Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specification List [CR1]

[davidj]

It would be neat if Canon offered each body with a handful of different sensor sizes (i.e., 18, 24, 28, 36 and 50 MP, with varying high ISO and FPS performance), like how iPhones come with different memory options. I'm not sure how possible this would be from an engineering (or economic) standpoint, but it would save people from arguing about how 24 MP isn't enough, as though Canon aren't able to make a 28 MP sensor.

 

[pierlux]

What does CR1 mean? I'm new here.

It's simply a way of allocating a "reliability rating" to rumors, depending on the source the rumor comes from. The higher the number, the more reliable the source and therefore the rumor.

 

[-1]

It would be neat if Canon offered each body with a handful of different sensor sizes (i.e., 18, 24, 28, 36 and 50 MP, with varying high ISO and FPS performance), like how iPhones come with different memory options. I'm not sure how possible this would be from an engineering (or economic) standpoint, but it would save people from arguing about how 24 MP isn't enough, as though Canon aren't able to make a 28 MP sensor.

If Canon do want the 5D4 have a pixel count between the 1DX2 and 5Dsr then e**(ln50-ln20)/2+ln20) ~ 33MP .

 

[Fatalv]

Here's to hoping the rumor is wrong since it's CR1.

As a 5DMK3 and 7D owner I see absolutely no reason to upgrade. I'm sure it will be a great camera, but it's basically $3500 for +1fps, +1 stop ISO, +2MP, lose CF ability/stash of existing cards, shell out more $$ for CFast, lose plethora of LP-E6 Batteries, lose LP-E6 AC adaptor.

 

[davidj]

If Canon do want the 5D4 have a pixel count between the 1DX2 and 5Dsr then e**(ln50-ln20)/2+ln20) ~ 33MP .

Coincidentally, a 33.2 MP sensor is what you need for native 8K video or 4K with 2x2 pixel binning. I like the sound of that.

 

[-1]

If Canon do want the 5D4 have a pixel count between the 1DX2 and 5Dsr then e**(ln50-ln20)/2+ln20) ~ 33MP .

Coincidentally, a 33.2 MP sensor is what you need for native 8K video or 4K with 2x2 pixel binning. I like the sound of that.

Too good for a fiver then, maybe for the 1Dc2...

 

[j-nord]

If Canon do want the 5D4 have a pixel count between the 1DX2 and 5Dsr then e**(ln50-ln20)/2+ln20) ~ 33MP .

Coincidentally, a 33.2 MP sensor is what you need for native 8K video or 4K with 2x2 pixel binning. I like the sound of that.

That sounds like the kind of advancement/future proofing attribute about half of us are keen to see. The other half seems fine with a very minor across the board bump. Only time will tell what Canon does.

 

[j-nord]

If Canon do want the 5D4 have a pixel count between the 1DX2 and 5Dsr then e**(ln50-ln20)/2+ln20) ~ 33MP .

Coincidentally, a 33.2 MP sensor is what you need for native 8K video or 4K with 2x2 pixel binning. I like the sound of that.

Too good for a fiver then, maybe for the 1Dc2...

Weren't the video capabilities of the 5DIII ahead of the market? If Canon is indeed heavily targeting the wedding market with the 5D series then advanced 4K features and capabilities would be very attractive.

 

[davidj]

Coincidentally, a 33.2 MP sensor is what you need for native 8K video or 4K with 2x2 pixel binning. I like the sound of that.

Too good for a fiver then, maybe for the 1Dc2...

There was a rumour that the 5D IV would have video features targeted towards filmmakers (as opposed to photojournalists), and high quality full frame 4K is something that I'd be more than happy to see if I was a filmmaker...

Coincidentally, a 33.2 MP sensor is what you need for native 8K video or 4K with 2x2 pixel binning. I like the sound of that.

That sounds like the kind of advancement/future proofing attribute about half of us are keen to see. The other half seems fine with a very minor across the board bump. Only time will tell what Canon does.

The thing about higher pixel counts is that they're not without trade-offs. I, for one, am glad that I can fit more photos on a memory card and that my photos folder on my computer isn't 50% larger than it is. It's not like Canon can't do a higher resolution sensor at this price point, but they have to weigh the pros and cons for all the different types of photographers who use it. It probably makes more sense for them to make a camera that is basically the same but better in every way, rather than changing the type of camera it is (and having a bunch of people saying "too many pixels").

 

[100]

If Canon do want the 5D4 have a pixel count between the 1DX2 and 5Dsr then e**(ln50-ln20)/2+ln20) ~ 33MP .

Coincidentally, a 33.2 MP sensor is what you need for native 8K video or 4K with 2x2 pixel binning. I like the sound of that.

8k = 8192 pixels wide
With a 3:2 format sensor it will be 8192 by 5462 pixels, so you need a 44.7mp sensor for 8k
Even if it’s not true 8k but only 8k UHD it will be 7680 by 5120 and that is 39.3mp

 

[davidj]

Coincidentally, a 33.2 MP sensor is what you need for native 8K video or 4K with 2x2 pixel binning. I like the sound of that.

8k = 8192 pixels wide
With a 3:2 format sensor it will be 8192 by 5462 pixels, so you need a 44.7mp sensor for 8k
Even if it’s not true 8k but only 8k UHD it will be 7680 by 5120 and that is 39.3mp

Oh, yeah. Oops. I normally know that film aspect ratios are different to photography ones.

At least this means there isn't a good reason to go for this higher MP count for the sake of better video.

 

[Loswr]

If Canon do want the 5D4 have a pixel count between the 1DX2 and 5Dsr then e**(ln50-ln20)/2+ln20) ~ 33MP .

Coincidentally, a 33.2 MP sensor is what you need for native 8K video or 4K with 2x2 pixel binning. I like the sound of that.

That sounds like the kind of advancement/future proofing attribute about half of us are keen to see. The other half seems fine with a very minor across the board bump. Only time will tell what Canon does.

Some of those anticipating a 'very minor across the board bump' aren't necessarily fine with it, but recognize the reality of the likelihood.

I saw nothing compelling in the 1D X II compared to the 1D X, so I don't plan to upgrade. Unlike some on this forum, I don't delude myself into thinking that Canon cares what I do or think.

 

[slclick]

If Canon do want the 5D4 have a pixel count between the 1DX2 and 5Dsr then e**(ln50-ln20)/2+ln20) ~ 33MP .

Coincidentally, a 33.2 MP sensor is what you need for native 8K video or 4K with 2x2 pixel binning. I like the sound of that.

That sounds like the kind of advancement/future proofing attribute about half of us are keen to see. The other half seems fine with a very minor across the board bump. Only time will tell what Canon does.

Some of those anticipating a 'very minor across the board bump' aren't necessarily fine with it, but recognize the reality of the likelihood.

I saw nothing compelling in the 1D X II compared to the 1D X, so I don't plan to upgrade. Unlike some on this forum, I don't delude myself into thinking that Canon cares what I do or think.

And to add my 2 cents, as a 5D3 user I see no reason to upgrade even if they add a Saeco espresso dispenser. (Ok well I would if that happened) but I just chime in because I'm in that incremental camp of realism as well. Now, I'm waiting for the Mk4 update to potentially help me judge what the 6D2 will be getting in trickle theory so I can once again have a 2nd body (with focusing screen and macro friendly flippy screen)

 

[bdunbar79]

I'm surprised people are so fixated on the MP count and not including the new sensor architecture. Even if it is a modest bump in MP it's a huge bump in sensor architecture.

 

[davidj]

I'm surprised people are so fixated on the MP count and not including the new sensor architecture. Even if it is a modest bump in MP it's a huge bump in sensor architecture.

Because Canon is obviously behind somehow, but it seems that Canon have sorted out their low ISO dynamic range issues.

 

[vangelismm]

Still no dual slot? Like CF+CF or SD+SD?

 

[100]

Coincidentally, a 33.2 MP sensor is what you need for native 8K video or 4K with 2x2 pixel binning. I like the sound of that.

8k = 8192 pixels wide
With a 3:2 format sensor it will be 8192 by 5462 pixels, so you need a 44.7mp sensor for 8k
Even if it’s not true 8k but only 8k UHD it will be 7680 by 5120 and that is 39.3mp

Oh, yeah. Oops. I normally know that film aspect ratios are different to photography ones.

At least this means there isn't a good reason to go for this higher MP count for the sake of better video.

If it’s a video orientated camera 39.3mp would be nice though, but personally I think it’s too close to the 5DS/R and I doubt we’re commercially at the level where a 39mp sensor can do output speeds of 30 or 60 frames per second of the entire sensor. So I expect a lower pixel count. It could very well be 24mp but if that’s the case the sensor and other features need to have substantial improvements if they want people to upgrade from a 5DIII.

 

[ahsanford]

I'm curious to see what else -- not listed in the spec rumor -- we will see.

The 70D gave us DPAF. I don't think anyone was expecting that.

The 7D2 gave us that nice AF selector knob, anti-flicker mode. Both were pleasant surprises.

I'm curious to see what makes the 5D4 that isn't a 'horsepower' spec (MP / burst / AF / sensor) that wows us.

- A

 

[JoeDavid]

I'm surprised people are so fixated on the MP count and not including the new sensor architecture. Even if it is a modest bump in MP it's a huge bump in sensor architecture.

Maybe, but that rumor didn't give any sensor details. I agree with you if the sensor has DPAF and on-sensor A/D conversion to improve DR. It will be interesting to see if they include UHD video, not the DCI 4K that is in the 1DXM2. I'm guessing they will but at a max of 30FPS.

 

[awinphoto]

Dunno... with those specs, my 5d3 still smells like a rose... and is still working just fine...