5D Mark IV: Dual Pixel Raw allows focus in post. Wow!

[Ozarker]

According to this post at Creative Live, dual pixel raw allows users to focus in post. Wow!

http://blog.creativelive.com/canon-5d-mark-iv-dual-pixel-raw/?utm_campaign=canon-5d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

Canon never innovates. Sony.

 

[David the street guy]

This is cool! I wonder, however, how someone like me would manage these numerous 67 Mb pictures.

For now, I'm somewhat able to eliminate without too much hesitation the blurry pictures or the ones that are clearly missed, but if I can keep them "to work on them later" (yeah, sure!), I'm afraid of what could become of my photo library… ;-)

 

[Ozarker]

This is cool! I wonder, however, how someone like me would manage these numerous 67 Mb pictures.

For now, I'm somewhat able to eliminate without too much hesitation the blurry pictures or the ones that are clearly missed, but if I can keep them "to work on them later" (yeah, sure!), I'm afraid of what could become of my photo library… ;-)

Haha! David, if you are as bad at this as I am there aren't too many keepers anyway. For me, though, even if even if things in perfect focus (what I want to be in focus) very few photos make me go "ooooo, ahhhhh!" Those are the only one's I keep.

Besides, a terabyte is very inexpensive these days. A DVD to file the best of the best to is even less expensive. I print those too.

I used to take hundreds of photos on an outing. Now I might take twenty. Life is a lot easier and I find I get more keepers.

 

[Ozarker]

Looks like someone has created a blog post after reading too much hype on canonrumors.

We'll know in a few days.

 

[Loswr]

Forecast: chance of rain on parade day

Image Micro-adjustment: by using the depth information, to fine-tune the maximum position of the sharpness and resolution (original: micro-adjusts the position of maximum sharpness and resolution)

Where is the word 'focus' used? Nowhere except in people's interpretation of translations of a rumor/leak.

Consider what it actually says – use depth information to adjust position of maximum sharpness. That seems quite reasonable – dual pixels allow determination of what is in focus vs. out of focus based on phase information. So DPP will apply selective sharpening to the in-focus areas.

Also consider the other stated functionality – bokeh shift. In other words, the converse of the above...selective application of blur to already OOF areas.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

The translations are confusing, but some people have great imaginations. Its going to be a tweak, and Neuro is likely correct.

I wonder how useful it will actually be. I also wonder what other possible uses might pop up using the phase information from the dual pixels. I think Canon may be continuing to develop this in future years. The Dual pixel technology is still relatively new.

 

[3kramd5]

Forecast: chance of rain on parade day

Image Micro-adjustment: by using the depth information, to fine-tune the maximum position of the sharpness and resolution (original: micro-adjusts the position of maximum sharpness and resolution)

Where is the word 'focus' used? Nowhere except in people's interpretation of translations of a rumor/leak.

Consider what it actually says – use depth information to adjust position of maximum sharpness. That seems quite reasonable – dual pixels allow determination of what is in focus vs. out of focus based on phase information. So DPP will apply selective sharpening to the in-focus areas.

Also consider the other stated functionality – bokeh shift. In other words, the converse of the above...selective application of blur to already OOF areas.

Except that doesn't explain "adjust position of." Selectively sharpening in focus areas may be what it means, but it isn't what it says. Nor does it say you can adjust the position of focus. Probably lost in translation, but perhaps "adjust maximum sharpness based on position" is more accurate.

 

[YuengLinger]

Dual pixel, with its incorporation of hadron tendrils, will without a doubt lead to commercial transporter beam technology. In fact, according to my friends in Switzerland and Japan, Canon already has a working prototype, successfully beaming sushi from Tokyo to Geneva, and perfectly functioning cuckoo clocks in the other direction.

 

[Ozarker]

Dual pixel, with its incorporation of hadron tendrils, will without a doubt lead to commercial transporter beam technology. In fact, according to my friends in Switzerland and Japan, Canon already has a working prototype, successfully beaming sushi from Tokyo to Geneva, and perfectly functioning cuckoo clocks in the other direction.

As long as Canon can also beam fresh Ahi or Kobe beef Sashimi (Or other thinly sliced raw meats) to put in or on my Sushi here in Mesquite, Nevada... I'll be real happy.

 

[3kramd5]

Dual pixel, with its incorporation of hadron tendrils, will without a doubt lead to commercial transporter beam technology. In fact, according to my friends in Switzerland and Japan, Canon already has a working prototype, successfully beaming sushi from Tokyo to Geneva, and perfectly functioning cuckoo clocks in the other direction.

Probably need to use this neutrino coated lens though.

 

[monkey44]

Dual pixel, with its incorporation of hadron tendrils, will without a doubt lead to commercial transporter beam technology. In fact, according to my friends in Switzerland and Japan, Canon already has a working prototype, successfully beaming sushi from Tokyo to Geneva, and perfectly functioning cuckoo clocks in the other direction.

Probably need to use this neutrino coated lens though.

Eventually, depending on the camera you use with this lens, you either materialize a one foot tall version of yourself beamed to your home-site if you shoot with a Rebel, or a full-size version of self with the newest 1D series. Need a high end 3D printer tho.

 

[transpo1]

Forecast: chance of rain on parade day

Image Micro-adjustment: by using the depth information, to fine-tune the maximum position of the sharpness and resolution (original: micro-adjusts the position of maximum sharpness and resolution)

Where is the word 'focus' used? Nowhere except in people's interpretation of translations of a rumor/leak.

Consider what it actually says – use depth information to adjust position of maximum sharpness. That seems quite reasonable – dual pixels allow determination of what is in focus vs. out of focus based on phase information. So DPP will apply selective sharpening to the in-focus areas.

Also consider the other stated functionality – bokeh shift. In other words, the converse of the above...selective application of blur to already OOF areas.

Yes, these seem like minute changes to select areas of the image, not Lytro-style refocusing as the blog post seems to imply.

 

[Hjalmarg1]

According to this post at Creative Live, dual pixel raw allows users to focus in post. Wow!

http://blog.creativelive.com/canon-5d-mark-iv-dual-pixel-raw/?utm_campaign=canon-5d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

Canon never innovates. Sony.

I agree that Canon has recently improved what they have but not any innovation. In innovation area, Sony is the leader and that is the reason many Canon/Nikon shooters have moved to Sony despite their flaws.
Touch screen and WiFi connectivity's been in the market and just they are adding it to 1Dx2 and 5D4, what a shame...
DPRAW will be a good help but people may be more interested in aspects such as better ISO performance and DR

 

[rs]

Touch screen and WiFi connectivity's been in the market and just they are adding it to 1Dx2 and 5D4, what a shame...

Any ideas who out of Canon and Sony was first to bring a touch screen to a camera?

 

[Mancubus]

According to this post at Creative Live, dual pixel raw allows users to focus in post. Wow!

If this is true, it's the best news in photography I can remember.

I think it's WAY more important than any DR, ISO noise, fps, resolution or touch screen improvements. If the 5d4 was exactly like a 5d3 but with this post focus adjustment, I'd still be very happy.

I say this, because focusing is the ONLY factor that is beyond our total control when taking a photo (using viewfinder). Exposure, ISO, aperture, shutter speed, composition...all these factors can be controlled and a good photographer will know how to do it.

However, there is simply no way to ensure that the 200mm 2.8 portrait you shot will have the focus right on the eyes. If you're using a top quality gear it probably will be, but no matter what you're doing, there is always a chance that it will be slightly missed by a hair. And it's so damn frustrating when it happens to your best shot of the session.

Really hoping for the blog to be right.

 

[pokerz]

Yes, it looks interesting.
So do your have any sample to share or just plain text? :-\

 

[Ozarker]

According to this post at Creative Live, dual pixel raw allows users to focus in post. Wow!

http://blog.creativelive.com/canon-5d-mark-iv-dual-pixel-raw/?utm_campaign=canon-5d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

Canon never innovates. Sony.

I agree that Canon has recently improved what they have but not any innovation. In innovation area, Sony is the leader and that is the reason many Canon/Nikon shooters have moved to Sony despite their flaws.
Touch screen and WiFi connectivity's been in the market and just they are adding it to 1Dx2 and 5D4, what a shame...
DPRAW will be a good help but people may be more interested in aspects such as better ISO performance and DR

My "Canon never innovates" was pure sarcasm. The Canon T5i had a touch screen. So did the 70D which also had touch screen, DPAF, and the new STM lenses.

 

[TommyLee]

sorry if I am not 'up to speed' on this spec for 5d4..
but if it is dual pixel bassed and handled in dpp file processing of RAW...

would the 1dx2 ALSO be capable of doing this once the NEW dpp is out?

(maybe an enablement is required on 1dx2.... in a firmware update... that could not be enabled at release because the 5d4 was not out yet)

am I missing something ...besides a few teeth on my gears...ha

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everyone here seems up on this.. so clue me in ..
if I get the 1dx2... I likely can dothat dual pixel time travel and focus - tune the shot...

I am leaning BACK to 1dx2 because of some nice features that wont be on 5d4
and I have a 5d3 so I am close to modern there

I am not in NEED of 30 versus 20 megapixels..
$2500 saved smaller footprint

and not in NEEd OF 14/16 FPS...
LOVE spot meter-focus, better shutter speed in aperture, Manual exp comp, ..on and on

BOTH ARE NICE...but not ...defining


thanks for the help..
groggy...woke early... please forgive ...silly questions if that is what this is..

I dont mind canon rummaging thru my wallet ....
I enjoy the experience...the toys

tom

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

It seems that the rumor "world's first DSLR" referred to this. :

 

[Deleted member 7828]

But we don't know this FOR SURE, do we? I'd be careful to jump the gun here before official confirmation...

Or, maybe it's simply for click bait