Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS

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RC said:
Come on Canon, get the specs nailed down and announced. I've got the FF bug and I'm ready to pull the trigger. If the specs are what's rumoured in this post and it has AFMA, I'm likely in. I do expect it to be $2500 and not $2000 ($2000 will be reserved for the new 7D).

Otherwise, I'm back to the 5D3 but it's price needs to drop a little more to $3000 and I may have to sell something.

i've been waiting for this camera since the beginning of the year!! the 5d mk iii was an option but too expensive! now canon please announce and start selling it before autumn please!!
 
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Max 5D3 ISO is 102400
mathino said:
mememe said:
18mp would be cool cause its the 1dx sensor.

I would buy it.

I know that its probably too early for any assumptions but

  • 1D-X - native ISO range: 100 - 51 200
  • 5D Mk III - native ISO range: 100-25 600
  • rumored new FF - native ISO range: 100-51 200

It makes sense to re-use 1D-X sensor in feature-crippled/slower/more consumer oriented body.
 
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lola said:
marekjoz said:
trygved said:
Exactly the camera I'm waiting for.

Same me! If it's 5d2 with a new sensor and 7d's AF, I'm in!

Comparing the image quality of RAW files from 5D Mark II and 5D Mark III, "new sensor" means pretty much nothing! Basicly you're in for 4 year ago's image quality with 3 year ago's AF.

I'm sick and tired of Canon playing mix & match with yesterday's tech!
How is it possible to have the newest tech and low price at the same time???
 
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baronng said:
Max 5D3 ISO is 102400
mathino said:
mememe said:
18mp would be cool cause its the 1dx sensor.

I would buy it.

I know that its probably too early for any assumptions but

  • 1D-X - native ISO range: 100 - 51 200
  • 5D Mk III - native ISO range: 100-25 600
  • rumored new FF - native ISO range: 100-51 200

It makes sense to re-use 1D-X sensor in feature-crippled/slower/more consumer oriented body.

Depends on what you assume is max ISO. In my assumption I get it as maximum native ISO - not H1 or H2.
 
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Tymo93 said:
Cool i'll probably buy it! Although I think people will rather buy this one over the 7D which means Canon loses on 7D

No they do not lose :) Depends on what you need. 7D has more reach, 7D is faster (8 fps) and can use EF-S lenses. My guess is that 7D Mk II will come with 22 or 24 MPx sensor, high fps and maybe dual Digic V.
 
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Rocky said:
lola said:
marekjoz said:
trygved said:
Exactly the camera I'm waiting for.

Same me! If it's 5d2 with a new sensor and 7d's AF, I'm in!

Comparing the image quality of RAW files from 5D Mark II and 5D Mark III, "new sensor" means pretty much nothing! Basicly you're in for 4 year ago's image quality with 3 year ago's AF.

I'm sick and tired of Canon playing mix & match with yesterday's tech!
How is it possible to have the newest tech and low price at the same time???

+1

Exaclty as I stated in my longer post on page 1 :)
 
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mathino said:
Rocky said:
lola said:
marekjoz said:
trygved said:
Exactly the camera I'm waiting for.

Same me! If it's 5d2 with a new sensor and 7d's AF, I'm in!

Comparing the image quality of RAW files from 5D Mark II and 5D Mark III, "new sensor" means pretty much nothing! Basicly you're in for 4 year ago's image quality with 3 year ago's AF.

I'm sick and tired of Canon playing mix & match with yesterday's tech!
How is it possible to have the newest tech and low price at the same time???

+1

Exaclty as I stated in my longer post on page 1 :)

Is this question for real?

A simple example would be the iPhone/iPad! Every generation is clearly superior over the previous yet the pricing stays the same! That's how!

If we're going to pay more each year for better tech, well, I guess a camera will cost $50.000 in 2020!
 
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lola said:
mathino said:
Rocky said:
lola said:
marekjoz said:
trygved said:
Exactly the camera I'm waiting for.

Same me! If it's 5d2 with a new sensor and 7d's AF, I'm in!

Comparing the image quality of RAW files from 5D Mark II and 5D Mark III, "new sensor" means pretty much nothing! Basicly you're in for 4 year ago's image quality with 3 year ago's AF.

I'm sick and tired of Canon playing mix & match with yesterday's tech!
How is it possible to have the newest tech and low price at the same time???

+1

Exaclty as I stated in my longer post on page 1 :)

Is this question for real?

A simple example would be the iPhone/iPad! Every generation is clearly superior over the previous yet the pricing stays the same! That's how!

If we're going to pay more each year for better tech, well, I guess a camera will cost $50.000 in 2020!

lol and that would be a point and shoot compact camera!
 
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that is what i am talking about in another thread of new canon entry level full frame. if this rumors becomes true, i think canon will receive massive orders in the future. another thing is that canon must ensure that the build quality of body must match 7D.

ways to keep loyalty customers to stay with canon. imo, we do not need high megapixel like nikon d800, it is only good for people who takes pictures, crops them later...
 
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mathino said:
sleepnever said:
Its interesting that the framerate is only 3.9fps with that Digic5+ (if any of these are true of course). I'd love to see at least 5.

They could cripple it down to 3.9 fps or so. 5D Mk III fps is 6 so 5 will be too close. But it will be nice to have 5 fps.

It's one of parameters to be set by Canon rather than hardware restriction. They set it according to the marketing policy.
 
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mathino said:
bbasiaga said:
That is really exciting. I'm looking for an upgrade to my 5D and/or 40D. The only thing I suspect is that the $2000 price tag will be more like $2500 at launch.

-Brian

Well I see your point :)

Unless...Canon decides to discontinue 5D Mk II, lower the price to sell remaining Mk II bodies and then sell "entry level FF" for about 2000 USD. They wont sell too much Mk II bodies when this FF will hit market (with body build like 7D).

So I can see 2 scenarios:
  • Canon discontinuing 5D Mk II and selling remaing for less, they will get those money on new bodies
  • 5D Mk II not discontinued for a while and "new FF" for 2500 USD as you stated, then discontinuing 5D Mk II and lowering price for "new FF"

I hope for first scenario ;)

this is what i guess... manufacturing costs of overhead would be larger for canon to keep 5D Mark II in production; therefore, it will probably be discontinued for new entry level full frame coming in. however, it still depends on new entry level full frame real specs and its quality comparing to 5D Mark II.
 
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ishdakuteb said:
this is what i guess... manufacturing costs of overhead would be larger for canon to keep 5D Mark II in production; therefore, it will probably be discontinued for new entry level full frame coming in. however, it still depends on new entry level full frame real specs and its quality comparing to 5D Mark II.

Yes and this is why discontinuing 5D Mk II makes sense to me. I think that it was Canons cash cow for a long period of time - now its time to introduce something new that will take Mk IIs place. Seems like a win for Canon and also for us users (if body build quality is the same, better AF - 7D-like and other specs mentioned becomes true).

I can imagine that it could have build in flash, external flash controll (like 7D) or build-in RT transmitter (this could force users to start thinking about 600EX-RT)...but...only my speculations for now.

We have to wait couple of weeks longer. Im sure that something new will surface in 2-3 weeks :)
 
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setrio said:
I want this camera now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waiting for a new cheap FF for a while now,....

I want it too ;D A lot of us do (at least I think ;D )

...but you know, camera is not even announced yet and there are already complains about "old" tech used and high price (compared to rumored D600 price) and not enough "speced" (in comparison to D600 again).

If rumored specs about this - lets say 6D - becomes true product with AFMA, C1, C2, C3 and <= 2000 USD price - Im fully in and I wont complain :)

Anyway I still like my 450D. Yes it has 4 years old tech inside (or even older), but I like it and can use it up to its limits to get most out of it :)
 
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mathino said:
setrio said:
I want this camera now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waiting for a new cheap FF for a while now,....

I want it too ;D A lot of us do (at least I think ;D )

...but you know, camera is not even announced yet and there are already complains about "old" tech used and high price (compared to rumored D600 price) and not enough "speced" (in comparison to D600 again).

If rumored specs about this - lets say 6D - becomes true product with AFMA, C1, C2, C3 and <= 2000 USD price - Im fully in and I wont complain :)

Anyway I still like my 450D. Yes it has 4 years old tech inside (or even older), but I like it and can use it up to its limits to get most out of it :)
setrio said:
I want this camera now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waiting for a new cheap FF for a while now,....

seems like a lot of people want this camera, canon you can't go wrong on this one now!
 
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