Bad News Closing out 2013? [CR2]
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eric_ykchan said:
Bye.
If Canon thought it was a money maker they would be making them, Sony are happy to let their insurance division pay for the throw it all up in the air and see what people buy approach to the product design decisions the electronics divisions make. Oh do you have anything of interest for the second hand market?
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RGomezPhotos said:
5D4 in 2014?
Funny but true, if they put out a 5D4 in 2014 chances are it would sell extremely poorly throughout Asia. In all seriousness I wouldn't be surprised if they release the 5D5 in 2015, and skip the 5D4.
They did make a 400D, 40D and 1D4, however notice the lack of a 1Ds4. Maybe it'll be a 5DX?
Bob Howland said:
I'm all for it as long as it can track a BIF, and they make a 400f5.6 EF-M.
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chauncey said:
You should get some better paid work, then you could salivate about gear like the 200-400L ... or you should give up working completely and then eagerly await the quarterly Rebel release or next EOS M :-> ... but in a sandwich position I'm with you, Canon has been neglecting enthusiasts a lot recently (ymmv, imho, ...).
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Was really hoping for the 7D II. Was thinking of downsizing from my 1Dx. I'm no pro and 18MP full frame for my birding / wildlife pursuits is not that great! I still need to crop a bit and well I rather do that from my 5D III.
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I could wait until 2014, if Canon releases an really "gamechanging" FF and crop-Cam that is better then the competitors. Especially an visibly better image quality would be such an gamechanging feature.
As my new 70D had an electronic failure, Canon was able to exchange it superfast. The shop, where I bought it (professional Canon store) just got a few of them. And the salesman was unhappy, about Canons behavior to keep the Camera rare until October.
I think personally he is quite right, when he says that this an disgusting Canon behavior.
I hope Canon will not do this in 2014 again, keeping the price high.
As my new 70D had an electronic failure, Canon was able to exchange it superfast. The shop, where I bought it (professional Canon store) just got a few of them. And the salesman was unhappy, about Canons behavior to keep the Camera rare until October.
I think personally he is quite right, when he says that this an disgusting Canon behavior.
I hope Canon will not do this in 2014 again, keeping the price high.
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I am actually quite happy that fewer temptations are coming my way. I am still learning to get the most out of my 1DX and 5DIII bodies. I have had the 600 f4L IS II for less than 6 months, I just got the 8-15mm and I am rediscovering my 135 f2L. So the lack of new temptations may lead to an improved ability to master the quality of what I already have 
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eric_ykchan said:
And what is the point of FF mirrorless? It's compact and lightweight? So what, with the money you spend on it I could hire a butler to carry my camera around on a silver platter! It amounts to the same thing - luxury.
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No news is good news. That's the saying I remember. We just bought my wife a 70D to replace her Olympus C7070 Wide
Zoom that she's been using for 8 years. She loves the 70D and will get much use out of it. Now we can sit on our wallets and save our money and spend our time going out and taking pics together using almost the same gear. She can use my lenses that I have and if her pics start to make mine look bad I'll have to strive to get better at my photos. It's win win.
I was worried that she would throw her hands up in the air and give me the 70D and go back to the Oly. Not going to happen cause the 70D does everything she has been doing and more. She shoots jpeg and until she has problems Raw can wait. I'm impressed at looking at the quality of the pics she has taken with the 70D so far and if I get in a situation
where my 7D struggles I'll get her to take the pic that I want. ;D
Zoom that she's been using for 8 years. She loves the 70D and will get much use out of it. Now we can sit on our wallets and save our money and spend our time going out and taking pics together using almost the same gear. She can use my lenses that I have and if her pics start to make mine look bad I'll have to strive to get better at my photos. It's win win.
I was worried that she would throw her hands up in the air and give me the 70D and go back to the Oly. Not going to happen cause the 70D does everything she has been doing and more. She shoots jpeg and until she has problems Raw can wait. I'm impressed at looking at the quality of the pics she has taken with the 70D so far and if I get in a situation
where my 7D struggles I'll get her to take the pic that I want. ;D
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Zv said:
Just because mirrorless starts in the p&s region doesn't mean it's only good for holiday snaps!
The main advantage of mirrorless next to the missing mirror (= smaller design) is that the sensor can see the picture all the time, so you can have lots of information previously missing in the evf - like focus peaking, zebras or numerous other electronic hints.
With a good sensor (ff), a good electonic viewfinder and the appropriate software pro mirrorless will make the current dslr designs look like they are from the stone age, "with mirror" will become a nice market in 10 years from now. Why do you think Canon invested so heavily in their dual pixel sensor tech?
greger said:
As you probably know, next to adjustable wb esp. with Canon raw has much more dynamic range (less danger of clipped whites, cleaner shadows) - and you can always just convert raw to jpeg or lossy-dng afterwards to save disk space, but not the other way around
greger said:
It's great you're happy with the 70d, but you might want to look again - judging from any the studio samples the new sensor isn't much of an advancement over the 7d, maybe - and that's stretching it - 0.5 stops @medium iso.
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9VIII said:
5D4 in 2014 is not likely. Afaik the 5D cycle is about three years and I like my 5D3 to remain the newest kid on this block for some additional time :
If they skip the 4 and go for 5DV this might refer to the cultural view on numbers like 4, if I am correct. So whatever it may be. I won't be in the game to upgrade but the new specs will hint at the 5DVs next upgrade 8) 25kish (5D3) ISO 51k in the 5DVI (or VII) would be just great!
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