Canon EOS 5D Mark IV to be Announced August 25, 2016 [CR3]

[Hjalmarg1]

I'm more excited by the 24-105 Mk2!

Hopefully it will adopt similar formula to the 24-70mm f4L IS with 35mm extra reach and 4-stops IS

 

[Guillaume GLEIZE]

What is horrible for me is to think about all those 4K and more video options I don't care but that will increase the price of the future 5D4 ... ARRRGG! But I suppose this is the price to pay for a "general" camera?

 

[tpatana]

Shut up and take my money.

 

[Buck]

For everyone complaining that a file size of 32-36 MP is too much, go into the menu and change the settings to a medium or small file size, problem solved. I shoot sports with my 5d3, so I want more fps ( not always compatable with more MPs) and better high end iso.
I would like to see more file size options than just L, M or S.

 

[tron]

Is anyone excited about the new 24-105?

Yes! Of course!
I want to see how a successor can perform.

This means the older ones will drop some in value initially when many upgrade.... then come back up to hold their own.

Or it could mean that instead of the 500-550 range used they will now be 400-450 consistently.

Don't think so.
I suppose the price of the new one will be significantly higher, no matter if purchased stand alone or as kit lens.
So also the "white box" copies of a Mk II will be more expensive.

I don't know if and how many people will upgrade at all, as long as they're not buying a new kit.

So I see no reason for a huge second hand price drop for the Mk I.

I agree. Canon latest new version lenses come with higher prices (see 24-70, 70-200 2.8, 100-400) so there cannot be a significant price drop for the older versions.

 

[vscd]

[...]pixel size is pretty much irrelevant[...]

No, it's the only thing which counts afterall. Really.

 

[IglooEater]

What is horrible for me is to think about all those 4K and more video options I don't care but that will increase the price of the future 5D4 ... ARRRGG! But I suppose this is the price to pay for a "general" camera?

Running the risk of repeating myself, but video features are actually more likely to make the camera less expensive due to the market segment for whom it would be a no-go without. More end buyers results in lower cost/unit of development, tooling, etc.

 

[padam]

No matter what features and improvements will be thrown in, the starting price will be roughly the same as with the Mark III, around 3500$ for the body.

 

[tron]

No matter what features and improvements will be thrown in, the starting price will be roughly the same as with the Mark III, around 3500$ for the body.

+1 Exactly. Plus the a large number of buyers make the camera successful but I am not sure about making it less expensive. To the contrary if there are many buyers Canon does not have to lower the price. Check the opposite where they decreased the price of 5Ds which had limited success relative to 5DsR. But of course successful sales increase profits and ensure the next iteration of the camera.

 

[Orangutan]

What is horrible for me is to think about all those 4K and more video options I don't care but that will increase the price of the future 5D4 ... ARRRGG! But I suppose this is the price to pay for a "general" camera?

Running the risk of repeating myself, but video features are actually more likely to make the camera less expensive due to the market segment for whom it would be a no-go without. More end buyers results in lower cost/unit of development, tooling, etc.

We go through this with many new CR readers: they don't seem to get the fact that the cost to add video to a modern SLR is nearly zero, and lack of video will undermine sales, driving up per-unit costs. Most of the anti-video crowd learned this lesson from the Nikon Df fiasco.

 

[tron]

What is horrible for me is to think about all those 4K and more video options I don't care but that will increase the price of the future 5D4 ... ARRRGG! But I suppose this is the price to pay for a "general" camera?

Running the risk of repeating myself, but video features are actually more likely to make the camera less expensive due to the market segment for whom it would be a no-go without. More end buyers results in lower cost/unit of development, tooling, etc.

We go through this with many new CR readers: they don't seem to get the fact that the cost to add video to a modern SLR is nearly zero, and lack of video will undermine sales, driving up per-unit costs. Most of the anti-video crowd learned this lesson from the Nikon Df fiasco.

As far as I am concerned I didn't spoke against video. I have spoken against a major price increase due to video features. As a hyperbole I reversed what another member said to explain that different people have different needs and anyway it is a stills camera with video features and not the opposite...

 

[Orangutan]

What is horrible for me is to think about all those 4K and more video options I don't care but that will increase the price of the future 5D4 ... ARRRGG! But I suppose this is the price to pay for a "general" camera?

Running the risk of repeating myself, but video features are actually more likely to make the camera less expensive due to the market segment for whom it would be a no-go without. More end buyers results in lower cost/unit of development, tooling, etc.

We go through this with many new CR readers: they don't seem to get the fact that the cost to add video to a modern SLR is nearly zero, and lack of video will undermine sales, driving up per-unit costs. Most of the anti-video crowd learned this lesson from the Nikon Df fiasco.

As far as I am concerned I didn't spoke against video. I have spoken against a major price increase due to video features. As a hyperbole I reversed what another member said to explain that different people have different needs and anyway it is a stills camera with video features and not the opposite...

Can you provide examples?

 

[tron]

What is horrible for me is to think about all those 4K and more video options I don't care but that will increase the price of the future 5D4 ... ARRRGG! But I suppose this is the price to pay for a "general" camera?

Running the risk of repeating myself, but video features are actually more likely to make the camera less expensive due to the market segment for whom it would be a no-go without. More end buyers results in lower cost/unit of development, tooling, etc.

We go through this with many new CR readers: they don't seem to get the fact that the cost to add video to a modern SLR is nearly zero, and lack of video will undermine sales, driving up per-unit costs. Most of the anti-video crowd learned this lesson from the Nikon Df fiasco.

As far as I am concerned I didn't spoke against video. I have spoken against a major price increase due to video features. As a hyperbole I reversed what another member said to explain that different people have different needs and anyway it is a stills camera with video features and not the opposite...

Can you provide examples?

Sorry wrong thread (but correct context). I was talking about:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=30326.msg609344#msg609344

where a member was willing to pay 5000$ for a 5D4 with advanced video features.

 

[Orangutan]

What is horrible for me is to think about all those 4K and more video options I don't care but that will increase the price of the future 5D4 ... ARRRGG! But I suppose this is the price to pay for a "general" camera?

Running the risk of repeating myself, but video features are actually more likely to make the camera less expensive due to the market segment for whom it would be a no-go without. More end buyers results in lower cost/unit of development, tooling, etc.

We go through this with many new CR readers: they don't seem to get the fact that the cost to add video to a modern SLR is nearly zero, and lack of video will undermine sales, driving up per-unit costs. Most of the anti-video crowd learned this lesson from the Nikon Df fiasco.

As far as I am concerned I didn't spoke against video. I have spoken against a major price increase due to video features. As a hyperbole I reversed what another member said to explain that different people have different needs and anyway it is a stills camera with video features and not the opposite...

Can you provide examples?

Sorry wrong thread (but correct context). I was talking about:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=30326.msg609344#msg609344

where a member was willing to pay 5000$ for a 5D4 with advanced video features.

I don't know that it's significant for one person to say they'd pay extra for "pro" video features. The only question I consider significant is whether Canon increases the price for a normal 5-series body with "pro" video. Consensus, so far, has been that they would not do that because they want to protect their cinema line.

 

[Donkey_Kong]

It's already been said, but my fingers are crossed for no articulating/tilting screen. It's really not that difficult to crouch down to take a photo. If it really is difficult for you, it's probably time to consider changes to your health rather than expecting camera manufacturers to accomodate your laziness. I like my cameras robust and weather-sealed, without moving parts.

Also, why don't DSLRs ever have focus points across the entire frame? Why is this seemingly simple-to-implement feature limited to mirrorless cameras? Some of the Sony cams have 300+ points. Obviously this is far too many as it must take forever scrolling to the one you want, but 61af points all grouped in the middle of the frame seems archaic for 2016.

 

[Orangutan]

It's really not that difficult to crouch down to take a photo. If it really is difficult for you, it's probably time to consider changes to your health rather than expecting camera manufacturers to accomodate your laziness. I like my cameras robust and weather-sealed, without moving parts.

You must be very young and have no children. Otherwise, you'd know that yours is a very parochial assertion. Age catches up with all of us. Some can still crouch down in their 80's, others have problems much earlier. Even those who can may not wish to put knees down in mud (or worse) to get that perfect angle. This doesn't even take into consideration the ability to shoot over crowds. It's a convenience feature, and in certain circumstances it's a huge convenience.

Also, why don't DSLRs ever have focus points across the entire frame? Why is this seemingly simple-to-implement feature limited to mirrorless cameras?

I suggest you do some basic reading on phase detection vs. contrast detection autofocus systems, then the answer will be fairly obvious.

 

[slclick]

It's already been said, but my fingers are crossed for no articulating/tilting screen. It's really not that difficult to crouch down to take a photo. If it really is difficult for you, it's probably time to consider changes to your health rather than expecting camera manufacturers to accomodate your laziness. I like my cameras robust and weather-sealed, without moving parts.

Also, why don't DSLRs ever have focus points across the entire frame? Why is this seemingly simple-to-implement feature limited to mirrorless cameras? Some of the Sony cams have 300+ points. Obviously this is far too many as it must take forever scrolling to the one you want, but 61af points all grouped in the middle of the frame seems archaic for 2016.

Ground level macro work, done by the most limber and youthful (Or middle aged and semi flexible as myself) would benefit from a flippy screen. The 6D2 will have it, no need to get your Under Armor or Depends in a bunch over this

 

[saveyourmoment]

It's already been said, but my fingers are crossed for no articulating/tilting screen. It's really not that difficult to crouch down to take a photo. If it really is difficult for you, it's probably time to consider changes to your health rather than expecting camera manufacturers to accomodate your laziness. I like my cameras robust and weather-sealed, without moving parts.

Agree! Anybody know the canon angel finder? Thats how you look through your lense from above! Serious macroshooting has to be tethered anyway. I dont want to focusstack with this tiny lcd in the back. No chance.

 

[mehaue]

If there is 4k60 with good quality and internal recording I will be sold. Video is going to take a very important role in my work and with 4k I will be able to crop reasonably well and have good 1080p output at the end of the day.
This would be an instant preorder.

 

[George D.]

I think it's high time some [CR3] spec comes in... This is not some classified top secret, it's just a camera.

Or I'm starting to wonder whether Canon is afraid of 1DX2 user backlash during the Olympics in case 5D4 leaks some better performance here and there. So ...no news until Aug.21st!