Canon EF 50 f/1.4 IS in 2013 [CR2]
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Jesse said:
The 85mm f/1.8 is like $300 used, I wouldn't let a lens that's going to cost 3x that (and who knows when it will be released) stop you from picking it up. Get the 85, it's a stellar lens (one of the highest rated on DxO period) and you'll have no trouble selling it if you want to upgrade in the future.
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Please no. It's not that I wouldn't want IS on a lens, but what about the many customers Canon has that want a 50mm f/1.4 lens that don't want to spend $900+ for a non L lens. If Canon made a non IS & and IS version then awesome, but if I had to choose, i'd say give me IS on my zooms and no IS on my wide primes. Typically, if I am shooting landscapes or other non moving or slow moving objects to want IS, i'm not shooting at f/1.4 or shooting way wider than 50mm. Most of my 50mm f/1.4 work would be portraits. Other than detail shots at a wedding maybe, I have never wanted IS on a 50mm because my subject is always moving. I've longed for it on my 24-70 though since I use that for landscape style shots and love it on my 70-200 since at 200mm, IS is a must the way my hands shake. But on my 50mm, I want around 1/100th of a second shutter in almost all cases anyway that I use this lens for so who needs IS. I guess for video the 50mm IS would be awesome.
IS is great for handheld video, landscapes (or other still objects), and telephoto lenses. The 50mm f/1.4 doesn't really fit any of these except video.
IS is great for handheld video, landscapes (or other still objects), and telephoto lenses. The 50mm f/1.4 doesn't really fit any of these except video.
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<strong>More non-L primes coming
</strong>Expect to see a new EF 50 f/1.4 IS sometime in 2013. There have been variations of a replacement for the very old (1993) EF 50 f/1.4 and it sounds like a 1.4 IS variant is going to be the winner. We have also heard of an f/1.8 IS version existing. Don’t expect such a lens to be much less than the $800 that the EF 24 f/2.8 IS, EF 28 f/2.8 IS and EF 35 f/2 IS all approximately cost.</p>
<p>The EF 85 f/1.8 is also in the works with an IS version we’re told. I haven’t heard anything about the very good EF 100 f/2 getting a replacement.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href=\"http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_new_lenses.html\" target=\"_blank\">NL</a>]</p>
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Sounds like music to my ears. Hopefully, I will pre-order it the day it is available.
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I've always thought these wide lenses with IS were for stabilized video, but honestly my shaky hands need all the help they can get. If the 24-70/2.8 II and the 24-70/4 IS had a /f.28 IS baby I'd be more tempted to go full frame, but for now I'm clinging to the IS on my 17-55/2.8.
Also, is the price really that high? IS puts a $300-400 premium on the lens. Add an upgraded ring-type USM and optics on top of the existing $300-400 price and it doesn't seem exorbitant. I'd also hope for environmental sealing, but if it's not "L" it's less likely.
Also, is the price really that high? IS puts a $300-400 premium on the lens. Add an upgraded ring-type USM and optics on top of the existing $300-400 price and it doesn't seem exorbitant. I'd also hope for environmental sealing, but if it's not "L" it's less likely.
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I think retail on the original 50mm f/1.4 was like $500ish, so, assuming this is priced around the same as the 24/28/35 IS lenses, its really only a $300 increase (right in line inflation wise). And that's for what would presumably be an increase in USM, IS, and optics.curby said:
Why are you assuming $900+? $799 and $849 have been the new prices on the lenses so far, and I imagine by about this time next year, the street price would be sub-$800 easily. Heck, the $200 40mm lens is already going at 25% off regularly. Seems Canon is being more aggressive with their early adopters premium.dswatson83 said:
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infared said:Pixelsign said:this will be a great lens but the price... you even get the mighty 100mm 2.8 !L! lens for less. 50mm lenses have a simple construction and shouldn't be that pricy
Huh? the Canon 100mm 2.8 L is $900???????
The new 50mm IS should be around $700 or $800. I guess the way Canon is pricing lately it could be more at introduction...ya never know.
Looking at the other new primes, under $800 is a pipe dream.. If it stays at 1.4 and has IS, i'd suspect it will be just shy of $900. If its a 1.8 or a 2.0, then it may be under $800. But not if its as fast as 1.4
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Axilrod said:
Gotta agree here +100. The 85 1.8 rocks. Get it now, just do it, don't think - go to the retailer of your choice and snag it!!!! Who knows when the update will even be available, and yeah, it's going to double at least in cost. So go get the 1.8 now, you will be pleased!!!!!!
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I'd say there is a decent chance that an updated 50 1.4 could outperform the 50L at f/1.4. This is based off reviews of the 24 IS, 28 IS and 40mm f/2.8 STM. Those lenses are really performing well (especially considering their price) compared to the other lenses in Canon's lineup ahead of them (24mm f/1.4L, 28mm f/1.8, 35mm f/1.4L) and the lenses they replace ( 24mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2.8 ). I'd expect the 35mm f/2 IS to perform just as well when they start shipping.Dylan777 said:f1.4 IS????? WOW.....should I cancel my 50L that I ordered yesterday ::
24mm f/1.4L vs. 24mm f/2.8 IS ( both at f/2.8 ):
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24mm f/1.4L vs. 28mm f/2.8 IS ( both at f/2.8 ):
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28mm f/1.8 USM vs. 28mm f/2.8 IS ( both at f/2.8 ):
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35mm f/2 vs. 28mm f/2.8 IS ( both at f/2.8 ):
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35mm f/1.4L vs. 28mm f/2.8 IS ( both at f/2.8 ):
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35mm f/1.4L vs. 40mm f/2.8 STM ( both at f/2.8 ):
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Heck, the current f/1.4 isn't far behind the 50L as is:
Wide Open | f/1.4 | f/2 | f/2.8 | f/4 | f/5.6
I'd go so far as to say that the f/1.4 beats the L in apertures f/2.8 and smaller, based on those comparisons. Wide open and f/2 seem like draws to me, and at f/1.4 the L is narrowly ahead. I'd say when the new 50mm f/1.4 comes out, Canon will have a hard time selling the L. I would expect the L to be replaced shortly thereafter (with the obvious Canon price increase).
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if this is a f1.4 with IS I suspect price to be much closer to the 50L than the newer IS primes. Then Canon will line up a 50L replacement at or above 85L ii pricing. Heck maybe they just add the red ring to it and price it that way from the beginning
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Eh, I'd say the 50mm f/1.4 was already doing that anyway. Pro's who need that specific look went for the L (and still will), but pretty much everyone else was going for the f/1.4 (or the Sigma, etc) because you could have 3 of them for the price of the L, and because they performed about the same from f/1.8 onpwp said:
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Random Orbits said:Dylan777 said:f1.4 IS????? WOW.....should I cancel my 50L that I ordered yesterday :
Maybe this will push Canon to deliver a 50L II soon. I can't see Canon killing a L lens like this and the recent lens designs are much better than before.
Current 50L is not that old....i doubt we'll see 50L II anytime soon. However, if the rumor 50 is sharp at f1.4, I might not need current 50L.....but then again this is CR2 and when will this lens be on the market is another topic to discuss
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KyleSTL said:I'd say there is a decent chance that an updated 50 1.4 could outperform the 50L at f/1.4. This is based off reviews of the 24 IS, 28 IS and 40mm f/2.8 STM. Those lenses are really performing well (especially considering their price) compared to the other lenses in Canon's lineup ahead of them (24mm f/1.4L, 28mm f/1.8, 35mm f/1.4L) and the lenses they replace ( 24mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2.8 ). I'd expect the 35mm f/2 IS to perform just as well when they start shipping.Dylan777 said:f1.4 IS????? WOW.....should I cancel my 50L that I ordered yesterday :
24mm f/1.4L vs. 24mm f/2.8 IS ( both at f/2.8 ):
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24mm f/1.4L vs. 28mm f/2.8 IS ( both at f/2.8 ):
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28mm f/1.8 USM vs. 28mm f/2.8 IS ( both at f/2.8 ):
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35mm f/2 vs. 28mm f/2.8 IS ( both at f/2.8 ):
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35mm f/1.4L vs. 28mm f/2.8 IS ( both at f/2.8 ):
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35mm f/1.4L vs. 40mm f/2.8 STM ( both at f/2.8 ):
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Heck, the current f/1.4 isn't far behind the 50L as is:
Wide Open | f/1.4 | f/2 | f/2.8 | f/4 | f/5.6
I'd go so far as to say that the f/1.4 beats the L in apertures f/2.8 and smaller, based on those comparisons. Wide open and f/2 seem like draws to me, and at f/1.4 the L is narrowly ahead. I'd say when the new 50mm f/1.4 comes out, Canon will have a hard time selling the L. I would expect the L to be replaced shortly thereafter (with the obvious Canon price increase).
I hope you right.....I'm willing to spend up to $2100 for 50L II if there is no focus shift.
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I love that Canon puts IS in all their glass now, well, not all (read: 24-70 mk2) but I have always said I could really use IS in all my lenses. And I can 100% gurantee a new 50 f1,4 will be sharper with better corners than the current 50 L.
And that is great news, I love the 50 L more than any other lens, and I have had a few ;D BUT, I do not love it for the sharpness and being serioouusly soft closer than 1 meter so I could surley use and update, and yes it isn't very old, but a lot has happened, and it should have been better in 2006 also.
But to have 800$ 50 f1,4 lacking only weather sealing over the 2100$ 50 L is going to kill it off anyway. So a new 50 L II within two years isn't THAT crazy...
And that is great news, I love the 50 L more than any other lens, and I have had a few ;D BUT, I do not love it for the sharpness and being serioouusly soft closer than 1 meter so I could surley use and update, and yes it isn't very old, but a lot has happened, and it should have been better in 2006 also.
But to have 800$ 50 f1,4 lacking only weather sealing over the 2100$ 50 L is going to kill it off anyway. So a new 50 L II within two years isn't THAT crazy...
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Very sceptical on current form - I'm thinking more like a 50mm f1.8 IS is more likely, sharp at f1.8, priced at about £600 retail, with an 85mm f2.0 IS at a similar price in the new style lens package seen on the 24/28/35mm lenses and a trio "cheapo" 35mm, 50mm & 85mm f2.8 non IS for £200 retail each in a build package not too dissimilar to a 18-55mm kit lens.
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That's the first prediction of that happening that I have heard. I think that is unlikely, but who knows, only time will tell. There are a number of other lenses (at much higher pricepoints and margins) that Canon is more likely to produce [or replace], as well as cameras in need of replacement (most glaringly, the 2009-like spec'd EOS T3/1100D).Haydn1971 said:
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If by any means the image quality is comparable to their new 35mm IS, I know a guy who will definitely get that asap.
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