Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specification List [CR1]

Taking this with a hefty grain of salt. Seems like an odd rumor, given the specs increase is minimal across the board. The 5D III brought more to the table, including a significantly improved AF system and much improved high ISO capabilities, among many other improvements and benefits.

This specs list is...incredibly bland. Either Canon is EXTREMELY confident in their customer loyalty, or this is someone's old 5D III wishlist relabeled "5D IV"...
 
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pierlux said:
Add:
  • GPS
  • An unspecified number of f/8 AF points (probably)
  • Less weight (rumored)
  • AF area selector (probably)
  • The return of illuminated AF points (rumored)
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I don't get the AF area selector idea. I put that feature on the little thumb stick of the Mark 3 and can easily select my AF points already when in shooting mode.
 
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timcz said:
I too want d810 level specs but I know it won't happen mp wise because of all the wedding togs that will likely benefit more from this when canon are prob pointing the landscapers like me to the 5ds (which is a great camera).

I think you hit the nail on the head. Canon is catering to wedding and high volume portrait shooters with the 5D series (less the 5DS/R). They dont want the mpix and they dont need very high fps. They do burn through bodies and buy more. The 5DSR is the start of a new line to run parrallel to the standard 5D series. This 5DS/R parrallel line will cater more to landscape, architecture, etc - mini medium format type camera.
 
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dilbert said:
jrista said:
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This specs list is...incredibly bland. Either Canon is EXTREMELY confident in their customer loyalty, or this is someone's old 5D III wishlist relabeled "5D IV"...

The specs list of the 5DIII is rather bland when put up next to the 5DII.

Do you see some kind of pattern here?

The 5D3 was (and still is) nearly perfect for me, improving on everything I wanted improved in the 5D2. These cameras meet my needs so well that small ("bland") improvements are fine. If you start off with something that's nearly perfect, there's no need for big changes.
 
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millsrg1 said:
Just give me a dang FLIPPY TOUCHSCREEN. Landscapes, astrophotography, architecture and any other low angle shooting is such a pain in the ass without it. Never understood why this feature won't break into the professional cameras, its so simple. The durability argument is BS. Just because it seems gimmicky doesn't make it an amateur feature, it's extremely freaking convenient. when this thing launches that little screen better flip out or I'm taking a dump in a box and shipping it to Japan.

Couldn't agree more. But on the 5DIV? Sadly unlikely. We're more likely to see these features on the 6DII some time in 2017. I got a Panasonic GH4 when they first shipped, primarily to shoot video. It has a totally brilliant and highly functional flippy touchscreen. It just makes such perfect sense. The naysayers have probably never used a properly resolved touchscreen.

-pw
 
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Refurb7 said:
dilbert said:
jrista said:
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This specs list is...incredibly bland. Either Canon is EXTREMELY confident in their customer loyalty, or this is someone's old 5D III wishlist relabeled "5D IV"...

The specs list of the 5DIII is rather bland when put up next to the 5DII.

Do you see some kind of pattern here?

The 5D3 was (and still is) nearly perfect for me, improving on everything I wanted improved in the 5D2. These cameras meet my needs so well that small ("bland") improvements are fine. If you start off with something that's nearly perfect, there's no need for big changes.
Nearly perfect? Eye of the beholder I guess. There is always room for improvement with everything and thats what drives innovation.
 
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pierlux said:
slclick said:
pierlux said:
About the rumored new battery, I think we should not dress our head before having broken it. Compatibility with LP-E6/6n is possible, so let's wait for more substantial information before complaining.

About CFast, I've just checked how much I paid for a SanDisk Extreme IV 8 GB UDMA in late 2008: 144 Euros! But I wanted to try out the video capabilities of my 5D II, so I bought it anyway. A few months later, UDMA cards dropped to 1/4 of their launch price. CFast are going to be no exception, as soon as their sales skyrocket, the price will drop greatly.

CFast/CF makes much more sense. My SD slot stays empty.

If they could accomodate that configuration in a 5D body, Canon would have probably already done it with dual CF in the Mark III.

Canon know the vast majority of us would prefer the CFast/CF option - myself in primis; since I don't believe they're driven by either masochistic or sadistic intent I think if they can, they'll do it. I'm afraid they can't, unfortunately. But, who knows, 5D II was single card, the more they shrink the parts inside the body, the more room they make for what can't be shrunk, such as cards, so, maybe...

I am sure they could accomodate for that. I'm conviced the SD option is a choice they make. I would prefer CFast/CF too for the 5 series. And i think CFast/CFast would be best for the 1 series.
 
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millsrg1 said:
Just give me a dang FLIPPY TOUCHSCREEN. Landscapes, astrophotography, architecture and any other low angle shooting is such a pain in the ass without it. Never understood why this feature won't break into the professional cameras, its so simple. The durability argument is BS. Just because it seems gimmicky doesn't make it an amateur feature, it's extremely freaking convenient. when this thing launches that little screen better flip out or I'm taking a dump in a box and shipping it to Japan.

You'll be disappointed. Good for me! I hate flippy screens...
 
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romanr74 said:
pierlux said:
slclick said:
pierlux said:
About the rumored new battery, I think we should not dress our head before having broken it. Compatibility with LP-E6/6n is possible, so let's wait for more substantial information before complaining.

About CFast, I've just checked how much I paid for a SanDisk Extreme IV 8 GB UDMA in late 2008: 144 Euros! But I wanted to try out the video capabilities of my 5D II, so I bought it anyway. A few months later, UDMA cards dropped to 1/4 of their launch price. CFast are going to be no exception, as soon as their sales skyrocket, the price will drop greatly.

CFast/CF makes much more sense. My SD slot stays empty.

If they could accomodate that configuration in a 5D body, Canon would have probably already done it with dual CF in the Mark III.

Canon know the vast majority of us would prefer the CFast/CF option - myself in primis; since I don't believe they're driven by either masochistic or sadistic intent I think if they can, they'll do it. I'm afraid they can't, unfortunately. But, who knows, 5D II was single card, the more they shrink the parts inside the body, the more room they make for what can't be shrunk, such as cards, so, maybe...

I am sure they could accomodate for that. I'm conviced the SD option is a choice they make. I would prefer CFast/CF too for the 5 series. And i think CFast/CFast would be best for the 1 series.

Since I am not a pro I have quit using the SD card in my 5D Mark III. I get a much deeper buffer that way. I'd be suprized to see an SD card in the 5D Mark IV/DX.
 
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romanr74 said:
pierlux said:
slclick said:
pierlux said:
About the rumored new battery, I think we should not dress our head before having broken it. Compatibility with LP-E6/6n is possible, so let's wait for more substantial information before complaining.

About CFast, I've just checked how much I paid for a SanDisk Extreme IV 8 GB UDMA in late 2008: 144 Euros! But I wanted to try out the video capabilities of my 5D II, so I bought it anyway. A few months later, UDMA cards dropped to 1/4 of their launch price. CFast are going to be no exception, as soon as their sales skyrocket, the price will drop greatly.

CFast/CF makes much more sense. My SD slot stays empty.

If they could accomodate that configuration in a 5D body, Canon would have probably already done it with dual CF in the Mark III.

Canon know the vast majority of us would prefer the CFast/CF option - myself in primis; since I don't believe they're driven by either masochistic or sadistic intent I think if they can, they'll do it. I'm afraid they can't, unfortunately. But, who knows, 5D II was single card, the more they shrink the parts inside the body, the more room they make for what can't be shrunk, such as cards, so, maybe...

I am sure they could accomodate for that. I'm conviced the SD option is a choice they make. I would prefer CFast/CF too for the 5 series. And i think CFast/CFast would be best for the 1 series.

The five series is a crossover between "pro" and "enthusiast". Not accomodaing the SDs would make the MF lose custumers.
 
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pierlux said:
slclick said:
If correct, time to buy new cards and batteries (for some), still, only a CR1

Only a CR1, but given a specific naming has been indicated for both the BG and battery I tend to believe it's a pretty reliable rumor. The other specs appear consistent.

I had hypothesized a slight decrease in price at launch similarly to the 1DX > 1DX II, now I'm hesitant... touchscreen, wi-fi, cfast which means probably 4k...

I predict... 20 pages of comments in 48h, ha ha! ;D

What does CR1 mean? I'm new here.

I think they'll put the price between its predecessor and 5DS. Still acceptable for some or even for many, only if they just cut the FPS from the 1DX II and bring the rest to the 5D4 :D
 
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M_S said:
pierlux said:
Add:
  • GPS
  • An unspecified number of f/8 AF points (probably)
  • Less weight (rumored)
  • AF area selector (probably)
  • The return of illuminated AF points (rumored)
...

I don't get the AF area selector idea. I put that feature on the little thumb stick of the Mark 3 and can easily select my AF points already when in shooting mode.

Have you used a 7DII? The AF Area lever around the joystick allows direct selection of AF point selection mode – single point, spot, zone, all-61 auto, etc. Quite handy to have that right next to the point selector, vs. pressing the button then using the main dial.
 
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If these specs are true, I'm a little surprised at how conservative they are as an upgrade. 1 extra fps and 2 more MP....that's really quite a begrudging upgrade when we know that the single Digic 7 is easily good for 28mp at 8 fps. I dare say that Canon will try to release this camera at £3000 UKP like the 5DIII and will see very poor sales for the first year as a consequence.
The 5D was a game changer....no one made an economic full frame digital camera. The 5DII was a revolutionary camera that combined live view and movie mode in a full frame camera. The 5DIII was quite a revolutionary camera in that it changed the 5D genre into a professionally featured camera and pretty much made it the most versatile camera in production. The 5D4 looks like another 20D>30D brain fart from Canon. There really doesn't seem to be anything revolutionary or innovative about it. New features that will not really help me much (gps???...great every web nerd can go and steal my landscape locations) and a very mild warm over in the features that do matter to me.

I guess this is what happens when Nikon drop their ball and stop being a challenge to Canon.
 
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OMG let's admit, this couldn't be more boring :(
24MP?!?! Should be somewhere between 28-36MP!
Where is the development here??? The touchscreen? ;))
I would be open to ANY kind of innovation...OK, no more pixels...then let's have a 20-30% size/weight reduction to see that Canon has realized the potential of the incredibly successful Sony A7 series.

I simply don't see a reason to upgrade from mk3. Maybe if mk4 has some asskicking noise levels but I doubt that.
 
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M_S said:
pierlux said:
Add:
  • GPS
  • An unspecified number of f/8 AF points (probably)
  • Less weight (rumored)
  • AF area selector (probably)
  • The return of illuminated AF points (rumored)
...

I don't get the AF area selector idea. I put that feature on the little thumb stick of the Mark 3 and can easily select my AF points already when in shooting mode.

It's so much convenient in the 7D II... once you get used to it you wouldn't renounce this feature. Plus, it's one more hard control on the back (and on the battery grip), so you have more customization options.

Of course I'm not sure at all Canon will introduce it on the 5D IV, but it's an all-rounder camera often used for sport/wildlife, it would be a nice addition, IMHO.
 
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romanr74 said:
millsrg1 said:
Just give me a dang FLIPPY TOUCHSCREEN. Landscapes, astrophotography, architecture and any other low angle shooting is such a pain in the ass without it. Never understood why this feature won't break into the professional cameras, its so simple. The durability argument is BS. Just because it seems gimmicky doesn't make it an amateur feature, it's extremely freaking convenient. when this thing launches that little screen better flip out or I'm taking a dump in a box and shipping it to Japan.

You'll be disappointed. Good for me! I hate flippy screens...

+1 Same here...

I was quite amused. Even Fuji X-trans based cams show the rule... if you call it X-"PRO" it has no flappy screen ;)
 
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Looks good to me. Even if this isn't real, it's hard to imagine that it isn't close to the real thing.

Also unsurprising is the amount of negativity here. But it's not like +1 FPS and +2 MP are the only things going for it over the Mark III. It will have better dynamic range, like the 80D and 1D X II, which is supposedly a massive failing of previous Canons. High ISO performance will also improve, but it won't be as good as the 1D X II. Autofocus will be better, and it's hilarious to see people criticising "61 AF Points (41 crosstype)" as inadequate, given that these are the exact same specifications as the 1D X II.

I would prefer it to be 8 FPS, but this is mostly because I like the number eight more than seven.

Moving to CFast all but confirms 4K. The higher speed would be good for 4K recording, but I'm pretty sure that it's not needed for still shooting. The only other reason for CFast would be because Canon thinks it's the way of the future and they want to make it standard amongst their pro bodies, but this seems less likely to me.
 
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