Canon EOS 5D Mark IV to be Announced August 25, 2016 [CR3]

[pvalpha]

Around 36-42 MP 5dM iv followed by a 75 MP 5dsmii

Or 24Mp 5DMIV followed by a 50Mp 5DSRII (yes 50Mp, not a typo )

I don't think Canon plans on filling your wish. Its fish or cut bait time for them, and as much as any of us might hate it - numbers sell. They've been working on stupidly high MP sensors since 2010. Its going to be 28MP-32MP for the 5D4 and in 2017 a 100-120MP sensor for the 5Ds/r. Plus a 48MP 7D3 @ 10-12fps early 2017. I wouldn't be surprised if they were all BSI sensors too with DR that will spank anything out there. Oh, and everyone who uses Canon will be buying Cfast. Everyone. They might be conservative, but Canon is not stupid. Are they going to alienate some people with Cfast and high MP counts? Possibly. But no more than Sony or Nikon will as they switch to XQD exclusively.

Time to buy three stupidly large NAS devices... one for active work and two for rotating offsite backups. Or really pick your pictures carefully.

 

[ashmadux]

(hugs 5d3, speaks to it)

"We will be friends for a long time...don't you worry about that new and shiny stuff. You rock my socks."

(5d3 smiles back)

Ok, time to put down the crack


5d4 ftw

 

[Jopa]

No doubt this will be a great camera. It would be awesome if Canon made it 36Mpx, not 24-28, otherwise my budget will go towards a 5dsr2... (spoiled by the v1)

 

[slclick]

My Prediction was for August 23, because they usually make the announcements on Tuesday or Wednesday. It may very well be made on Wednesday in some parts of the world, but Thursday US Time and date.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=30206.msg605963#msg605963

That's not possible.

It can be made on Wednesday in the USA and Thursday in Japan but not the other way around.

But maybe the new feature is time travel

 

[TAF]

Announce: August 25
Release: September 1

That would be ideal.

If that proves to be the case (Sept 1 available), that means that the cameras are already in the shipping containers and on their way to the US.

It takes 1-2 months for a high end product to travel from Japan to the US and then to the distribution locations for staging for delivery to retailers (the sailing time alone is 17 days in good weather, and can be twice that in bad weather).

Now they can use air freight for the first batch if they want to avoid any pre-release leaks, but that is very expensive. But it is ocean transit for mass shipping.

(Note: for low end things like toys coming from China the lead-time is more like 6 months - the products that will be the hit item for Christmas are already on the their, and no one knows which one will be the big success).

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

My Prediction was for August 23, because they usually make the announcements on Tuesday or Wednesday. It may very well be made on Wednesday in some parts of the world, but Thursday US Time and date.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=30206.msg605963#msg605963

That's not possible.

It can be made on Wednesday in the USA and Thursday in Japan but not the other way around.

Yes, I got that backwards. Thursday in the Netherlands, where announcements are often made, Wednesday evening in the USA.

 

[Ozarker]

Around 36-42 MP 5dM iv followed by a 75 MP 5dsmii

Or 24Mp 5DMIV followed by a 50Mp 5DSRII (yes 50Mp, not a typo )

I don't think Canon plans on filling your wish. Its fish or cut bait time for them, and as much as any of us might hate it - numbers sell. They've been working on stupidly high MP sensors since 2010. Its going to be 28MP-32MP for the 5D4 and in 2017 a 100-120MP sensor for the 5Ds/r. Plus a 48MP 7D3 @ 10-12fps early 2017. I wouldn't be surprised if they were all BSI sensors too with DR that will spank anything out there. Oh, and everyone who uses Canon will be buying Cfast. Everyone. They might be conservative, but Canon is not stupid. Are they going to alienate some people with Cfast and high MP counts? Possibly. But no more than Sony or Nikon will as they switch to XQD exclusively.

Time to buy three stupidly large NAS devices... one for active work and two for rotating offsite backups. Or really pick your pictures carefully.

I'd just like to say that when any of you buy a 100-120 mp 5DSR my brother Louie the welder will be waiting to take your orders for structural steel tripods. He'll have a package deal including a crane to get the thing into the back of your pick-up truck, and gyroscopes to keep the tripod steady while you are shooting.

Time for Canon to fish or cut bait? I'll never understand the gloom and doom. Numbers sell? Do you mean megapixels? Nawwwwww, performance sells.

If there are so many megapixels that a man can't handhold the camera and get a clean sharp shot, then what it the point of all those megapixels?

 

[rocketsurgeon]

I am keen af for the mk iv.

This would be my perfect camera, so I'm very hopeful. They also took their sweet time, more than any of their other bodies, so here's to hoping it's because they perfected the dslr.

 

[SchnauzerFace]

Given my current needs, a lot of my decision hinges on how it handles 4K. If it does 4K internal @ 60 fps, and it's also a significant overall upgrade from the 5diii, then I think I'm sold.

I need a new camera pretty much yesterday, and I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on a 1DXii. Obviously, Canon would never make the 5D IV so attractive that it could become a 1D killer ... but if I find the drawbacks aren't worth the $2,500 price difference, then I might just go with the 5D.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I'm more excited by the 24-105 Mk2!

JUST this morning thinking of what a great workhorse the 24-105 is, that if I could only have one lens, that would be it, and, of course, wondering when we'd get a version II! A little better optics overall, less distortion wide, new gen IS, yes, yes, yes.

Go, Canon, go!

The decision to go here after moving the 24-105 downmarket with the non-L version seems perplexing at best. The demand for a great 24-105L II is there, I have no doubt, but it seemed like Canon had abandoned the 24-105 as a higher end tool in favor of a sharper 24-70 lens.

My question is this: why did they even make the 24-70 f/4L IS, that great macro mode, etc. if you are effectively going to obsolete that lens with a new 24-105L?

- A

Sometimes a blunder is a blunder. No subtext.

Not sure it was a blunder. Small, light, vastly better than the 24-105, faster (better T stop by far), mini-macro built-in. Not sure the 24-105 II could match that all, either worse IQ or much larger and heavier I'd expect. The Sigma 24-105 failed quickly. It weighed about as much as the 24-70 f/2.8 II!

 

[tron]

Around 36-42 MP 5dM iv followed by a 75 MP 5dsmii

Or 24Mp 5DMIV followed by a 50Mp 5DSRII (yes 50Mp, not a typo )

I don't think Canon plans on filling your wish. Its fish or cut bait time for them, and as much as any of us might hate it - numbers sell. They've been working on stupidly high MP sensors since 2010. Its going to be 28MP-32MP for the 5D4 and in 2017 a 100-120MP sensor for the 5Ds/r. Plus a 48MP 7D3 @ 10-12fps early 2017. I wouldn't be surprised if they were all BSI sensors too with DR that will spank anything out there. Oh, and everyone who uses Canon will be buying Cfast. Everyone. They might be conservative, but Canon is not stupid. Are they going to alienate some people with Cfast and high MP counts? Possibly. But no more than Sony or Nikon will as they switch to XQD exclusively.

Time to buy three stupidly large NAS devices... one for active work and two for rotating offsite backups. Or really pick your pictures carefully.

Maybe it will be 28Mp but I was basically answering to 36-42 which is not going to happen... (there is a 50Mp one....)

 

[Talley]

Is anyone excited about the new 24-105? This means the older ones will drop some in value initially when many upgrade.... then come back up to hold their own.

Or it could mean that instead of the 500-550 range used they will now be 400-450 consistently.

 

[Maximilian]

Is anyone excited about the new 24-105?

Yes! Of course!
I want to see how a successor can perform.

This means the older ones will drop some in value initially when many upgrade.... then come back up to hold their own.

Or it could mean that instead of the 500-550 range used they will now be 400-450 consistently.

Don't think so.
I suppose the price of the new one will be significantly higher, no matter if purchased stand alone or as kit lens.
So also the "white box" copies of a Mk II will be more expensive.

I don't know if and how many people will upgrade at all, as long as they're not buying a new kit.

So I see no reason for a huge second hand price drop for the Mk I.

 

[slclick]

I'm more excited by the 24-105 Mk2!

JUST this morning thinking of what a great workhorse the 24-105 is, that if I could only have one lens, that would be it, and, of course, wondering when we'd get a version II! A little better optics overall, less distortion wide, new gen IS, yes, yes, yes.

Go, Canon, go!

The decision to go here after moving the 24-105 downmarket with the non-L version seems perplexing at best. The demand for a great 24-105L II is there, I have no doubt, but it seemed like Canon had abandoned the 24-105 as a higher end tool in favor of a sharper 24-70 lens.

My question is this: why did they even make the 24-70 f/4L IS, that great macro mode, etc. if you are effectively going to obsolete that lens with a new 24-105L?

- A

Sometimes a blunder is a blunder. No subtext.

Not sure it was a blunder. Small, light, vastly better than the 24-105, faster (better T stop by far), mini-macro built-in. Not sure the 24-105 II could match that all, either worse IQ or much larger and heavier I'd expect. The Sigma 24-105 failed quickly. It weighed about as much as the 24-70 f/2.8 II!

I've owned all 3 of those lenses and the IQ of the Sigma was by far the best. The AF speed of the 24-70 f/4 was the best and my two copies of the Canon 24-105 varied greatly. The Siggy didn't sell well and was heavy but it was a marked improvement over the Canon version.

 

[gsealy]

Given my current needs, a lot of my decision hinges on how it handles 4K. If it does 4K internal @ 60 fps, and it's also a significant overall upgrade from the 5diii, then I think I'm sold.

I need a new camera pretty much yesterday, and I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on a 1DXii. Obviously, Canon would never make the 5D IV so attractive that it could become a 1D killer ... but if I find the drawbacks aren't worth the $2,500 price difference, then I might just go with the 5D.

I think we see the same 4K architecture that is in the 1DxII. It's okay, but when you want to do more serious video work then it is lacking. It's 8 bit Motion JPG. which is a series of JPG files. My hope is that it supports external recording and therefore supports a better codec. That is the difference maker for me. Technology and price points are changing so fast that it is best to look at all options for the work that is to done. The 5DIII works well for me right now. I have 3 HD video options: internal recording with the standard options, external recording to an Atomos Ninja using ProRes, and internal raw recording with Magic Lantern. I use all of them depending on the situation. It would be great if the 5DIV could provide the same kind of flexibility in 4K. (Hopefully, Magic Lantern takes up the 5DIV at some point.) We will see.

 

[mb66energy]

Is anyone excited about the new 24-105? This means the older ones will drop some in value initially when many upgrade.... then come back up to hold their own.

Or it could mean that instead of the 500-550 range used they will now be 400-450 consistently.

I am - because the existing solutions with 24mm and a reasonable tele = 100mm aren't satisfying to me. 24mm is ultrawide for me while 100mm is a good standard focal length (for me again). If this lens has "enough" close focus, 1:3 would be great, it will be the perfect allrounder.

Hopefully distortions are well controlled with the new one and contralight flares a rare thing ...

 

[ehouli]

As for the 5D mk IV, more MP are not relevant to me, what I expect from this camera is that canon improves DR, noise handling and take the AA filter off. I know there is the 5Dsr but that's for really high mp count. The same resolution as the mk III and no AA filter is enough for most needs.

 

[FramerMCB]

I'm more excited by the 24-105 Mk2!

JUST this morning thinking of what a great workhorse the 24-105 is, that if I could only have one lens, that would be it, and, of course, wondering when we'd get a version II! A little better optics overall, less distortion wide, new gen IS, yes, yes, yes.

Go, Canon, go!

The decision to go here after moving the 24-105 downmarket with the non-L version seems perplexing at best. The demand for a great 24-105L II is there, I have no doubt, but it seemed like Canon had abandoned the 24-105 as a higher end tool in favor of a sharper 24-70 lens.

My question is this: why did they even make the 24-70 f/4L IS, that great macro mode, etc. if you are effectively going to obsolete that lens with a new 24-105L?

- A

Sometimes a blunder is a blunder. No subtext.

Not sure it was a blunder. Small, light, vastly better than the 24-105, faster (better T stop by far), mini-macro built-in. Not sure the 24-105 II could match that all, either worse IQ or much larger and heavier I'd expect. The Sigma 24-105 failed quickly. It weighed about as much as the 24-70 f/2.8 II!

I've owned all 3 of those lenses and the IQ of the Sigma was by far the best. The AF speed of the 24-70 f/4 was the best and my two copies of the Canon 24-105 varied greatly. The Siggy didn't sell well and was heavy but it was a marked improvement over the Canon version.

+1
I haven't owned any of them, but the reviews I've read indicate that the much newer Sigma 24-105mm Art Series is quite a bit better lens than the Canon 24-105mm. Especially at the wide end. Also, the Canon 24-70mm f/4L is a very good lens too based on what I've read and photo's I've seen taken with it. The macro function is especially, a "nice-to-have" feature.

 

[ahsanford]

+1
I haven't owned any of them, but the reviews I've read indicate that the much newer Sigma 24-105mm Art Series is quite a bit better lens than the Canon 24-105mm. Especially at the wide end. Also, the Canon 24-70mm f/4L is a very good lens too based on what I've read and photo's I've seen taken with it. The macro function is especially, a "nice-to-have" feature.

The 24-70 f/4L IS macro mode is outright gold for an 'oh by the way, it also does this', but its second selling point is its relatively small and light design. Though the current 24-105L is not terribly heavier than the 24-70 f/4L IS, but I wonder how much heavier with the II version will get in the pursuit of better IQ.

I'm torn on that. On one hand, the only truly sharp 24-105 I've seen is Sigma's, and it's heavier than the 24-70 f/2.8L II! But on the other hand, that 24-70 f/2.8L II was shockingly sharper than the I version and it lost weight in the process. Here's hoping Canon can pull that same rabbit out of the hat with the new 24-105L.

- A

 

[unfocused]

While I'm looking forward to the new 24-105 "L" (I'll wait a year or so for the price to settle in and for it to show up either as a white box or refurbished), I'm always perplexed by those who think the original is inferior to the Sigma.

[quote author=The Digital Picture]
The bottom line is that I could be very happy with either of these lenses as my sole general purpose zoom and that they are more similar than different.

From a wide open aperture sharpness perspective, the Sigma performs better in the mid and peripheral areas of the image circle at 24mm through 28mm. The two lenses are nearly equivalent from 35mm through 70mm. The Canon is sharper at 105mm...Sigma wins the 24mm contest and Canon wins at 105mm.

But that's at f/4. Stop down to f/5.6, and you'll be hard pressed to find a difference in sharpness between these lenses....

The Sigma focuses more quietly than the Canon, but the Canon focuses a bit faster than the Sigma... The Canon lens is lighter and slightly smaller – and is weather sealed.[/quote]