Canon EOS 6D Mark II & EOS Rebel SL2 Coming June 29 [CR2]

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We’ve received two separate tips that the Canon EOS 6D Mark II and EOS Rebel SL2 will be announced on June 29, 2017 (based on EST). Both of these cameras are scheduled to begin shipping in early August.</p>
<p>We’re trying to get this confirmed so we can upgrade the rating to [CR3]</p>
<p>We’ll have some updates on specifications very shortly.</p>
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davidj said:
Two weeks out from announcement and there are no rumoured specs yet? Is this a record?


Same. I'm surprised no spec leaks with an announcement 2 weeks out.

This close to announcement...you'd think some distributor, retailers, marketing people, testers, sales reps something somewhere would leak something.

So far, all the specs rumors have been speculation, not leaks from the way it looks. All things that can be reasonably assumed to be a camera spec.

Unless the late July date is the real one, and this June 29th is an error... this makes the time line more common. Then again, there's been other releases that had little to no info - so perhaps Canon's internal controls are getting better.
 
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K said:
davidj said:
Two weeks out from announcement and there are no rumoured specs yet? Is this a record?


Same. I'm surprised no spec leaks with an announcement 2 weeks out.

This close to announcement...you'd think some distributor, retailers, marketing people, testers, sales reps something somewhere would leak something.

So far, all the specs rumors have been speculation, not leaks from the way it looks. All things that can be reasonably assumed to be a camera spec.

Unless the late July date is the real one, and this June 29th is an error... this makes the time line more common. Then again, there's been other releases that had little to no info - so perhaps Canon's internal controls are getting better.

But if we are 2 weeks from launch, all the marketing would be done, manuals complete, testing largely complete, manufacturing would have started in earnest (to iron out manufacturing issues) etc which means the automated test harnesses would be working, an operators have to be trained on this process.

So there would by now be a lot of people in the process, and it would be so hard to contain this information. Either Canon are using the FBI to watch their employees, or this date is maybe inaccurate?

I really hope it's right mind, have been watching the rumors about this for a couple of years now.

Alan.
 
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CanonFanBoy said:
It would be great if this was a 5D Mark III in 6D clothing.

Unlikely. The 5D3 hit a certain point in the evolution of capability that, if given to the 6D2, would damage 5D4 sales.

6D2 will be better than the 5D3 in many ways - but not in ways that will hurt or overlap with the 5D4.

Among which would be -

AF system
Dual Card Slots
Build Quality
Controls
and several other things...

6D2 is going to be a fantastic sensor in a blah body. The main attraction is going to be Canon's first FF with a screen that moves. I can't see any other way it will be equal to or better than the 5D4. Maybe better sensor being newer, although less MP. It won't best it in speed, AF or anything else that matters...I'll be surprised if it even gets the 45pt system. For practical photography, you won't see any difference in sensor like the 6D vs 5D3, but pixel peepers will see an advantage.

If I'm wrong about all of the above, then it will be clear that Canon has departed from their old way of doing things.
 
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wildwalker said:
K said:
davidj said:
Two weeks out from announcement and there are no rumoured specs yet? Is this a record?


Same. I'm surprised no spec leaks with an announcement 2 weeks out.

This close to announcement...you'd think some distributor, retailers, marketing people, testers, sales reps something somewhere would leak something.

So far, all the specs rumors have been speculation, not leaks from the way it looks. All things that can be reasonably assumed to be a camera spec.

Unless the late July date is the real one, and this June 29th is an error... this makes the time line more common. Then again, there's been other releases that had little to no info - so perhaps Canon's internal controls are getting better.

But if we are 2 weeks from launch, all the marketing would be done, manuals complete, testing largely complete, manufacturing would have started in earnest (to iron out manufacturing issues) etc which means the automated test harnesses would be working, an operators have to be trained on this process.

So there would by now be a lot of people in the process, and it would be so hard to contain this information. Either Canon are using the FBI to watch their employees, or this date is maybe inaccurate?

I really hope it's right mind, have been watching the rumors about this for a couple of years now.

Alan.

it's two weeks from announcement and around 2 months before it ships, so there's a fair amount of time.

vendors and places like dpreview would all be under NDA.
 
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rrcphoto said:
wildwalker said:
K said:
davidj said:
Two weeks out from announcement and there are no rumoured specs yet? Is this a record?


Same. I'm surprised no spec leaks with an announcement 2 weeks out.

This close to announcement...you'd think some distributor, retailers, marketing people, testers, sales reps something somewhere would leak something.

So far, all the specs rumors have been speculation, not leaks from the way it looks. All things that can be reasonably assumed to be a camera spec.

Unless the late July date is the real one, and this June 29th is an error... this makes the time line more common. Then again, there's been other releases that had little to no info - so perhaps Canon's internal controls are getting better.

But if we are 2 weeks from launch, all the marketing would be done, manuals complete, testing largely complete, manufacturing would have started in earnest (to iron out manufacturing issues) etc which means the automated test harnesses would be working, an operators have to be trained on this process.

So there would by now be a lot of people in the process, and it would be so hard to contain this information. Either Canon are using the FBI to watch their employees, or this date is maybe inaccurate?

I really hope it's right mind, have been watching the rumors about this for a couple of years now.

Alan.

it's two weeks from announcement and around 2 months before it ships, so there's a fair amount of time.

vendors and places like dpreview would all be under NDA.
For example: You are a company that has been printing manuals for Canon and you have signed a NDA.... You leak out information and not only do you not get paid, you probably have to pay a penalty and you NEVER get another job from Canon again..... That's great incentive to keep quiet.....
 
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For example: You are a company that has been printing manuals for Canon and you have signed a NDA.... You leak out information and not only do you not get paid, you probably have to pay a penalty and you NEVER get another job from Canon again..... That's great incentive to keep quiet.....
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Canon would have to prove beyond doubt that is where a leak came from. I deal with companies and NDA's all the time, and you still hear plenty of 'whispers' that you know should not be public knowledge.

(not NDA's for Camera gear I hasten to add hehe)
 
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Ever heard of TOR?

It isn't that hard to make a completely anonymous leak and not get caught.

The only way is if Canon provides information to you that it provided to no one else. Even then, how can they prove only you had it? At best they just know not to do business with you. And for Canon that practice is pointless except to bust leakers. I doubt they would waste the time. Corporations are usually concerned with the leaks of trade secrets and technology that hasn't been patented yet.

A better explanation is that what incentive does anyone have to leak info? Most people don't do that and act ethically. Those that are willing to be unethical, then need an incentive or purpose.

Probably just a shortage of willing leakers.

But the means and the ability to do so undetected is there and very, very easy without any fear of problems, NDA or not.

I'm a bit puzzled because a major release like this has many hands on it in many areas and levels. It's not impossible to keep the lid on, but it's tough.
 
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However you slice it, Canon has been very successful at controlling leaks. The best example I can think of in recent years was DPAF, which came as a surprise to everyone until Canon themselves "leaked" it about a week before the official announcement....
 
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Don Haines said:
However you slice it, Canon has been very successful at controlling leaks. The best example I can think of in recent years was DPAF, which came as a surprise to everyone until Canon themselves "leaked" it about a week before the official announcement....

how did canon leak it?

I know at times canon china has slipped up, but it's usually not a week prior.

we heard whisperings of a "new sensor" coming for the 70D.. but yes, DPAF was pretty much a surprise.
 
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wildwalker said:
Canon would have to prove beyond doubt that is where a leak came from. I deal with companies and NDA's all the time, and you still hear plenty of 'whispers' that you know should not be public knowledge.

(not NDA's for Camera gear I hasten to add hehe)

Why would Canon have to prove anything? They just take the offending party of their 'cc' list. Whether it is worth the bad feeling is for them to judge.
 
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