DPReview: Canon EOS R5 and R6 overheating claims tested: cameras work as promised – but that’s not enough

[PGSanta]

its because he has no life and takes pics of cats, so this is the highlight of his day, and i am the one that had the camera over heat from stills, it is not mine, it is my friends who works at a camera store and he is returning the camera we were not testing it but just using a 4000 dollar paper weight that might i add has incedible tracking and terrible battery life. reading all this bitching is disgusting. the r5 is a let down of epic proportions and if people decide to waste their life owning a unreliable camera and trying to tell us all how their r5 is great i say let them sound like republicans and democrats. i used a camera to see if i was ready to switch to canon mirror-less and canon made that decision real easy, they have great dslrs and pretty good cinema bodies but their mirrorless is not sony or panasonic. there is no point trying to talk to these tribal tyrants who really know nothing of actual professional photography or cinematography, i have shot most all camera companies for photo and film, i produced a documentary on netflix, i do grip and light work for movies and music videos and a few ads, i shoot wedding videos at times and the list goes on and this work i do gives me a different perspective and knowledge of different cameras for different jobs and this r5 in its current state might be good to be used only in subzero temperatures. next to none of these people do anything outside of their 9-5 and bitching so let them bitch and take pride in knowing you are objective.
peace

LOL.

 

[privatebydesign]

Nice sidestep. The question wasn't about capabilities but claims.

Canon claimed uncompromising performance. However there are many practical compromises.

I don't shoot video so it doesn't matter to me practically. But I don't like seeing people sticking up for a lying corporation.

Did you read the title of the thread before posting that ridiculous reply?

”DPReview: Canon EOS R5 and R6 overheating claims tested: cameras work as promised – but that’s not enough”

The claims were proven to be as promised.....

Check my posting history, I don’t stick up for lying anythings, I also think this whole ‘doesn’t meet expectations‘ thing is pathetic. The camera is a quantum leap improvement over the 5D IV, costs less in real terms and is being crucified. Complete cancel culture bullshit. Find something serious to get this annoyed and upset about there are several current crisis that spring to mind.

 

[Ozarker]

 

[nighthawk82]

Who the hell wants to carry around multiple bodies for video during a wedding or for anything. Who wants to keep switching mods WORRYING about over heating. You want to work without worrying at all. No one wants added stress to their life.

Nobody wants to carry around multiple bodies for video during a wedding. Hence, wedding videographers will take something else. There are hundreds of thousands of people who would just like amazing stills performance and the ability to record a 10 minute clip, or many small 30 second clips, for which the R5 will do an absolutely amazing job. If you were waiting for the R5 just to record a wedding video in 8K, you're going to have to look elsewhere. AFAIK no other stills oriented camera can do it yet, maybe Sony will do it soon then you can go there in peace (assuming it doesn't overheat haha!).

For the rest of the world, the R5 is perfectly fine.

 

[peters]

Philip Bloom has already done a torture test for overheating on the A7s III, and it is the best performer by a mile available today.
You've mistaken the two cameras.
The Sony when it does overheat can be reused in minutes, the Canon takes hours.

given this video, the Sony overheated faster.
Even if not: there may be ONE DSLM that beats the canon - but still its an incredible great performance up to this moment.
Thats true, but its also worth noting: The Canon can be used IMMEDIATLY in a 4k30 mode, even after a complete overheat. I tested this myself, there is NO cooldown necessary. 4k30 works always, and it does look great. So you can always shoot and rely on the Canon, which is in my professional experience super important.

 

[Drakester1791]

My astrophotography camera has a peltier cooler which brings the camera to 30 degrees below ambient temp to be able to take long (5+ min) exposures, and the shots are much cleaner noise-wise at -20 than they are at 0 degrees, which has got me thinking...

Will the shots from the R5/R6 ( or ANY other camera to be fair) get noisier as they heat up towards the critical shut down temp?

 

[peters]

No Canon was not transparent that everything you do on the camera would reduce recording time, from switching it on, to playing back videos, to shooting stills or even flipping through menus. Everything reduces the available recording time.
Canon was not clear that cool down times could be anywhere from 2 hours to 6 hours. Please, I can’t understand why anyone that coughed up the $4200 (with tax) for this body would be ok with this highly unpredictable behavior?

Okay, that first part may be true.
So far my R5 got no kind of highly unpredicatable behavior and these 6 hours cool down time is simply wrong.
And do not forget: even after a complete overheat, you can switch IMMEDIATLY to 4k30 (which looks great btw). There is NO cooldown time needed at all.

Anyway, it is the best performing MILC at the market (Maybe(!) the A7S III beats it, which is a super specialized tool for video only, given the low MP count).
I just dont get it. Even if it had only the (never overheating) 4k30 mode - it would still be a beast of camera.

 

[Quarkcharmed]

Sooo... With the R5, will I be able to go out and shoot landscapes? Or at sunrise it'll stop working as soon as the first sunray touches the camera body?
Just checking if I have to cancel my preorder.

 

[freejay]

So it records for the times canon states. I don't have an 8k tv who does? The size of the files is also a bit big for me. The price of a huge cfexpress card...

I think I would like to see a serious unbiased review for stills now.

Watch Gordon Laing's photography review:

 

[Chris.Chapterten]

Okay, that first part may be true.
So far my R5 got no kind of highly unpredicatable behavior and these 6 hours cool down time is simply wrong.
And do not forget: even after a complete overheat, you can switch IMMEDIATLY to 4k30 (which looks great btw). There is NO cooldown time needed at all.

Anyway, it is the best performing MILC at the market (Maybe(!) the A7S III beats it, which is a super specialized tool for video only, given the low MP count).
I just dont get it. Even if it had only the (never overheating) 4k30 mode - it would still be a beast of camera.

Very true. I'm interested to see the quality of the crop 4k 30 that doesn't overheat. Might be my go to mode when I get the R5

 

[SecureGSM]

Finally a photography review !!! so sick of the temperature reviews. The internet has gotten mad... The only thing that people seem to care about when it comes to cameras since a month is the temperature of the body..

A temperature review is a new black.. the old black was shooting some 6 stops under and lifting shadows in post by 6 stops to spot a sign of banding...

 

[navastronia]

My astrophotography camera has a peltier cooler which brings the camera to 30 degrees below ambient temp to be able to take long (5+ min) exposures, and the shots are much cleaner noise-wise at -20 than they are at 0 degrees, which has got me thinking...

Will the shots from the R5/R6 ( or ANY other camera to be fair) get noisier as they heat up towards the critical shut down temp?

Answer seems to be "yes" according to page 284 in the R5 manual.

 

[SecureGSM]

All the Canon faithful freaking out when the R5 is rightly criticized . . . Guys, the camera overheats when shooting stills, too. All actions people take with the camera (reviewing pics, video, using the Live View screen) apparently contribute to heat, which eventually leads to shutdowns. Even with stills alone, I wouldn’t shoot a wedding with a single R5 body, because what if it overheats at a critical moment? Ironic that the first Canon mirrorless with dual card slots STILL can’t be trusted solo.

Does that happen with the 5D mk. IV? No? Well, then the R5 isn’t an ideal replacement. Hence: this post.

++++ Guys, the camera overheats when shooting stills, too.

A.M.: a genuine question: are there any other reports of R5 overheating shooting stills apart from one reported by NorskHest@CR and another person@FM?

I also recall reading on two encounters of camera freezing / locking up shooting stills and required battery pulled out to restart. Digigal, reported on multiple encounters and tiggy@mac once?

 

[SecureGSM]

I anxiously await the 50% price drop as sales plummet and the used market is saturated by dissatisfied buyers who are angry about the overheating problem.

Any wagers on when that will be?

yeah you've gotta wait until the 01 of April 2021 to hear that news.... it's a friendly joke..

 

[Quarkcharmed]

I also recall reading on two encounters of camera freezing shooting stills and required battery pulled out to restart. Digigal, reported on multiple encounters and tiggy@mac once?

That looks more like a software/system crash, not overheating.

 

[Pierre Lagarde]

Hi everybody, I'm new to this forum and just wanted to ask some questions and participate.
I'll just adapt what I posted on another site, sorry if I look lazy.
I must say there is at least one thing I don't understand in the DPReview article (though, I admit I'm far from being a video specialist). It's this part :

"
For instance, Sony says the a7 III will shoot around 29 minutes of 4K video with the temperature warnings set to ‘Std,’ while the Fujifilm X-T4 promises 30 minutes of 4K/30 and 20 minutes of 4K/60."

and a bit further...

"The fact that the EOS R5 can shoot two hours of 4K/30p footage (in line-skipping mode) when sitting in direct sunshine suggests it’s pretty good at dissipating heat."

So if it's right, it should mean R5 is able to shoot 4 times more video 4K/30p than A7III or XT-4, even in direct sunlight... is it that bad ?

And if I'm right, The R5 seems to be able to shoot in modes no other MILC is able to shoot to date.

I understand the time for having it back to normal temperature in certain conditions of usage can be a problem to some, but still, it seems we can tell, by reading tests from here and there, that this camera is outdoing what any other MILC can do today. Why concentrate then on what it supposedly can't do ? And especially when it is proven that the manufacturer clearly communicated about the camera's limitation and that this communication is recognised as true.

To my sense, it's kind of like saying Sony A9II can't do big enough prints because of pixel limitation, while most serious users report that it's a terrific camera, even for it's quite high price.

 

[TMHKR]

I dont know why wedding photographers feel they need spray 8k over whole event. cant they just use line skip 4k for boring moments and 8k for important moments

Because the wedding photographers are usually an insufferable bunch. I know, I've worked for one. That perfectionist psycho was NEVER satisfied, even if you made AAA-class shots

 

[SecureGSM]

No Canon was not transparent that everything you do on the camera would reduce recording time, from switching it on, to playing back videos, to shooting stills or even flipping through menus. Everything reduces the available recording time.
Canon was not clear that cool down times could be anywhere from 2 hours to 6 hours. Please, I can’t understand why anyone that coughed up the $4200 (with tax) for this body would be ok with this highly unpredictable behavior?

up to 6 hours cool down? righto.. something new again... just how credible is this number one would thought?

a kettle with about 1L of water in it heated to 100C would take about 30 min to cool down at room temperature conditions. unless R5 is a double walled water flask or something..

 

[vangelismm]

And do not forget: even after a complete overheat, you can switch IMMEDIATLY to 4k30 (which looks great btw). There is NO cooldown time needed at all.

This is important, i was thinking that the camera would be completely non operational while cooldown.

 

[Quarkcharmed]

Hi everybody, I'm new to this forum and just wanted to ask some questions and participate.

Welcome! But note you're a bit late to the party. We've been trying to figure it all out for about a month already and have had no luck yet.