5D Mark III & 7D Mark II Within a Month! [CR0]

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<p><strong>Two DPR Rumors in one Week!

</strong>[<a href="http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2011/04/dealer-rumors-canon-5d-mk3-and-7d-mk2-within-a-month.html">1K1</a>] posted a [<a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=38176836">DPR</a>] rumor about a 5D Mark III and 7D Mark II being announced within a month.</p>
<p>Enjoy the spelling mistakes. :)</p>
<blockquote><p>My local dealer, media markt, claims that the new 5d3 and 7d2 will be announced within a month and in the shelves this summer. The sales representative was so sure and convincing that I am selling my 5d2 before the price drops. He claimed the sales team already prepares for the rush of totally 7 new models/updates from Canon and Nikon, and that the new add’s from media markt are being prepared formthis as we speek!</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>CR’s Take

</strong>Not likely. I think I’ll see a 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x before I see a 7D Mark II.</p>
<p>I know of two dealers that have advanced knowledge of some product announcements, and by advanced… I mean about 48 hours.</p>
<p>File this under “grain of salt bigger than a Bentley”</p>
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Re: 5D Mark III & 7D Mark II Within a Month! Means that Elvis is

alive and well singing in Vegas this August. So the conspiracy theory proves to be right...;-) BTW: An early fall anncouncement as mentioned earlier on this site (I won't forget the grain of salt either regarding the situation in Japan) would be great. So enjoy your days and fire your frames away with any type of gear available...Regards, Peter in Switzerland
 
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Canon Rumors said:
[<p>I know of two dealers that have advanced knowledge of some product announcements, and by advanced… I mean about 48 hours.</p>

Well, Media Markt is part of a quite a large store chain, something in the ballpark of Best Buy. But information trickeling down through the franchising relations, management and logistics to the common photo aisle guy? :)
Perhaps something along the lines of "supply is running low" + "last time that happend the new models showed up"...
 
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1. Media Markt is a large retail chain selling all over Europe, based in Germany, specialising on consumer goods, mainly in the medium to lower quality range. Main sales argument is cheapest price.
mediamarkt.de/angebot/digitalkamera_camcorder/

2. Due to the low price market approach many (but probably not all!) sales persons have not enjoyed a thorough training in photography.

3. As Media Markt advertisements usually react very quick to market changes. I would doubt that the advertisements are being prepared many weeks in advance.

4. I assume that Canon goes to the press with news about a new camera several weeks or even months before you can buy them in the shops. If you look at the latest L lenses the delay can last up to several months.

Summary: Probability of this rumour seemsto be pretty low from my point of view.
 
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I literally can't wait for this camera to come out. I'm loving the suspense, the anticipation, the surety that I'll be disappointed in some ways and blown away in others.

I'll be pre-ordering this camera, pretty much no matter what. I wonder what the delay will be between me sending that order in and actually receiving it? I've seen other cameras take several months to ship to people when they were released.

Having never peeked through a FF body before (and I'm not going to until the day I unbox this thing), it's gonna be rapturous for me. First lens on will be my 135L. First subject will be my wife or dog, whoever is being cuter that day.
 
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I talked with a guy who works at the carwash yesterday. He's top wipe there and said he personally handles the car of the Canon USA Marketing VP. He said the VP told him the exact date the 5D Mark III will be available for purchase here in the U.S.

Unfortunately, this car wash guy wants me to pay him $1000 for the information. Well, I'm saving my money for the actual camera.

If anyone wants this information, send me the $1000, and I'll get it for you from this car wash guy!



Disclaimer: This is satire and not a solicitation for funds. If you'd like to send me $1000 just to be nice, I'll appreciate it, even report it as income, but I'm not offering anything in return.
 
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I would love this to be true. However, it sounds too good to be true. I have read too many false rumors and so many unimpressive new products since 5D mark II that I have a large grain of salt.

There are two ways this could be spoiled:
1) this does not happen
2) 5D mark III is not even close I (among the other HDSLR people) would hope it to be (e.g. Having Digic V, fixing the aliasing and resolution problems on video). I use the 5D mark II for video about 80% of the use, so the video section plays the most major role in the choice to upgrade or not to upgrade. I have shot ~10 terabytes of original footage with my 5D mark II.

The latter could happen if the camera is pushed out too early and the essential upgrades are descoped like have been the case with 7D, 550D, 600D, 60D. I am sincerely hoping that it takes so long for Canon to update 5D mark II because they want to make it perfect. The hopes are so high for the 5D mark III that they better fix the video problems before they release it, delaying is better than releasing without improvement. If the severe video aliasing and moire would still be in 5D mark III, I would give up and continue with the 5D mark II until I can afford RED somewhere in the distant future. I don't care how many autofocus points, optical viewfinder or anything like that, 5D mark II is perfectly sufficient for still images. In still photos, 5D mark II does everything I want and I can concentrate on trying to make great pictures rather than to the tool I use to do them. However, for 5D mark III absolutely essential: I want professional cinematic image quality on my video footage instead.

So I hope that when a 5D mark III rumor comes true, no matter when (now, later, distant future), it holds to the anticipation this model will have on it. The need for serious upgrade on the video processing side is such that I hope that Canon listens and acts for it. The camera has huge potential but as it is now (all models), they are all deeply flawed, they produce deficient footage and lots of effort is needed to avoid e.g. the aliasing problem and very often footage is ruined by aliasing and it can be only noticed afterwards when viewing on computer. 5D mark III - the choices are: 1) no more aliasing 2) no more Canon.
 
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Catz, I agree with you 100%.

With that said, I really think Canon is going DOWNHILL FAST with regard to video, especially since it seems like they have NOTHING to show at NAB except a few PL mount lenses. That's 2 years in a row that Canon has essentially sat out at NAB.

It's really strange because they accidentally created the new niche of affordable, interchangeable lens video cameras. Instead of capitalizing on it, they've let the lead slip away on a market they could have easily owned. Panasonic and Sony have are releasing and announcing great new video products and Canon instead keeps updating their fixed lens video cameras (their only showing at NAB) that nobody wants to buy anymore, and no DSLR that addresses the moire problem.

They really baffle me as a company. They created a new market with the 5D and 7D, which they essentially owned but they seem to be content just milking profits and not innovating or releasing any new products at all, just re-hashes of existing cameras.

If they keep this up, they will always be strictly a stills company when they could have been so much more.

I probably would have jumped ship by now to Panasonic, except I own some nice Canon lenses, and Panny has the lame 2x crop. But Sony is starting to look really good for video guys. Even Nikon is starting to realize how valuable DSLR video really is to profits, with their upcoming cameras

With Sony being so aggressive lately with their camera stuff, I would not be surprised at all if they over took Canon in the near future, not only in DSLR video, but in Still as well. Canon is playing it way too slow and way too safe, which is becoming not safe.

But yes, for video the 5D3 is do-or-die for Canon. If the 5D3 has the moire and aliasing problem still, Canon will be completely done for video.

Which would probably make the stills people happy. hehe.
 
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I think you are understating Canon's commitment to video. Look at what was added to the 60D and what was taken away: Swivel screen, something video people want and something stills purist sneer at. Microadjust: Something stills people are in arms over and something video people couldn't care less about. If the next 5D has a swivel screen (something I, amazingly to myself, can't discount), it shows that they understand the dual market they helped usher into being.

I think it's a little like the mirrorless market. Canon is terrified of two competing threats: Cannibalization of its own markets from within and loss of markets from without. If they don't go video, offer mirrorless, etc., they miss out on new money. If they do, they risk losing old money. They seem to be taking the cautious approach, feeling out the consumer, tacking more like a tanker and less like a sloop.

Which is frustrating for those of us emotionally and financially invested in the company. I would LOVE to have a small, mirrorless Canon to add to my pack. It wouldn't replace my camera, it would just go with me on different sorts of outings. Canon underestimates (shockingly) its brand loyalty. Most DSLR users I know love their S95s or G11s or what-not. Canon should branch out as far and as fast as humanly possible. We will meet them in all corners.
 
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