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Canon EOS-R or How Canon Nailed the Entrance into the Mirrorless FullFrame Market

Maybe a bit provocative title of my review of the EOS R. I have it in use since almost 3 weeks now. I am really excited about this camera!

Here is my verdict:

Wow, what a camera... It delivers all what I expected to get. Using the EOS M5 since almost 2 years as my main travel camera I knew that Canon is delivering great gear on the mirrorless side as well. Therefore the R is definitely the next level for my "always with me travel camera"! The great thing is that it delivers those features which I missed mostly on the M5:Better low light performance and more bokeh and that's just related to sensor size. And weather sealing... But unfortunately the first RF-mount lens to come will be the 35mm f1.8 - and this one comes without weather sealing...

The EOS-R is a remarkable camera. Tt can be a work horse for all "normal" needs - and I believe for working professionals as well. I would think it will become a believed camera for travel photographers, who do want to be a bit more discrete and do won't to carry less.

For many topics which are critizised in the online community there are workarounds or solutions built in which are made pretty awesome. But you have to figure them out and maybe to learn how to use them....

I do expect more glass for the RF mount. And the list if the expected glass to come is impressive:
  • Zooms: the holy trinity is more ore less confirmed to come in 2019
    • 16-35mm f2.8
    • 24-70mm f 2.8 - as IS-Lens!
    • 70-200mm f 2.8
    • I do expect a new Super Zoom lens... like the 28-300mm
  • Prime Lenses are rumored to come in late 2019 or early 2020 as well
    • 24 mm f1.2
    • 85mm f 12.
These glimpse of rumors show clearly that Canon is filling up the RF mount with stunning and awesome glass - and I do hope for more consumer grade glass as well...

And therefore: i am happy to have it and to use it in the future....

If you are interested in my full review, please read my full Review of the EOS R
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AF issues with 5Dmk4

I have a friend who upgraded from previously using a 5dmk2 and 5dmk3 in April to the 5dmk4, loves the video focusing and found the sensor a worthwhile upgrade but has been struggling with the AF.

Canon ended up actually replacing the first body with another (af was properly malfunctioning) but with the replacement body, the af is still very inaccurate (although is an improvement on the previous body), with many of the shots seeming to come out soft/misfocused, using the OVF. In every case, the focus point has been directly on someone's eye and the focus seems to be a good few inches to the left and upwards. This was even the case in a newborn session with good consistent light and a completely asleep and still subject.

It seems to be the case for every lens we've tried, afma through the foCal software has helped the Sigma 35mm 1.4, but the tamron 24-70 2.8 g2 is still all over the place, as are the 50mm 1.8 stm and 135mm L.

I tried my 70-200mm f4 IS and 16-35 f4 IS and I consistently have issues with focus too, although these haven't been afma'd.

Live view focusing is excellent, and the lenses all work well on the 2x 6d and the previous 5dmk2/3 cameras. My own lenses (and the sigma) on my Sony a7r3 adapted are excellent.

Has anyone else had similar problems coming from 5dmk2 and mk3 cameras? It's not a case of one bad lens, and this is the first model camera that has given issues with af over a number of years. I would have hoped it was a big improvement but so far the only great thing is the video.

Operating conditions of the Canon “EOS R” and SIGMA’s interchangeable lenses for Canon mount

We would like to announce that, as of this moment SIGMA’s interchangeable lenses for Canon mount in the current lineup do not have any issues with the general operation when they are used on the “EOS R”, released by Canon Inc., via their “Mount Adapter EF-EOS R”.
In addition, please note the information below when using our lenses.
1. With SIGMA’s interchangeable lenses, the Digital Lens Optimizer located within the in-camera Lens Aberration Correction function cannot be used. Therefore, please set the Digital Lens Optimizer to [OFF] before shooting.
When the Digital Lens Optimizer is switched [OFF], but “Peripheral illumination correction”, “Chromatic aberration correction” and “Distortion correction”, located within the in-camera Lens Aberration Correction function is switched [ON], the appropriate corrections can be achieved in accordance with the optical characteristics of each lens. This is applicable to lenses listed below which were released after March, 2018, or those of...

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Notice about compatibility for Canon EOS R with Tamron lenses for Canon mount

We would like to announce that we have clarified compatibility in general operations(*1) of following Tamron Di & Di II lenses on Canon EOS R, which was newly released on October 25, 2018, with Canon Mount Adapter(*2).

Compatible models in general operations(*3)
SP 15-30mm F/2.8 Di VC USD G2 (Model A041) for Canon
SP 24-70mm F/2.8 Di VC USD G2 (Model A032) for Canon
SP 70-200mm F/2.8 Di VC USD G2 (Model A025) for Canon
SP 35mm F/1.8 Di VC USD (Model F012) for Canon
SP 45mm F/1.8 Di VC USD (Model F013) for Canon
SP 85mm F/1.8 Di VC USD (Model F016) for Canon
SP 90mm F/2.8 Di MACRO 1:1 VC USD (Model F017) for Canon
17-35mm F/2.8-4 Di OSD (Model A037) for Canon
70-210mm F/4 Di VC USD (Model A034) for Canon
(*1) Defined to work on existing DSLR cameras
(*2) Canon “Mount Adapter EF-EOS R”
(*3) With the latest version of lens firmware
About other Tamron models, we will make a further announcement of the compatibility at our support web page once the operation tests are completed...

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Canon RF 50mm F1.2L USM

Picked up the RF 50mm 1.2 yesterday. Here are just a few photos I took. Unfortunately it has been raining here. The lens retains all of the beautiful swirl bokeh of the EF 50 1.2 but adds sharpness like I have never seen on any other lens. And without the mirror box, the circles are not clipped. New favorite lens.
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Second 5D Mark IV or a 5DsR

Hello forum members! It's been awhile since I've posted. I'm going to be getting into other areas of photography besides sports, and wanted to see your opinion. I recently took a 5D4 out to shoot sports along with my 1Dx's, and I was blown away by the IQ on the 5D4 vs. the 1Dx. Indoors the IQ wasn't even close. I would like to sell one of my 1Dx's and buy either another 5D4 or a 5DsR. My other question is, does the added DR of the 5D4 outweigh the extra MP of the 5DsR? Thanks in advance!

EOS-R Back Button Focus

Does anybody know how to set Back Button Focus in EOS-R?
It seems that there is no option for "focus and hold" to be assigned to AF-ON or other buttons. The moment I release the AF-ON button and try to re-compose the shot, the camera tries to obtain focus again. Is it normal to keep pushing the AF-ON during recompose? This was not the case with the 5DSR. Am I missing something?

EOS R: GPS

The biggest lack in the EOS R I've seen so far is the lack of a GPS receiver built in in the camera. For "on-the-road" use that's become essential for me over the years.
I understand it would draw even more battery, but it's a price I'd gladly pay, but alas, it's not to be.

So the question here: how well does the link with the phone app canon suggests to use actually work (assuming you use the phone as it is intended and not dedicate it to that task) ? Any practical field experience out there ?

It's to hope one of the upcoming "RF" bodies fixes this (for me) crucial omission.

Let's hope it doesn't become a trend to drop in camera GPS support.

Patent: Canon Image Sensor Stabilization

Sensor stabilization was definitely one of the bigger feature omissions from the Canon EOS R if we go by the feedback we’ve received. Canon has always maintained that in lens stabilization is the best way to go, however, Canon themselves left the door open to the idea that the EOS R system may get sensor stabilization in a future body.
Northlight Images has uncovered a Canon patent showing sensor stabilization.
We think one of the challenges facing image sensor image stabilization from Canon is making it work with lens image stabilization and improving the overall performance.
Japanese patent application [2018-165756 (P2018-165756A)]


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Comparison: 113 Different SD Cards in the Canon EOS R, Which is the fastest?

Camera Memory Speed has completed their exhaustive test of 113 SD cards in the brand new Canon EOS R. The UHS-II performance of the camera is quite good, with the max write speed hitting 182MB/s from the Lexar Professional 2000x UHS-II Rev E 64GB.
The methodology behind the testing:
Write speed is determined using the buffer full condition. This begins when the buffer has reached capacity and the camera is unable to sustain the full continuous frame rate. In this condition shooting is limited to the rate at which the buffer is emptied. During the buffer full condition the total data written is known in addition to the time between shots. This method eliminates the need to use the card access light. Because the...

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HERE IS A CANON PATENT FOR IN BODY IMAGE STABILISATION (IBIS)

https://www.canonwatch.com/here-is-a-canon-patent-for-in-body-image-stabilisation-ibis/

Japanese site Hi Lows Note spotted the patent of the year.
Canon patent application in Japan 2018-165756 describes an IBIS (In Body Image Stabilisation) system.
The lack of IBIS was one of the criticism Canon had to face after the launch of the Canon EOS R. There have been various statements by Canon execs about how much better image stabilisation in lens is working. However, no one ever excluded the possibility Canon might feature IBIS on future cameras. At least now we know there is a Canon patent application for it. Interesting note: the picture on top is depicting a DSLR and not a mirrorless camera.
Machine translated excerpt from the patent literature:
The imaging device of the present invention is provided with an image sensor, the frame which supports the aforementioned image sensor, and the driving member which moves the aforementioned frame in the direction parallel to the imaging surface of the aforementioned image sensor, and the aforementioned vibrating member, It has a vibration portion which vibration occurs, it sees from the direction which intersects perpendicularly to the imaging surface of the aforementioned image sensor, and the vibration portion of at least one driving member overlaps the center of the imaging surface of the aforementioned image sensor.​

Will Canon make a tilt-shift adapter for all EF lenses for the Canon R?

There was this article in 2015 about such an adapter that was patented by Canon:
http://www.photographybay.com/2015/...-shift-adapter-that-works-with-every-ef-lens/

It summed things by saying that this was likely only going to work with EOS M for various reasons that included the shorter flange distance from the lens to the sensor. Well now we have the R system, does that mean Canon could make a tilt-shift adapter for the new R system? I'm not an engineer, but would like to see this become available and hopefully others do too.

Also, I'd like to see an IS adapter for non IS EF lenses. Why not? If Canon doesn't want IBIS and says Lens IS is superior, why not make an adapter that can add IS. Again, I'm not an engineer and this may sound like a stupid idea for those that know why this won't work, but I think it would be good to have. I personally believe canon is not providing IBIS simply to keep lens prices high to make more profit. IBIS would likely reduce sales of IS lenses.

Some first thoughts and examples from the 5D4

So after years of 5D , 5D2 and 5D3 useage finally pulled the trigger on the 5D4 and have been out and about testing it before the next wedding where it will get a proper workout !

First thoughts , definitely seems to be a better performer in terms of image quality and plenty more detail hiding in the raw files to be messed around with. Silent shutter is not so silent and maybe even slightly louder than the 5D3 but still not bad. Ergonomically feels no different and the layout is almost identical to the 5d3 apart from another couple of programmable buttons to use which is good. Touch screen hasn't come in to its own yet but is much easier for fast zooming during playback. Wireless control via the Canon connect app is good and have a few dark weddings coming up where that will be most useful.

Word of caution - the first 5Dmk4 i was delivered was faulty and was corrupting files , no such issues with this one so far but this is the first time any of my many 5D cameras have had a problem in over a decade.

Anyhow a couple of images to be going on with

Canon 5Dmk4 ISO100 , F4, 1/400sec , 16-35 F4IS @ 16mm

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Wedding Photographer North East & North Yorkshire Northumberland & Wedding Photographer Cumbria
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EOS R and EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM -lens

Hi, I tested my Canon 100mm macro lens on the new R with the basic adapter, and it seems the IS is running constantly on the lens. I did not notice the same with my other lenses with IS - normal behaviour is that the IS runs when I autofocus etc. Only way to stop the IS is to turn the lens switch to manual focus STABILIZER OFF or turn of the live view in the camera.

Anyone else have similar experiences? Any idea what could cause this behaviour?

Thanks,

Edit: mentioned the wrong lens switch, corrected

Industry News: Leica Camera Debuts the Leica M10-D

The Camera with a Digital Heart and an Analog Soul
October 24, 2018 – Leica Camera transports the analog experience into the world of digital photography with the introduction of the Leica M10-D. The Leica M10-D combines the benefits of a digital M camera with an unprecedented approach to rediscovering the magic of an analog photographic experience, now augmented with mobile connectivity.

The ultimate experiential camera, the Leica M10-D is inspired by the discreet M10-P. In addition to incorporating the M10-P’s signature near-silent mechanical shutter and classic script logo branding on the top plate, the Leica M10-D’s monitor screen has been purposefully omitted from the camera body, freeing photographers from all distractions and allowing them to always focus on capturing the moment, rather than the camera itself. In lieu of the screen on the back of the camera is a new control ring for switching the camera on and off, with a dedicated hardware setting for activating Wi-Fi – a...

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Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS to come before EF version [CR2]

We’ve mentioned previously that an RF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS will be coming sometime in 2019 for the Canon EOS R system. We’ve also been told that an EF version of such a lens is also in the works.
We’re now told that the RF version of the 24-70mm f/2.8L IS will come ahead of an EF version. Though the source did say that it’s possible the EF version never comes, it may come down to how well the EOS R system cameras are received in 2018 and 2019. We do expect to see an entry-level EOS R camera, as well as a “pro” body.
The EF lens lineup is going to take a backseat to the RF line for the foreseeable future.

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  • Poll Poll
85mm: Which one to buy used now to hold value for resale when RF comes out?

Which EF-mount 85mm will have the best resale value in 16-24 months?

  • Canon 85mm f1.2L II

  • Canon 85mm f1.4L IS USM

  • Sigma 85mm f1.4 EX DG HSM (Non-Art)

  • Something Else

  • Don't Buy an 85mm, You've Got the 50mm 1.2 and 24-70 2.0 Coming


Results are only viewable after voting.

I'm a new EOS R owner and loving the camera so far. I'm finding myself craving an 85mm lens for it already and since I'm new to Canon, I don't have a lens portfolio to choose from. I have the Canon adapter so I can use EF lenses no problem, but I don't want to do so long-term knowing there's likely an RF 85mm in the pipeline before too long.

I'm debating the following:
  • Do I purchase a used 85mm f1.2 locally from a Craiglist seller for around $1k and use it until the RF version comes out sometime in 2019 or 2020?
  • Or do I buy a new specimen of the 85mm f1.4 IS and take the depreciation hit selling that when I inevitably get the RF version? I haven't seen any used samples of this lens floating around at enough of a discount to make it make sense...even on eBay they're going for around $1400.
  • Or do I get a used version of the Sigma 85mm f1.4 EX DG HSM (non-Art series) for around $650?
  • Or are there other options I should be looking at?
Thanks!

To IBIS or Not To IBIS

A lot of ML cameras incorporate IBIS. I can see the advantage to this - build IS into the body and you don't have to build it into the lens.

Overall, from the little I have read both in lens and in body IS work well - not sure if one has an advantage over the other. if there is an advantage, I don't think it will be large (at least based on my reading thus far).

Given the number of lens with IS I am not surprised that Canon opted not to have IBIS. And Nikon with VR in a wide variety of their lens, did opt to build IBIS into the Z6 and Z7.

Thoughts?

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