5D Mark III [CR1]

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#81
ReyMorlu said:
I would like to know if people actually has any idea of what means resolution!?
I have read lot of times "no more Mpx, I don't need them" And some people saying (LOL) 24Mpx or so... is quite enought!
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The problem with DSLRs is that they are all-around cameras. They are supposed to be good at "everything", and thus there are compromises. For hand-held and/or low-light shooting a large amount of megapixels is just a waste, since you cannot make use of them due to shake/noise. But for still life photography you almost cannot get too much resolution.

Medium format systems are much more specialized. For example fully manual technical view cameras for product photography, architecture, landscapes. Very good for that particular task, but totally useless for any kind of action photo and cannot be hand-held.

I myself would want to have a medium format system for still life photography, but I'm an amateur and don't have the budget so what I hope for instead is a high resolution DSLR.
 
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#82
Bob Howland said:
And, of course, you can point to single or double blind tests indicating that more resolution is critical to image quality. The only one that I know of indicated that people couldn't differentiate between 13"x19" prints made from images taken with a Canon G10 P&S and, I think, a Hasselblad 40MP MF digital camera.
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It is quite hard to make valuable tests like this. It is no difficulty for anyone to differ between a 200 ppi and 400 ppi high quality c print (assuming good quality image with fine details), it is just a matter of how close you get to the image. There are very different opinions about which viewing distances that are relevant. I think that for reasonably large fine art images (say 13x19 inches and above) a suitable viewing distance is about the same as the width of the image. Those that think that resolution is not so important usually think about viewing distances much farther away. There's also much differing between individuals how well they can detect resolution differences. Expert photographers that themselves care about resolution are usually better than their audience, but still they want the satisfaction from making the highest quality print, although the audience would settle for less.

Some also think it is important to have high resolution to get that quality feel, that is when you get close there's still resolution there. If you get below 200 ppi, it's often possible to see pixel artifacts (or upscaler artifacts) when you get close to the paper, and that's not what you'd want on a quality fine art print even if it's normally going to be viewed from a distance.

Personally, I like to keep the prints in the 300 - 400 ppi range if possible. With current resolving power in lenses somewhere 40-60 megapixels seems suitable upper limit for full frame sensors, and then I could do say 25x17 inches in full quality before starting to need upscaling tricks to hide pixel artifacts on close inspection.
 
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#83
I compare those arguing against more pixels to King Canute demonstrating to his court that even a King cannot hold back the tide. It is inevitable and totally unstoppable, far better to "lie back and enjoy the ride" - As a certain female media star was supposed to have said to a senior religious figure.

I look forward to more (massively more) pixel counts because it will produce a "smoother" product, no longer will I get annoyed when pixel edges are visible because of tonal or colour changes. That is a much more obvious issue than the "resolution" issue that non-believers keep bringing up.

We can expect the MP count to keep doubling for many years to come because time and science don't stand still. I fully expect these same discussions in a few years over "Is 400 MP enough"?

But at the same time I personally hope that science offers us a solution soon to the currently apalling dynamic resolution of the present crop of digital cameras.
 
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#84
QUESTION;

when the 5D MK iii is finally announced/released will a 'body only' version be available as at launch date? Or do they normally put out kits (ie. 5d mk iii + 24-105 f4 L) for the first 6 months?
 
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simonnca said:
QUESTION;

when the 5D MK iii is finally announced/released will a 'body only' version be available as at launch date? Or do they normally put out kits (ie. 5d mk iii + 24-105 f4 L) for the first 6 months?
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You can look at the past1 The pro models have not been available on the day of the announcement. Its usually been a month or three. I ordered my 5D MK II on the day it was announced, and it took 3 months. I also ordered a 7D on the day it was announced, and it took about a month to be shipped.

There are lots who say they will order one, but how many actually will order one is quaetionable. Many will wait and see, and then will be in the 6 month waiting line.
 
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scalesusa said:
Tastino0 said:
So, it is possible that 5dMIII will be announced in August but it will ship in December?
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If announced at the end of August, or early September, it would likely be shipping in November.
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If it's true, my plan will be ruined. I've planned to buy that at my hometown so I can get discount before moving to Singapore :o
 
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#94
torger said:
motorhead said:
Unlike others, I'm all in favour of as many mp as possible.
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Me too :-). I think 40 - 60 megapixels would be ideal for full-frame 36x24mm sensors. Past that the sensor is too small to support it well, and resolution will be higher than needed for most applications. I'd like to be able to produce pictures that can fill a book spread at glorious 400 ppi, which current full-frame cameras can't because resolution is too low. If you shoot detailed landscapes today you'd want a medium format system, which of course are way too expensive for hobbyists. Anyway 32 megapixels is a step in the right direction from my point of view.
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or, you could do panoramic stitches and get whatever size you want. :D
 
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#95
I need accurate data regarding the emergence of 6D or 5D mark iii 8) ... anyone know where I can get that information ;D... and whether the calamity that struck the Japanese make the 5D mark iii delayed or dead? :-\
 
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The thing that does not make sense to me about the rumor that a 5D MKIII high resolution camera replacing the 1Ds MK IV (or whatever) is the weather sealing. Many pro nature & wildlife photographers comment about the excellence of the weather sealing of the 1D series of bodies. I even recall one comment about a photographer accidentally dunking his camera in the ocean, shaking it off (presumably drying the front element) and continuing shooting. Unless the 5D MK III has that level of weather sealing, I can not see that group of users being entirely pleased with it.

As far as MP count and resolution go, Jay Goodrich, posting on behalf of Art Wolfe, (April 13, 2011 entry http://blog.artwolfe.com/2009/01/equipment/ ) says that they print up to 30x40 inches using Photoshop (to size the image for printing) for images captured with Art's 1Ds MK III 21 MP camera. He also notes that Art used a tripod, cable release and sets the camera for mirror lock-up whenever possible.

I am certain that Canon will continue to increase the resolution of sensors, but it seems that, beyond about 24 MP, other considerations may attain greater influence. We shall see.
 
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Well, I guess it depends whether it will be a 5D X (whatever the X is there for) ::) - same sensor as 1D - we've had it before?
I think that plenty of readers here (if not the majority) would be happy with one DIGIC5, (+- one DIGIC4 for focusing on 20+ fields), same high ISO 51Tsd, 5-6 FPS and anywhere 18-25 MP (well more like 21-25 ;)). For 3000USD at max.
I am sad because of the release date March 2012. Seems like an eternity for me to jump onto a nextgen FF.
What next ? Are we in the dark for another 6 months until the next press release ?
Better start re-bonding to my old 40D again :'(
 
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