For those that marvel at the idea that one could get this kind of update in a camera you bought years ago, you now know why Tesla owners are always happy.
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A tree is a living thing so maybe if there is not much wind.I wonder how fast this will work or if I can take a photo of a living thing (and yea with flash would be nice too..)
Presumably it will work with electronic shutter, which means at *up to* 20fps (with fast shutter speeds, and a fully charged battery). So for a very slow-moving subject such as @neuroanatomist's sloth, you might get away with a handheld shot IF you have extremely steady hands. Flash photography with ES is not possible with the R5.I wonder how fast this will work or if I can take a photo of a living thing (and yea with flash would be nice too..)
Well, for those who want high-resolution stills of static motifs, pixel shift makes much more sense than a 400 MP sensor. But I am with you, 200 MP smartphone images are just marketing crap. The tiny pixels on those small sensors are technically rubbish, their dynamic range is extremely limited, and to catch really sharp images on the pixel level they would require crazy high shutter speeds which would be in conflict with the exploding noise. They try to overcome those problems with heavy use of algorithms, but that doesn't always work well. I have a Samsung smartphone with "only" 64 MP and four cameras, but its image quality is worse than the images from the single 8 MP camera in the old S5 smartphone I had before.Canon why you wouldn't start with 1TP = 1 terapixel = 1000MP where each JPEG file would require 1GB of memory? Complete nonsense. This is just a response to Samsung smartphones tiny sensors with 200MP.
Very steady hands, since presumably IBIS won’t be helping stabilize the image.Presumably it will work with electronic shutter, which means at *up to* 20fps (with fast shutter speeds, and a fully charged battery). So for a very slow-moving subject such as @neuroanatomist's sloth, you might get away with a handheld shot IF you have extremely steady hands. Flash photography with ES is not possible with the R5.
No, the photos were taken with iPhones, that's true. What they "forget" to mention is that those photos were not printed on the billboard as-is... very expensive hardware and professional teams were used to enlarge themYes, they say so, then maybe it is discovered the image was actually shot with an Hasselblad. Jokes aside, street billboards are designed to be seen at a large distance - the actual resolution doesn't need to be high. But there are large images that are designed to be seen at close distance.
That's an interesting point. I doubt if IBIS stabilisation would work in conjunction with pixel-shift. I'd expect one or the other to be operational only. Currently, with RF lenses, OIS and IBIS work in conjunction, but I'd assume that when pixel-shift is selected, that only OIS would be operational for stabilisation purposes.Very steady hands, since presumably IBIS won’t be helping stabilize the image.
A thoughtful insight, which I totally agree with. In a single image, there will always be overlap between each color-filtered pixel sensor even with ideal conditions (a rigid flat in-focus subject, rigid camera & sub-pixel moved sensor perfectly aligned to the subject, and a perfect lens). Also, each pixel element has some (appreciable) light from all colors in it with a peak for the desired color, which the de-Bayering software is pretty good at resolving. Each shifted image (if 1/2 pixel) has the chance to give better color information since each pixel would now have each RGB input (and green would have 2 shots of every pixel), but 'should' only increase the pixel color & resolution accuracy instead of increasing pixel count. A 1/3 pixel shift with 9 shots would have quite a lot of overlap between pixels, which ideal de-Bayering software could probably get some impressive results with. If everything was perfect then I think that this could give an impressive and useful higher resolution image.Four 1/2-pixel moves would be the minimum to keep the same 3:2 aspect ratio. Canon has chosen nine 1/3-pixel moves for a higher MP output.
I’ve previously posted that I suspect even the 2x2 array, though it yields four times the MP, does not deliver four times the resolution. The reason is that gapless microlenses already collect light from the full spatial area projected into each pixel. Many years ago, my Zeiss cameras would capture 2x2 or 3x3 sub-pixel arrays with their 1.3 MP CCD sensors that did not have gapless microlenses, and where only about 1/3 of the pixel surface was photosensitive. That means the resulting 5 and 12 MP images were real resolution increases.
IMO, a 2x2 sub-pixel sampling array with a modern sensor will have a significant proportion of empty resolution, and Canon’s 3x3 sub-pixel sampling array will be mostly empty resolution.
I look forward to seeing some detailed testing.
Given the requirement for a static subject, I’d say no.
400 MP is an interesting number. Seems like the only way to get to that high a number would be to take advantage of the DPAF split pixels (R5 really has 90 MP) along with pixel shift and some serious processing. Interested to see if the processing is done in camera or only in DPP and if the result is only a JPEG or something with 14-16 bits per pixel. If it works well, this will make the 85mm f/1.2 a must-have for some folks as that is just about the only lens with enough acuity to pull that off. Effective pixel pitch is just under 2 microns which puts DLA at about f/1.6, so you need a lens that is stunningly sharp at f/1.8. Seems like a great plan to move a bunch of those golden 85mm f/1.2s .
It must be doing this in camera otherwise this is nothing new, and can already be done simply by taking a burst of images and stacking them in post. Astro photographers do it all the time. I do agree that the buffer is large enough though 400mp is only 9 images
Yes, I recall going over the patent for the IBIS carefully when it came out. An electric pulse must be needed to shift the sensor and hold it in place while capturing the image. Ibis moves the sensor to account for camera movement so it seems unlikely that it could be stabilizing but moving the sensor at a offset of 1/2 pixel or whatever. I wonder if the mechanics are precise enough to allow that. Maybe it does not matter how much the offset is, in that case, IBIS could be possible by modifying the IBIS motion to be offset.Very steady hands, since presumably IBIS won’t be helping stabilize the image.
There is already noise-reduction "baked in" to RAW files, i.e. in the camera firmware. New more efficient firmware could further reduce noise without impacting detail sharpness. You only have to look at software like DeepPrime to see that RAW files can have noise virtually eliminated. It will take a few years before camera processors using AI are powerful enough to deal with it at that level, but there's certainly room for improvement.
Most commercial photographers who shoot static subjects like product, food, interiors , reproduction, with cameras firmly fixed to a tripod will 90% of the time also use flash.
I’m pretty sure this feature will not offer flash sync just like focus stacking in the R5.
To have such an extreme view of 1 out of 50 users would need some justification.Firstly, consider the ratio of amateurs : professionals who buy the R5. It's widely accepted that the vast majority of purchasers of high-end gear are amateur enthusiasts. Neither of us know the exact figure, but my guess is that pros make up less than 2% of R5 buyers.
The R5 outputs 8k30 at 2600Mbps, 4k120 (as 4k30 files with no sound) at 1880Mbps.As for user-selectable final resolutions, I think it will be a simple choice between 45MP and 200MP, and nothing inbetween. I also think there's a strong possibility that the output will only be JPEG/HEIF, as the R5 probably doesn't have enough processing power to output 200MP RAWs, and would need a huge buffer ( or a VERY long busy" time).
Agreed. Lightning triggers have always been a pain for me so using long exposures gets more keepers... YMMVAnd you can do a nine shots in a row of lightning to add them up for a 400 MP pic?
If the R5 is that "fast as lightning", it's good for you if that feature comes to the R5.
TBH that wouldn't be my approach to take photos of lightning but if that works for you ...
Using the standard AF case, I was getting lots of success shooting puffins which are fast movers. Really surprised me. I am not a birder was new to the genre but very happy with my R5. I'll admit that most of the shots had clear backgrounds to that helped.With slow-moving birds it's easy to get the eye-AF to lock on and track, even when the bird is quite distant, if the background is uncluttered. But when the background is fussy and close behind the subject, I'm not having much sucess.
Really? You believe that? How much is "a lot"? Do you have data to back that up? I'd guess maybe 1%...
Surely HEIF output would give a substantially better output than jpeg. Why do all that work and be limited to the jpeg colour space.The Canon website stated is was jpeg, so I don’t know why there is still discussion on it.