Canon’s next round of announcements will likely be for more Cinema EOS gear, and I expect a lot of RF mount cinema lenses in the near future.
We do know that there are going to be RF mount versions of the Sumire line, as well as new compact cinema zoom lenses, and this could potentially be one of them.
Canon 16-55mm T2.9 Compact Zoom

Focal length: 16.50mm 27.55mm 53.81mm
F number: 2.90 2.90 2.90
Half angle of view: 42.26° 25.94° 13.98°
Image height: 14.00mm 14.00mm 14.00mm
Lens total length: 103.55mm 109.78mm 129.89mm
BF: 14.18mm 12.29mm 10.01mm

The image for this post is the Canon CN-E 70-200mm T4.4 Compact-Servo Cine Zoom

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Really hoping with the R5C coming out and the firmware upgrade for the c70, that Canon rightfully gives the R3 some of these new features light Canon Raw Light in the HQ, MQ and LQ modes along with the ability to use shutter angle versus shutter speed. The R3 is priced higher then both the C70 and R5C so logically it deserves the same or more otherwise seriously wtf Canon are you saying to your market, pay more get less? Once again Canon is showing it cares very little to their consumer. Give us proper cinema tools in our cameras please

I wonder if someone can give advise on a lens decision for my M6II.
I use the M6II mostly on short trips (cities) or when hiking (hills, mountains, rivers). Besides the obvious subjects, I also do portraits and close ups of flowers on those occasions.
I do have the EF-M 22 and the EF 50/1.8. I would like to change the 50mm to either 32mm or 40mm.
The main reason I would like to give away the 50mm is, that it is too close for me in cities. And it is more bulky than the other 2 lenses - just a little, but space is limited in my bag.
Did anyone use the 32mm and the 40mm and can give some advise on it?

I have finally dug out my old Sony 8mm camcorder and a bunch of tapes of Peru and Machu Pichu done in 1988. They haven't been played in 30 years and seem to be decent for the time and my two youngest are in the footage as well as other family so now I'd really like to get them in digital form (without spending too much at least until I've assessed exactly what is actually worthy).

So, can it work for me to just set my R5 on a tripod in front of the 4K TV and record in HD? If so are there any things to try to do that would be helpfull? I wondered if I recorded in 1080/60 if that would improve the hand held shakiness aspect somewhat.

After getting both the RF extenders to use with my RF 100-500L, I became curious about whether they would perform better than my EF MkIII extenders when used with my EF 600/4L IS II on my EOS R3. As most will know, the protruding elements of the RF extenders do not fit into the Canon EF-RF mount adapters, even the drop-in filter version that has a much wider opening. I purchased a Commlite EF-RF adapter (which has a wider opening than the other 3rd party adapters or the OEM versions), and modified it with a Dremel until the opening was sufficiently wide to accept the TCs.

The resolution charts on The Digital Picture allow comparison of the EF TCs on the EF 600/4 III with the RF TCs on the RF 600/4, but they are done with two different bodies, and that complicates interpretation. With the modified adapter in hand, I had the ability to test both sets of adapters with the same lens. Of course, being able to mount the EF TCs in front of the adapter and the RF TCs behind the adapter gave me the opportunity to test the various combinations of stacked TCs as well, which I did.

I did two sets of tests with all 8 possible combinations of TCs and the bare lens, all at the lens' maximum aperture:

• EF 2xIII + RF 2x + EF 600/4 II = 2400mm f/16
• EF 2xIII + RF 1.4x + EF 600/4 II = 1680mm f/11
• EF 1.4xIII + RF 2x + EF 600/4 II = 1680mm f/11
• EF 1.4xIII + RF 1.4x + EF 600/4 II = 1200mm f/8
• RF 2xIII + EF 600/4 II = 1200mm f/8
• EF 2xIII + EF 600/4 II = 1200mm f/8
• RF 1.4xIII + EF 600/4 II = 840mm f/5.6
• EF 1.4xIII + EF 600/4 II = 840mm f/5.6
• EF 600/4 II = 600mm f/4

For both sets of tests, I used the same enhanced ISO 12233 charts than Bryan uses for the TDP tests, which test resolutions up to 4000 lw/ph. The first set of tests was performed in the same way the TDP tests are done, by changing the distance from the camera to the subject such that the 3:2 region of the chart fills the frame. Note that for the 1.4x and bare lens shots, I needed to switch to a larger chart because the smaller one was closer than the MFD – that resulted in a change in the lighting but the charts themselves are printed such that the resolutions shown are independent of chart size.

Below are the first set of results. I cropped larger regions than Bryan does (about double the size). The image below is scaled down for upload here, the full size version that shows 1:1 crops can be viewed HERE.



The second set of tests were a more 'real world' approach similar to that used here by @AlanF to test lenses and extenders. For those tests, the distance was kept constant, which is more relevant for something like bird photography where you can only get so close to the subject and must rely on extenders and/or cropping. For these tests, the distance was ~10 m / 33', which was the distance needed to fully frame the smallest test chart (~150 x 100mm). The image below is scaled down for upload here, the full size version that shows 1:1 crops can be viewed HERE.



As expected, stacking two extenders results in a loss of sharpness. However, the 4x magnification increase with the stacked 2x TCs results in about 3x the resolving power of the bare lens. It will be interesting to see how that translates into real-world subjects that benefit from higher magnification, the moon for example.

Looking at comparisons more relevant for everyday use, the EF and RF 1.4x TCs deliver very similar performance. The EF version appears very slightly sharper in the center, the edges are equivalent. There is a noticeable difference between the EF and RF 2x TCs on the EF 600/4 II, with the EF 2xIII delivering sharper results in the center and periphery. The RF 2x actually performs pretty much identically to the two 1.4x TCs stacked (which yields the same final 2x magnification as the 2x TC). Also, though it's not evident from the crops, the RF 2x introduces a noticeable level of barrel distortion that the EF 2x does not. I wonder if that's in keeping with Canon's other RF lenses that leave substantial barrel distortion in the optical design in favor of digital correction (note that I would not consider the RF 2x to have substantial distortion, but it is evident).

For my personal use, I'll stick with the EF TCs when using the EF 600/4 II on my R3, possibly with the RF 2x added behind the EF 2x when I want the maximum focal length I can achieve.

Hell everyone,

Was hoping you could help answer some general lens questions that I have. To start, what justifies the price different between two lenses with the same focal length?

E.G Canon RF 50MM F 1.2 USM ($2299.00) vs Canon RF 50MM F 1.8 STM ($200.00). There is a massive price difference here (and size difference) but both are RF lenses. Where is the extra $2k coming from? Same example with the 24-105mm in USM and STM and the 85mm USM and STM. Each have massive price differences.

Second question is, what is a Macro lens? I understand the functionality of the Macro lens, but can it be used for both super close photos and also regular photography? Could I use an 85mm Macro lens for close up photography and portraits? Or does it have one function? And how do you know it’s a macro lens? Is it simply the macro designation that defines it? I see 85mm macro and 85mm USM DF without a macro designation. What makes one a macro over the other?

Thanks so much in advance. I understand these are basic questions but I’m finally trying to get down to basics and understand what differentiates one lens from another.

Was there ever a consensus about if you it's worth upgrading to firmware v1.5.0 on a R6?

This thread is just an FYI for R3 users.

I discovered that the Shutter Count app (available for MacOS) counts the R3’s electronic shutter “actuations/release cycles”. I’ve not used the mechanical shutter once on the camera, but I’ve taken approximately 7,200 Electronic Shutter images. The Shutter Count app reports the shutter count as less than or equal to (<) 8,000.

Interestingly, the R3 itself doesn’t show Electronic Shutter actuations. Going into the R3’s menu (wrench icon, tab 5) and to “System Status Display”, the shutter actuations are shown on my camera as less than or equal to (<) 1,000. This is consistent with my non-use of the mechanical shutter, as actuations are only shown in 1,000-shot increments. In other words, I believe the R3, through its own menu and logging system, is only showing mechanical shutter actuations/release cycles.

This is interesting for two reasons:

1. It shows that Canon’s software is actually recording BOTH Electronic Shutter and Mechanical Shutter actuations, even though you, as the user, are really only meant to know the Mechanical Shutter actuation number (in 1,000-shot increments).

2. Don’t go by Shutter Count’s actuation estimate when reselling the camera and a prospective buyer asks about the camera’s shutter count.


I also found a post on DPReview where an owner of two R5’s encountered this issue while using the Shutter Count app. One of his R5’s was showing both his Electronic Shutter and Mechanical Shutter usage combined, and the other R5 was solely showing his Mechanical Shutter usage.

This individual wrote to the developers of Shutter Count, and the developers responded with the following:

"Unfortunately we can't correct what Canon screwed up. Also, corrupted counters will stay this way even if Canon fixes the bug (which seems to be done in firmware 1.4.0), and future actuations are tracked properly. Please note that if you haven't used the fully electronic shutter, then the counter you get will naturally represent the mechanical one."

You can see the thread here:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4616410#forum-post-65717905

I checked my R5, as well, having read the above thread. The Shutter Count app reported my Mechanical Shutter usage accurately (< 3,000); I know it’s accurate because I’ve taken tens of thousands of Electronic Shutter images with my R5, and relatively few Mechanical Shutter images.

Curiously, the R5 does not have the “System Display Status” menu that the R3 has. The only shutter count available through the camera is within the Battery Status menu, and that only shows how many shots have been taken since the last full battery charge.

From what I’ve found online, the “System Display Status” menu is reserved for Pro Bodies; the 1DX, 1DX Mark II, and 1DX Mark III all have the “System Display Status”, too. According to the 1DX and R3 manuals, the “System Display Status” menu’s purpose is to check the camera’s serial number, firmware version, shutter release cycles, and the Error and Caution Log:

https://cam.start.canon/en/C010/manual/html/UG-07_Set-up_0350.html


It’s possible that the same bug in the R5’s firmware (as reported/alleged by the developers of Shutter Count) is present in the R3’s firmware. It’s also possible that Shutter Count has not been updated to properly register the R3 yet, and its current way of reading the shutter count is to combine both Mechanical and Electronic Shutter actuations. Regardless, I thought this information was interesting and decided to pass it along.

Hi Everyone
Just joined, first post….
Been a canon user since 1992
Went dormant for 10-15yrs
Then a work colleague heavily into URBEX kick started my interest….

A few months ago I decided to buy a few canon M cameras
(Used) M50 & M100
Picked up several of the M lenses (again used)
My normal cameras are a mixture or 5diii, 6d/6dii
80d, 7dii etc etc
Whilst I welcome the much smaller package and superb optics ( M32mm 1.4)
I cannot believe they omitted a standard cable release WTF!!
Yes yes, the BR-E1 but geez, another gadget that takes super common button batteries that are easy to source on a whim - not!!
I’m so disappointed that canon are forcing their long term loyal customers to depend on Bluetooth simply as a way to trip the shutter remotely.
Ridiculous, to the extent I probably won’t be going the R route. My unfashionable flappers maybe old hat in todays world but as a tool for taking stills it seems the modern mirrorless has much to learn.
If I may, I love the flash on the M100 that allows it to be tilted back for bounce….why oh why can’t canon use this on R series??
it would again avoid the need to ensure the separate flash in the bag, the batteries were ok, extra batteries just in case…..
My god, what a palava when all I wanted was a catchlight, fill flash etc etc.
I’m starting to see now why so many walked away.
The DSLR’s were and are superb
But the crippled mirrorless series are beyond a joke.

It seems that Canon has quite a backlog in serving the EOS R3 to the European market. I think it would be good if we can post information across Europe about deliveries (or lack of it), to understand if/when deliveries are starting to happen.

I'll start out with Denmark: the two pro dealers got a single camera each for the pre-orders on release day (2021-11-26). I just called the dealer where I preordered, and they told me that they have received neither further cameras nor information about when they will get any

Hello, after the last software update 1.5, I noticed that you can no longer configure the viewfinder to be switched off for 3 minutes or unlimited. The problem also exists with the 1.4 software. But I still didn't notice it. is there anyone who is on the software version 1.3.1 can check if it still works there. For me, the viewfinder shuts down after 10 seconds. This is very annoying because it wastes valuable time. Please also report it to Canon Service! So that they get more pressure to fix it in Japan. Thank you!

greetings Frank

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Greetings, I have the ImageGraph Pro 300 and some Canon FA SM1 A3 Fine Art Paper 310 g/m as a wee treat to myself to start getting images directly out from my Nikon Z9 to my wall without the fuss of sending them off.

In Capture One the default is to give me a A3 300 DPI 16bit TIFF file which I send to Canon's Professional Print & Layout application and then it wants a rather generous margin before printing. The quality looks rather great though not as rich and in your face as the sample pack of glossy (which is to be expected). My question then is are these the right settings for this paper? Do I need more DPI for the fine art paper?

Nikon announced an 400mm 2.8 lens with an built in teleconverter. 560mm at f4.
Under 3kg.

Would be an nobrainer for wildlife if made by Canon.
Proud pricing. But an welcome fast lens.

Hey everyone,

I am fairly new to photography and videography and plan to invest in my first proper camera. I have wanted the R5 since it came out but was always concerned with overheating issues. My goal is to get into photography as a side gig for real estate and just personal photos from my road trips. And then also to get into video as part of my drone company for capturing interior real estate shots and maybe eventually more, but for now real estate mainly.

As a 2022 side hobby, I’d also like to do some handheld Vlogging and posting to YouTube. Of the R5 and R5C, which would be my best option? I had pre-ordered the R5C this morning but then cancelled when I realized it has lack of IBIS. This is a concern for me as I don’t own a gimbal and don’t intent on getting one just yet..

Should I re-order? Or go with the R5? Wanted some objective views from the professionals here!

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This is not good. There's obviously another factory where stuff is produced?

Since upgrading the firmware on five of my 5D IV bodies it's impossible to get a crisp tack focus image. It doesn't matter if it's on autofocus or manual.
Best I can get is around 80%. It's worse on my 70-200mm lenses than 50mm.
Anything far away is completely unusable now....
Has anyone else experienced this? I feel like it's semi blurry just looking through the viewfinder.
I didn't experience any of this prior to upgrading.
Has anyone else upgraded to the last couple of firmware's and had focus issues?

Hello guys and girls, so I have had my R6 for 1 year now and it is just 2 months after the warranty expired, I haven't used this camera much but the last time I used this on last October 2021, that time I took some pictures with EF 70-200 F.2.8 and RF 24-105 F4 and they are perfectly sharp, yesterday was my birthday so I took out my camera again and clicked a couple of pictures, with live view and zoomed 10x for focus I didn't see any issue, but when I click and take pictures, the output is so bad, I am not sure it's the focus or something else, the images are not sharp at all, it's like I took the pictures with an old smartphone. last year I took some pictures on my birthday, same place, same setup and the images tack sharp, I am so upset with this so hopefully, somebody can help me out? Thanks a lot in advance.

PS: I know I should post some pictures but to make sure I will take some new images with daylight so I don't have to raise the iso even though the iso capability is high with this camera.

Well here we go again. I had high hopes that with the R3 Canon would have addressed the freezing up issue that affects the R5. I found out yesterday I was wrong. I was shooting a youth basketball game (grandson) when multiple times the R3 froze up. It was more severe than anything I've experienced with the R5. The rear screen totally froze and the on-off switch became non-functional. I had to remove the battery to reset it and unfortunately, unlike when this happens with the R5 it kept repeating the problem.

When I got home I did a quick internet search and found another user on a Canon forum with the same problem. He sent the body in to Canon, they reset the firmware and sent it back. The same thing happened again to him.

Fortunately, this was just a recreational shoot for me. I'll be very upset if it happens during a "real" ballgame.

I was using a Transcend 256gb card. I am going to try using a SanDisk card and see if that helps.

Starting this thread so that when (not if) others experience this, they can share their information.

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Hi everyone. I recently purchased a Canon R3, and jumped into the mirrorless world with two feet and an open mind. My former camera was a Canon 1Dx, and it's still going strong — after 10-years of use — with great results and awesome reliability. Sadly, however, my newly purchased Canon R3 is causing me some major heart palpitations and confidence worries, and I'm hoping (praying) that my experiences are related to my not yet knowing much about the R3's mirrorless settings or its operation. Yet, I suspect something more technical beyond my settings may be at hand, so thus my outreach.

Question for R3 users, are you experiencing (any) major focusing issues?

I'm experiencing at least five (5) unique issues:

For example:

1) When using "single point", "one shot" focus on a stationary subject (very basic stuff), my camera will (sometimes) not focus at all. It's almost like it locks up (i.e., it won't even hunt), but I can sense that it's trying to work (i.e., the focus box will light up red), but it just doesn't work. All I see is a blurry screen. Shutter button will not work. Then, as-if almost randomly and without my understanding, it will suddenly focus and the shot will be captured. I've tried changing various settings like my "shutter mode" from "electronic" to "mechanical" to see if that might be something behind it, but I'm getting the issue it in both cases. Again, I'm completely new to mirrorless technology, so perhaps it's a setting/mode function restriction I don't yet know about? When I handed the camera to my wife, she experienced the same thing.

2) When focusing on nearby subjects (but still respecting the minimum focusing distances of my lenses) my camera will again (sometimes) not focus on the subject, but this time, however, it will at least continuously "hunt" back-and-forth trying to focus, and the shutter will depress and capture a blurry image. Yet, in such cases it will often never achieve the focus. So, I power off my camera, and restart. That unacceptable solution has sometimes worked out, but clearly that's not a tenable response. I've experienced this with my Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L lens (using the RF attachment ring) and the only RF lens I also recently purchased (the 50mm f/1.2L).

3) When more than one subject is in the scene, and layered, my camera really (noticeably) struggles to focus on a foreground subject, but is perfectly ok with focusing on the background (or distant) subject. This experience is really annoying, and it's seriously eroding my confidence in using this camera. I often cannot get it to focus on the foreground subject despite moving my focusing point over the foreground object. On a combination of issues 2 and 3, I randomly noticed that Tony & Chelsea Northrup were also observing some of this, but they observed these things using other R3 settings and other subject dynamics I have yet to try. You can see their review here. At different points in their review, you can hear them clearly say that they were: “missing focus on a lot of the closer shots”; “Tracking focus is exponentially harder the closer the subject gets to the camera”; "At close range, the autofocus wandered a lot even when it was locked on […] it just hunted in and out”. In my experience, I would most certainly agree, but my issues appear worse because (sometimes) I literally couldn't shoot the image despite pushing the shutter button.

4) Sometimes, my focusing point will not move, despite my trying to reposition it. It just sits wherever it may be on the screen. Again, almost as-if it locks up.

5) When focusing with "eye control", which does somewhat work for me, I cannot get the camera to focus on the left side of the screen with my eye, despite several calibration attempts under different lighting conditions. It will only work top, bottom, and right. A second issue is that the focus won't "stay" where my eye is looking. Obviously, hard to explain in a forum, but while I'm clearly looking at a fixed point (almost stubbornly with intense concentration) I can notice the focusing box awkwardly drifting in a slow straight line to the right of the screen. Almost like a mouse button randomly locking up on you and it drifting off in a straight line to the corner of a monitor.

Final points: While my time and experience in using the Canon R3 is limited, I have had some wonderful experiences too. Like when I was able to photograph my newborn son sleeping without disturbing him. I was able to accomplish this by using the "silent shutter" mode and the tilt screen angled high above my head with subject tracking on in a very low ambient light situation under high ISO values. That whole situation and combination of features just worked out awesomely in a way my 1Dx never could, and it was honestly borderline ridiculous how my low light shot held from a distance above my head turned out tack sharp with no discernable noise. But clearly the other focusing problems I'm having are a no-go.

Altogether, I really, really want this to work out, and give the future of mirrorless cameras a chance. Yet, I must confess, a large part of me is wondering if I made a mistake by not going with the 1Dx Mark III. One last point before I close this long message, the AD-E1 adapter is absolutely necessary, and I was livid when I read Canon said it was an "optional" accessory. Careful: The official discourse on this is not consistent, and this situation only came to my attention when I couldn't get any of my numerous Canon flashes to fire on my R3, then looked at the manual to find out why. The shoe fits, but the flashes will either not fire at all, or if they do, they will fire with a full 1/1 power dump. The manual I read clearly noted this, so there is nothing optional about that AD-E1 block if you plan to use a Canon 600 EX-RT flash, and at the very least, after spending nearly $8000 on a camera, Canon should have just automatically included it in the box. That, in my mind was a clear design flaw and a massive customer oversight, but perhaps Canon really does think it's an option because (rumor) they are working on a flash that powers off the R3's battery, but good luck with that too because this thing is voracious on batteries next to my 1Dx experience. I get about 415 pictures over a full charge. I've already ordered extra batteries. Cheers, Jeff

---Opps, rookie mistake, I originally posted my first-hand experience here, when I should have posted it elsewhere in the forum. My apologies. You can find my preliminary experiences and (first post) question to other Canon R3 users under the forum heading, "EOS R Series Camera Discussion RP, R, R5, R6"---