong on this one, but I'm not holding my breath.

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The Z8 is 3 years later than the R5. At no point am I saying that the Z8 is a bad camera. I am saying that technology in theory doesn't always translate to significant improvements in practice or whether they are even relevant to the majority of users given the cost disadvantage.

Each OEM will leap frog the other at times and Canon was late to the mirrorless party. The R5 leapfrogged everything else until the A1 and then Z9 which were much more expensive.
The R5ii is rumoured... how about you comment once it is released vs Z8
Nikon have a market share issue. I hope that they can become competitive over the long term and are not using lower prices to gain market share impacting their ability to innovate in the future. 3 strong competitors is good for everyone.

SwissFrank said:

I also somehow completely missed that a RF 24mm f/1.8 went on sale a year ago?!?? I assume you knew that and just wanted something yet more compact? Which I totally understand.

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Yes, more compact. Neuro suggested that the RF 28mm may even be a real pancake:

https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/threads/canon-r100.42355/post-962375

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shadowsports said:

Indeed and agree. I've removed the post.

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Thank you, I appreciate that. also deleting.

To each their own I guess, in regards to third party batteries and buying from Amazon.

I try to do some research before I buy and not just jump on the first cheapest thing I can find and FWIW the Neewer LP-E6NH's I've got all work great and has full high speed shooting functionality just like my OEM's; can't comment on battery life but I don't feel they're draining any (noticeably) faster compared to the OEM and on top of that I can get 2x Neewer + charger for half the price of a single Canon OEM so I'd hardly call that chump change.

Haven't had issues with memory card purchases as well (knock on wood); they're usually simple enough to test if they're genuine or not anyway plus it's easy returns with Amazon.