Canon EOS 5D Mark IV to be Announced August 25, 2016 [CR3]

[adventureous]

I will hold off on a purchase until we see real world images. I have heard when shown the same photo taken under "normal" conditions, most people can't tell the difference between a 5D2 and 5D3. Since I don't get paid to shoot sports or low light events, that is the reason I did not get the 5D3, can't tell a difference in image quality. Now under the same conditions if there is a noticeable difference in image quality between the 5D3 and 5D4, I will get the 5D4. I need a new body as mine has higher clicks and acts up sometimes, but if there is no noticeable difference between the 5D3 and 5D4 image quality, I will get a grey market 5D3 and install magic lantern, and spend the rest on better glass such as a Zeiss 135 or Canon 135 for about the same price as 5D4, knowing then I will get a noticeable difference in image quality. Since the 5D2 and 5D3 produce similar still images and are bulletproof for me, the image quality is where I want improvement. My customers don't want image improvement, I do.

 

[AdamBotond]

Can't wait! Probably the most anticipated Canon rig in years! For me it is, at least.
Too bad they have scheduled the release to August as I won't have enough time to get one for the deer rut in September. Releasing in April would have been just better for most of us I guess.
Anyway, the upcoming 5D IV will be decisive for my invests, as well. If that rig rocks, I will step up from my 6D, if its just a minor step up over the 5D III, I will rather invest in fast telephoto glass.
Waiting more than a month for the annoucement will be tough, that's for sure!

 

[YuengLinger]

I don't know what it is, but I love the IS refresh lenses and that 24-70 f/4L IS. I guess I dig less popular lenses.

- A

Me, too. Bought the 35/2 IS and fell in love with it. Give me more money and the other ones are mine, too.
And definitly, if Canon was making "your" 50/1.x IS I'd be in the crowd for getting it as well. (Still I belive, they won't, but I'd also like a 50/1.4 w/o IS)

But a f4 zoom must deliver more reach than 70 mm. So here I was always with the 24-105.

Maximillian, I think you summed it up exactly--if we sacrifice the f/stop, the added versatility of extra reach is necessary. And the fact that a great natural light event/photojournalism standard (for both Canon and Nikon) such as the 24-70mm 2.8 would have an identical focal length but at f/4 just made most potential buyers scratch their heads and look at either the 2.8 or the 24-105.

I've never accepted the argument that f/4 is the new f/2.8 because of better high ISO performance. (Or a need to just accept lower production costs? What stinkin' thinkin'.)

 

[thepancakeman]

It's probably got a number of features never seen on a Canon 5D Mark IV previously.

Not only that, but it will be the single greatest camera that Canon has ever released in August of 2016!

 

[YuengLinger]

I will hold off on a purchase until we see real world images. I have heard when shown the same photo taken under "normal" conditions, most people can't tell the difference between a 5D2 and 5D3. Since I don't get paid to shoot sports or low light events, that is the reason I did not get the 5D3, can't tell a difference in image quality. Now under the same conditions if there is a noticeable difference in image quality between the 5D3 and 5D4, I will get the 5D4. I need a new body as mine has higher clicks and acts up sometimes, but if there is no noticeable difference between the 5D3 and 5D4 image quality, I will get a grey market 5D3 and install magic lantern, and spend the rest on better glass such as a Zeiss 135 or Canon 135 for about the same price as 5D4, knowing then I will get a noticeable difference in image quality. Since the 5D2 and 5D3 produce similar still images and are bulletproof for me, the image quality is where I want improvement. My customers don't want image improvement, I do.

What about the 5DIII's improved AF, which allowed more keepers, more flexible composition, and more action shots possible? If none of that matters, as is true for many still-life and controlled formal portrait images, you remind us of how good 5DII still is.

 

[unfocused]

My question is this: why did they even make the 24-70 f/4L IS, that great macro mode, etc. if you are effectively going to obsolete that lens with a new 24-105L?

It's the equivalent of a 18-55 EF-S lens. It will be the discounted lens for basic kits for the 6DII and probably for the 5D line as well. Expect to pay a premium for the new 24-105mm lens in a kit.

 

[tonccy]

I will by one if:
- it has much better DR
- 4k video with best continous auto focus (following faces)
or I will buy sony video camera 4k

 

[unfocused]

I will hold off on a purchase until we see real world images. I have heard when shown the same photo taken under "normal" conditions, most people can't tell the difference between a 5D2 and 5D3...that is the reason I did not get the 5D3, can't tell a difference in image quality. Now under the same conditions if there is a noticeable difference in image quality between the 5D3 and 5D4, I will get the 5D4.

It's unrealistic to expect the see any difference under "normal" conditions. Under "normal" conditions, it's not even possible to tell the difference between say, a T3i and a 1D x.

The differences come at the margins, in post-processing and in handling and use. If you have no use for ISO above 400, no use for fast autofocus, no use for slightly improved shadow and highlight detail, no use for ergonomics, no use for weathersealing, etc., then there really is no reason to upgrade.

Nothing wrong with that. Just don't expect a miracle from a new model. It won't happen.

 

[Sporgon]

My question is this: why did they even make the 24-70 f/4L IS, that great macro mode, etc. if you are effectively going to obsolete that lens with a new 24-105L?

It's the equivalent of a 18-55 EF-S lens. It will be the discounted lens for basic kits for the 6DII and probably for the 5D line as well. Expect to pay a premium for the new 24-105mm lens in a kit.

Having had both the 6D and the 24-70 L IS I think that lens was produced specifically to be a lighter, smaller L match with the 6D. That combination was significantly more 'handy' than the 5D 24-105L combination. In my experience by far the largest numbers of the 'I'm selling up and getting a compact system' people have had the biggest and best zoom lenses on their FF dslr, and it's those lenses that make the system big and heavy.

I'm guessing this new 24-105 may be quite hefty in comparison to the 24-70, so for many users I'm sure it won't be obsolete.

 

[rrcphoto]

<p>We’re told that the Canon EOS 5D Mark IV will be announced on August 25, 2016 if you’re based in North America.</p>
<p>The camera will be launched with a new EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II kit along with another current lens kit.</p>
<p>We’re not sure if the new EF 16-35mm f/2.8L III will be announced the same day, or get a separate announcement ahead of Photokina.</p>
<p><strong>*UPDATE*</strong></p>
<p>I don’t know what time of day the announcement will come on August 25, 2016, it could be at 11PM EST, as they have done before. This would make it an August 26, 2016 announcement for a lot of the planet.</p>
<p><em>Lots more to come…</em></p>
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hmm.
has canon ever announced a major product so late in the week? I thought most of their announcements were mon-> wednesday and not friday.

friday really leaves little business hours time before the weekend to get out information,etc before things shut down for the weekend.

 

[Sporgon]

I will hold off on a purchase until we see real world images. I have heard when shown the same photo taken under "normal" conditions, most people can't tell the difference between a 5D2 and 5D3.

You'd notice the difference in IQ if the 5D2 image was OOF and the 5DIII wasn't. Not sure when we will see any improvement in low ISO IQ on FF cameras, probably when we move to a different type of sensor altogether.

I never upgraded to the III because the things I shoot tend to move at snails pace, but incidentally I have found that if you want reasonable centre tracking on the 5DII use a f/2.8 lens or faster and expand the focus point in servo.

 

[StudentOfLight]

My guess is that a 24-105mm f/4 L IS would be differentiated for video. Relatively low focus-breathing, relatively parfocal and with Nano-USM drive to complement the DPAF system. Basically a lens that will entice 5D-IV kit sales.

 

[unfocused]

...has canon ever announced a major product so late in the week? I thought most of their announcements were mon-> wednesday and not friday...

My interpretation of that is so that they don't have to worry about another camera vendor making a product announcement after them in that same week with a product release that takes away the attention from Canon's announcement.

Nonsense.

 

[lloyd709]

The key factors for a new DSLR camera aimed at people wanting to make money with it are DR, focus performance and noise control. Canon are well aware of this and like all other 5D iterations I'm sure there will be an improvement in all of them and be a success.

 

[Sporgon]

The key factors for a new DSLR camera aimed at people wanting to make money with it are DR,

There speaks someone who clearly doesn't use their camera to make money.

 

[George D.]

Aug.25th. That is soon after Rio Olympics (ending 21st). Sound move. So we have one month of rumor frenzy. Let the good times roll.

 

[lino]

Around 36-42 MP 5dM iv followed by a 75 MP 5dsmii

 

[greger]

After the Olympics in Rio makes perfect sense. It will be fully tested with time to fix any found flaws,then release it to the public.

 

[tron]

Around 36-42 MP 5dM iv followed by a 75 MP 5dsmii

Or 24Mp 5DMIV followed by a 50Mp 5DSRII (yes 50Mp, not a typo )

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

My Prediction was for August 23, because they usually make the announcements on Tuesday or Wednesday. It may very well be made on Wednesday in some parts of the world, but Thursday US Time and date.

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