Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]

[verysimplejason]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

I may be alone here, but the deal killer for me is if it only comes with one custom user setting. Here's hoping it has 3.

If you have pro needs you should afford a pro camera.

Not every pro have "pro" money especially for pro photographers in some parts of the world. Don't treat all pro photographers like they're coming from US or UK where minimum wage is much higher than for example some countries in Asia.

 

[Hobby Shooter]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

I may be alone here, but the deal killer for me is if it only comes with one custom user setting. Here's hoping it has 3.

If you have pro needs you should afford a pro camera.

Not every pro have "pro" money especially for pro photographers in some parts of the world. Don't treat all pro photographers like they're coming from US or UK where minimum wage is much higher than for example some countries in Asia.

I think you would know that I have lived in Cambodia up until just a few weeks ago. Now back in Sweden though. Some statements regarding products are quite arrogant and contributes to setting the wrong expectations on products, if they would include all features in all models then there wouldn't be different models right? With cameras and other tech being 20-35% cheaper in many countries in Asia I would say that a large chunk of the difference is already wiped out. I've bought all my stuff in Cambodia as it is 30-35% cheaper than in Sweden, a few stores there import themselves from Singapore.

Maybe I overreacted on this post though and for that I apologize. :-[

 

[whothafunk]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

I'm pretty sure 70D did not inherit 7D's AF, just because 7D has a dedicated processor just for the AF + Dual Digic4 processors. Dedicated processors is what makes 7D's, 5DIII's and 1D's series AF so splendid.

Here's a quote from POTN on this matter

The AF systems in these cameras have their own, dedicated processors that are completely separate from the chips that are handling image processing. So when comparing the theoretical AF performance of the 7D to the new 70D, you are not comparing a single Digic5+ to a pair of 4s. You are comparing the processing power that the 5+ devotes to AF (rather than processing image data, sending files to the memory card, calculating exposure, monitoring battery levels, running noise reduction algorithms, etc.) to the processing power of a single chip that is clearly older and outdated but is doing AF calculations and nothing else.

 

[verysimplejason]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

I may be alone here, but the deal killer for me is if it only comes with one custom user setting. Here's hoping it has 3.

If you have pro needs you should afford a pro camera.

Not every pro have "pro" money especially for pro photographers in some parts of the world. Don't treat all pro photographers like they're coming from US or UK where minimum wage is much higher than for example some countries in Asia.

I think you would know that I have lived in Cambodia up until just a few weeks ago. Now back in Sweden though. Some statements regarding products are quite arrogant and contributes to setting the wrong expectations on products, if they would include all features in all models then there wouldn't be different models right? With cameras and other tech being 20-35% cheaper in many countries in Asia I would say that a large chunk of the difference is already wiped out. I've bought all my stuff in Cambodia as it is 30-35% cheaper than in Sweden, a few stores there import themselves from Singapore.

Maybe I overreacted on this post though and for that I apologize. :-[

Me too. I just accused you right away. Sorry. I'm just tired of people bragging about their equipment. Well, I too bought my equipment mostly here in Malaysia since it's cheaper than buying it at home.

Well, Nikon D7100 got U2 and U1 aside from 58 AF points. I think comparing 70D to it seems fair. I just hope Canon's sensor manages to at least be competitive with new sensors from other companies such as Sony. I'm still waiting for that "breakthrough". I hope this is it. Looking at the SL1, its sensor is just the same thing as that with 18MPs. I hope 70D's sensor is better.

 

[Hobby Shooter]

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I may be alone here, but the deal killer for me is if it only comes with one custom user setting. Here's hoping it has 3.

If you have pro needs you should afford a pro camera.

Not every pro have "pro" money especially for pro photographers in some parts of the world. Don't treat all pro photographers like they're coming from US or UK where minimum wage is much higher than for example some countries in Asia.

I think you would know that I have lived in Cambodia up until just a few weeks ago. Now back in Sweden though. Some statements regarding products are quite arrogant and contributes to setting the wrong expectations on products, if they would include all features in all models then there wouldn't be different models right? With cameras and other tech being 20-35% cheaper in many countries in Asia I would say that a large chunk of the difference is already wiped out. I've bought all my stuff in Cambodia as it is 30-35% cheaper than in Sweden, a few stores there import themselves from Singapore.

Maybe I overreacted on this post though and for that I apologize. :-[

Me too. I just accused you right away. Sorry. I'm just tired of people bragging about their equipment. Well, I too bought my equipment mostly here in Malaysia since it's cheaper than buying it at home.

Making up now

I would never brag about equipment, what is there to brag about... I wouldn't even brag about taking a good picture if I managed to do that someday.

I did buy my 60D three years ago att KLCC and also there it was a great difference to the prices in Sweden. I found the prices in Phnom Penh being consistently lower than even in Hong Kong. At least in those shops where they import themselves, in the official Canon dealer on the main street it's close to Swedish prices though. That's where the rich Khmer goes to show off their money buying the most expensive stuff.

Anecdote: the PM's nephew bought a Hasselblad a couple of years ago, it was rumored to be in the 20k range. As far as I know he never used it.

 

[expatinasia]

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Well, I too bought my equipment mostly here in Malaysia since it's cheaper than buying it at home.

Another expat? Where are you from verysimplejason.

BTW, I have to state that while some in Europe and the US do have very impressive camera collections, there are some countries in Asia which put them to shame. I am often at events where some pros that are new (maybe flew in from overseas especially for whatever it is we are covering) will quietly ask me, who the ++++ are these guys, pointing at some of the local pros with lenses far too big for the event they are covering. Is funny really. The last major international event I was at, I was chatting to one local when there was a lull in the match and I asked him which AF case he was using. We both had exactly the same gear 1DX with 400 f/2.8 ii. Oh boy, did I wish I had not asked that question! He had no idea what I was talking about and even walked him through his menu right to the spot. I could tell from his face he had no idea what it was.

Anyway, I think I have gone slightly off topic. Sorry. But let's stop talking about prices in Sweden - everyone knows it is one of the most expensive places in the world! : ;D

It's Friday, are the pubs open yet?! 8)

 

[dgatwood]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

These specs sound nice. Very similar to the current 7D. I look forward to seeing the specs for the 7D MkII.
I still prefer GPS over Wi-Fi, but beggars can't be choosers. Maybe Eye-Fi will come out with a GPS in an SD Card some day.

Eye-Fi will almost certainly never come out with true GPS. There is neither room for the chip nor the antenna inside an SD card, nor does the SD spec allow you to draw enough power to do GPS and much of anything else at the same time.

Looks like I've just lost interest in the 70D. I was going to buy one instantly if it were a crop body with GPS. No GPS, no interest. Looks like I'll be shooting yet another Europe trip with my venerable XTi.

 

[whothafunk]

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I really don't see all the hassle regarding GPS. I think it's useless. GPS is useful in cars and mobile phones if you're lost, but geo-tagging? Couldn't care less and certainly will not be a deal maker or breaker.

 

[Pandypix]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

So release date will be advised soon now all I have to is how many $$$$ too many and I will have to start my buy list again. :'( :'(

 

[Hobby Shooter]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

Well, I too bought my equipment mostly here in Malaysia since it's cheaper than buying it at home.

Another expat? Where are you from verysimplejason.

BTW, I have to state that while some in Europe and the US do have very impressive camera collections, there are some countries in Asia which put them to shame. I am often at events where some pros that are new (maybe flew in from overseas especially for whatever it is we are covering) will quietly ask me, who the ++++ are these guys, pointing at some of the local pros with lenses far too big for the event they are covering. Is funny really. The last major international event I was at, I was chatting to one local when there was a lull in the match and I asked him which AF case he was using. We both had exactly the same gear 1DX with 400 f/2.8 ii. Oh boy, did I wish I had not asked that question! He had no idea what I was talking about and even walked him through his menu right to the spot. I could tell from his face he had no idea what it was.

Anyway, I think I have gone slightly off topic. Sorry. But let's stop talking about prices in Sweden - everyone knows it is one of the most expensive places in the world! : ;D

It's Friday, are the pubs open yet?! 8)

Ok no more about that :

Oh you mentioned the pub, that's another thing that's super expensive here. What was I thinking moving back?

 

[scrup]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List


Finally a new sensor. This might slow down t5 sales as people will wait for t6 now.

 

[dgatwood]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

I really don't see all the hassle regarding GPS. I think it's useless. GPS is useful in cars and mobile phones if you're lost, but geo-tagging? Couldn't care less and certainly will not be a deal maker or breaker.

It is for me. I like to know where pictures were taken. That might be practical if I shot a couple of dozen pictures per day. When I go on a two week vacation, though, I average 2-3,000 shots—on the order of a couple of hundred shots per day. Without geotagging, it is completely infeasible to figure out where each shot was taken with much more precision than "Somewhere in [insert city here]." With geotagging like I have on my iPhone, I just load the pictures into Lightroom, click the Map tab, and I can see where the photo was taken to within a few feet.

I've been waiting six years for Canon to release a crop body with GPS. I guess I can wait another year. I was just hoping to actually have GPS for the photos I'm going to take in September. At this point, given that they've already shipped the 6D with GPS, I can't imagine even contemplating buying a camera without GPS knowing that there's about a 90% chance that they left it off the 70D because they plan to save that "advanced feature" for the next 7D.

So I'll continue waiting. Again.

 

[expatinasia]

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Ok no more about that :

Oh you mentioned the pub, that's another thing that's super expensive here. What was I thinking moving back?

Of course, but I get the impression that you are not back for good, so soak up the cultural benefits of being in Europe, and thank your lucky stars it is not winter, as I have seen those YT videos of what you Swedes get up to after too many schnapps! Even Anthony Bourdain partook in such a refreshing dip I believe!

 

[lycan]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

I'm pretty sure 70D did not inherit 7D's AF, just because 7D has a dedicated processor just for the AF + Dual Digic4 processors. Dedicated processors is what makes 7D's, 5DIII's and 1D's series AF so splendid.

5DIII doesn't have dual digic 5+...



And if 70D has GPS than then body will be like the 6D

 

[AvTvM]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

exactly same situation at Nikon and Canon: still no replacement for 7D and D300s.
70D closely matching D7100, both re-using the old phase AF-systems of the former top APS-C cameras.

Most important prediction: 70D sensor with 20 MP and only 1 stop "better" than 7D will be NO MATCH for Nikon D7100 sensor and IQ - not in resolution and not in DR - I expect a 1-stop difference in Nikon's favor.

Apart from sensor, 70D and D7100 are very closely matched. Body quality very similar with some metal structure on the inside and a lot of plastics everywhere else. Definitely no complete Mg-alloy shell. Viewfinder (pentaprism, 100% coverage, somewhere between 0.94x to 0.98x magnification), single SD-card slot, pop-up flash w/wireless flash commander, no AFMA.

Some advantages for Canon: 7fps vs. 6fps, fully articulated LCD, better live-view implementation w/hybrid AF (Contrast + on-sensor phase-detect), probably better video and built-in WiFi.

Definitely nothing that would justify pricing above D7100 - currently @ € 1,000 / body.

 

[Don Haines]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

I suppose the only thing MORE worthless than DxOmark's sensor scores, are their lens scores. Absolutely worthless.

How can you say that? DXO scores the 50f1.8 higher than the 600f4.0 so it MUST be a better lens........ (Huge sarcasm tag inserted here)

 

[carlosmeldano]

Canon 8D?

What about Canon 8D?

http://www.fotoplus.su/catalog/photo/canon/5542/

As the 70D along with 8D was present on this site hours before the 70D specs leaked, I wouldn't be suprised if 8D also gets announced, and 7D2 will be a whole different body with different sensor.

What if 70D is like 60D in quality and AFMA, and 8D is like a more robust 7D, and 7D2 is something even better next year, even with a new and bigger sensor.

 

[Tanja]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

does that mean this sensor will be in the 7D MK2 too?

how likely do you think is it?

and do you think this sensor is using a better manufacturing process?

i really don´t want/need more MP but DR and low iso noise performance of the recent sony sensors would be nice.

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List

It's an interesting spec list. This new camera isn't far off the current 7D specs.
19 point AF and 7fps!

 

[Tanja]

Re: Canon 8D?

What about Canon 8D?

http://www.fotoplus.su/catalog/photo/canon/5542/

As the 70D along with 8D was present on this site hours before the 70D specs leaked, I wouldn't be suprised if 8D also gets announced, and 7D2 will be a whole different body with different sensor.

What if 70D is like 60D in quality and AFMA, and 8D is like a more robust 7D, and 7D2 is something even better next year, even with a new and bigger sensor.

or maybe the 8D IS the 7D MK2?
the replacement of the current 7D.

they also would make room for a completely new 7D speeddemon with an APS-H sensor?
that way the naming in canons lineup would make more sense too, if there ever will be a new APS-H sensor.

FF:
1D
3D
5D
6D

APS-H:
7D

APS-C:
8D
70D
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