Canon Announces the EOS Rebel T6 (1300D)

[Nininini]

I was going to defend this camera, and say how this is a cheap beginner's camera.

but:

"price of the Canon EOS Rebel T6 camera will be $549.99"

WTF?!?!?!?!?!

The previous model is far cheaper, so they're asking $150 for WiFi and NFC? That's a LOT of money.

 

[Sporgon]

I was going to defend this camera, and say how this is a cheap beginner's camera.

but:

"price of the Canon EOS Rebel T6 camera will be $549.99"

WTF?!?!?!?!?!

The previous model is far cheaper, so they're asking $150 for WiFi and NFC? That's a LOT of money.

Less than they are charging for the WiFi and Gps in the 6D WG over the 6D N

 

[tron]

I was going to defend this camera, and say how this is a cheap beginner's camera.

but:

"price of the Canon EOS Rebel T6 camera will be $549.99"

WTF?!?!?!?!?!

The previous model is far cheaper, so they're asking $150 for WiFi and NFC? That's a LOT of money.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1030209-REG/canon_9126b003_eos_a_rebel_t5_dslr.html

Canon EOS Rebel T5 DSLR Camera with 18-55mm Lens

Without instant savings which I am sure weren't offered from day 1 the price was 549!

EDIT: So it seems the new camera is initally offered 0.99$ more than its predecessor ;D ;D ;D

(OK I make the assumption from the above that the introductory price was the same as B&H price without
instant savings but this must be close to that)

 

[Nininini]

I was going to defend this camera, and say how this is a cheap beginner's camera.

but:

"price of the Canon EOS Rebel T6 camera will be $549.99"

WTF?!?!?!?!?!

The previous model is far cheaper, so they're asking $150 for WiFi and NFC? That's a LOT of money.

day 1 the price was 549!

Yes, and that was over 2 years ago, when those specs were still...somewhat ... competitive.

Is anyone really arguing with a straight face that this camera with garbage bin parts should be costing more than an A6000? I mean, come on now.

Get real Canon.

 

[pierlux]

It's a 7D classic with NFC

Sensor-wise it's most probably even better, but... AF, fps, wiewfinder, electronic level, mag alloy... I'll stop here.

Cute little baby, anyway. 15.52 oz. / 440g, i.e. 1.4 oz. / 40g less than the T5/1200D. Nice!

This is not even Canon's typical "gradual evolution" style of upgrading bodies...it is more like "de-volution"

Why? Apart from the MP count and a few other specs, the T6 advances in other features and introduces more. This puppy is aimed at beginners or at those already having a superior DSLR wanting/needing a low-cost backup / walkaround / wirelessly-connecting body. Price will drop soon. Do you see anybody owning a T5 "upgrading" to the T6? I don't. If you want more, you've got plenty of alternatives. I like it. Smart move, Canon!

 

[JohanCruyff]

Food mode! Finally a camera that makes toast and coffee.

Canon Engineers have anticipated that the new T7 (1400D) will be more politically correct and offer a "vegan food mode", a "fishetarian food mode" and maybe a "gluten-free food mode"!

 

[mrzero]

What's needed is an iPhone app that connects to the camera with NFC and lets you instagram/tweet your images in real time. If such an app doesn't already exist, that is.

Agreed. I think the problem is that Apple has locked down its NFC capabilities so that app developers cannot access them. Apple is reserving its NFC for ApplePay, and does not want developers to access the NFC for other apps (like GooglePay or what have you). Why this results in locking out photo transfers or other functions, I don't know.

 

[Loswr]

Is anyone really arguing with a straight face that this camera with garbage bin parts should be costing more than an A6000? I mean, come on now.

Seriously, yes. Do you grasp the fact that dSLRs outsell MILCs by 3:1 globally, and in the US that ratio is almost 5:1? Does it not make sense that Canon USA can charge more for a much more popular product, or conversely that Sony should charge less (offer deeper discounts) in an attempt to take sales away from more popular cameras? What did Canon USA have to do to sell the EOS M, which at the time was the second most popular camera in Japan?

As for 'charging a lot for WiFi and NFC' keep in mind that many (most?) of these cameras sold in the US will be bought from shelves in Walmart or Target or pallets in Costco. There won't be T5's next to the T6's for comparison.

Don't worry – if Canon misjudges, they'll slash the price (via discounts) to increase sales. Most new dSLR models have dropped in price after about 6-8 months, and in this case that puts a price drop at the start of the Xmas shopping season, basically a win-win. Oh, and a 3rd win is that by keeping list price high while offering discounts, they make more money on service when a camera breaks (since CUSA uses a flat charge based on MSRP for the product).

But I guess we've established that some people on CR Forums seem to think they know more about selling cameras than Canon, and it's hard to argue with omniscience. :

 

[biggiep]

I was going to defend this camera, and say how this is a cheap beginner's camera.

but:

"price of the Canon EOS Rebel T6 camera will be $549.99"

WTF?!?!?!?!?!

The previous model is far cheaper, so they're asking $150 for WiFi and NFC? That's a LOT of money.

Take a closer look at the screenshots you've been spamming the thread with.

You see that little thing called "list price" that's crossed out? What does that price say? $549.99. Wait, that's the same price they announced the T6 at! In fact, that's the same price they announced the T5 for too!

Now take a look at your A6000 screenshot. Crossed out list price: $648. Wait, that's what Sony announced the A6000 for when they released it!

Figure it out.

 

[kphoto99]

I was going to defend this camera, and say how this is a cheap beginner's camera.

but:

"price of the Canon EOS Rebel T6 camera will be $549.99"

WTF?!?!?!?!?!

The previous model is far cheaper, so they're asking $150 for WiFi and NFC? That's a LOT of money.

Take a closer look at the screenshots you've been spamming the thread with.

You see that little thing called "list price" that's crossed out? What does that price say? $549.99. Wait, that's the same price they announced the T6 at! In fact, that's the same price they announced the T5 for too!

Now take a look at your A6000 screenshot. Crossed out list price: $648. Wait, that's what Sony announced the A6000 for when they released it!

Figure it out.

There is one more difference, the T5 has an IS lens, the new T6 for $549 has a lens without IS, never mind none of them have STM.

 

[mrsfotografie]

I'll bet it sells well, even though there is no "cat mode"......even my P/S camera has "cat mode"..... seriously!

Awesome, I want 'cat mode' on the 5DMk IV! ;D

 

[slclick]

I was going to defend this camera, and say how this is a cheap beginner's camera.

but:

"price of the Canon EOS Rebel T6 camera will be $549.99"

WTF?!?!?!?!?!

The previous model is far cheaper, so they're asking $150 for WiFi and NFC? That's a LOT of money.

Take a closer look at the screenshots you've been spamming the thread with.

You see that little thing called "list price" that's crossed out? What does that price say? $549.99. Wait, that's the same price they announced the T6 at! In fact, that's the same price they announced the T5 for too!

Now take a look at your A6000 screenshot. Crossed out list price: $648. Wait, that's what Sony announced the A6000 for when they released it!

Figure it out.

There is one more difference, the T5 has an IS lens, the new T6 for $549 has a lens without IS, never mind none of them have STM.

I know it might be news to some but initial prices are almost always their zenith and given a few weeks if not months they always drop. No reason to freak out here, it's business as usual and business will be very good for Canon as always with entry level gear. WE are not the target audience so of course most here won't 'get it'.

 

[Loswr]

There is one more difference, the T5 has an IS lens, the new T6 for $549 has a lens without IS, never mind none of them have STM.

Errmmm...sorry, but no.

I understand that you're referring to the fact that some of the global press kit images show it with the EF 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 III lens, but that lens isn't even sold in the US as far as I'm aware. The USA kits all have the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II lens, e.g. Canon USA, Amazon, B&H, etc. (even though B&H screwed up by leading off with the wrong photo from the press kit, try reading the description).

 

[fegari]

Wow, the specs! this could easily be the best camera of 2008

 

[The Supplanter]

Why am I not surprised that Miss Negative Nini is complaining about the price of something... in an expensive hobby? Go figure :

Get a new hobby, Negative Nini.

 

[Nininini]

I was going to defend this camera, and say how this is a cheap beginner's camera.

but:

"price of the Canon EOS Rebel T6 camera will be $549.99"

WTF?!?!?!?!?!

The previous model is far cheaper, so they're asking $150 for WiFi and NFC? That's a LOT of money.

Take a closer look at the screenshots you've been spamming the thread with.

You see that little thing called "list price" that's crossed out? What does that price say? $549.99. Wait, that's the same price they announced the T6 at! In fact, that's the same price they announced the T5 for too!

Now take a look at your A6000 screenshot. Crossed out list price: $648. Wait, that's what Sony announced the A6000 for when they released it!

Figure it out.

People care about what cameras cost TODAY, not about what they were launched at 3 years ago!

That list price with those specs made sense 3 YEARS AGO...it does not make sense TODAY.

Imagine if the 1DX Mark II, its only upgrade was WiFi and NFC and it cost 30% more than the current 1DX. Would you still say it's fine? Of course not.

The idea that beginners photographers, or people on a budget, can't figure out there are better options, and that they will keep gullibly buying Canon Parts Bin cameras, is a very demeaning way to think about photographers...people can read spec sheets, people have information, people will realize this camera is not up to par.

 

[Nininini]

Why am I not surprised that Miss Negative Nini is complaining about the price of something

As if I'm the only person being negative about how Canon is treating beginners photographers by making $550 cameras from leftover parts.

This sensor is 7 years old.

Go look at the DPReview announcement of this camera, 90% of the replies are negative.

People defending this is like people defending Nokia when smartphones came out.

"People are still going to buy Nokia en masse, people don't care about specs, the average person only knows Nokia"

That ended well.

 

[kphoto99]

There is one more difference, the T5 has an IS lens, the new T6 for $549 has a lens without IS, never mind none of them have STM.

Errmmm...sorry, but no.

I understand that you're referring to the fact that some of the global press kit images show it with the EF 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 III lens, but that lens isn't even sold in the US as far as I'm aware. The USA kits all have the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II lens, e.g. Canon USA, Amazon, B&H, etc. (even though B&H screwed up by leading off with the wrong photo from the press kit, try reading the description).

Yes you are right that in the short spec list the IS is included, but in the long spec list B&H does not list that the kit lens has IS.

I don't know about US, but here is Canada Canon sells the T5 with the DC lens, especially in Walmart.
CanonCanada:
estore.canon.ca/shop/en-CA/catalog/cameras/eos-cameras--24/eos-rebel-t5-ef-s-18-55mm-dc-iii-kit
There is no listing for the T6 yet Canon's website, but at Henry's (a large Canadian camera store) you can find it with the DC lens:
http://www.henrys.com/93527-CANON-EOS-REBEL-T6-W-18-55-DC-III.aspx $50 less then the IS kit.

 

[Loswr]

Yes you are right that in the short spec list the IS is included, but in the long spec list B&H does not list that the kit lens has IS.

Care to try again?

 

[Loswr]

The idea that beginners photographers, or people on a budget, can't figure out there are better options, and that they will keep gullibly buying Canon Parts Bin cameras, is a very demeaning way to think about photographers...people can read spec sheets, people have information, people will realize this camera is not up to par.

Once again you demonstrate a top-noth misunderstanding of the target market.

People defending this is like people defending Nokia when smartphones came out.
"People are still going to buy Nokia en masse, people don't care about specs, the average person only knows Nokia"
That ended well.

YAPODFC. :