dilbert said:
Did you just come up with so you had something to complain about? How, exactly, is this a problem in any way, shape, or form in the "real world"?
Seriously ppl! Complaining about the letter B?!?!?!
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Canon EOS-b Images Leak & a New Kit Lens
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Did you just come up with so you had something to complain about? How, exactly, is this a problem in any way, shape, or form in the "real world"?
Seriously ppl! Complaining about the letter B?!?!?!
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Albi86 said:It all makes perfect sense except that the price tag is supposed to be 800$. Is that the entry-level?
Sometimes it's more expensive to make something smaller. And just because it's smaller doesn't mean it has to be a lower level.
The question is will the build quality be good enough to satisfy people used to XXD or XD bodies. I've read that the EOS-M build quality is good and I hope this follows suit.
And if a body only version is available for $699 that's reasonable. I have no desire for any EF-S kit lens.
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Albi86 said:It all makes perfect sense except that the price tag is supposed to be 800$. Is that the entry-level?
It'll start out at $800 but will drop over time, as other Canon cameras do.
Also I don't get all the hate for the sensor, having just got a 650D (stop gap before going FF) it holds up quite well with my 50D sensor, and that's using L lenses.
If Canon listened to people on the internet, they'd never release a camera as they'd never be able to meet peoples unrealistic expectations. I probably won't be buying this camera myself, but I can see it's appeal and the reasons for Canon producing it.
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taperoo2k said:Albi86 said:It all makes perfect sense except that the price tag is supposed to be 800$. Is that the entry-level?
It'll start out at $800 but will drop over time, as other Canon cameras do.
Also I don't get all the hate for the sensor, having just got a 650D (stop gap before going FF) it holds up quite well with my 50D sensor, and that's using L lenses.
If Canon listened to people on the internet, they'd never release a camera as they'd never be able to meet peoples unrealistic expectations. I probably won't be buying this camera myself, but I can see it's appeal and the reasons for Canon producing it.
Yes, electronic stuff tends to cost less and less as time goes by and it becomes outdated. That's a general situation, not a peculiarity of canon cameras. I still think the price is very steep for the sort of camera.
And... Eeerrrr.... Are you impressed because the sensor in your 650D holds up well with its previous generation? Is that something to rave about....?
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Likewise.... ISO has bumped up and it probably has on-sensor AF to help in live-view and movie modes.Ewinter said:
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Ewinter said:
want to bet? ;D
I will. I bet, I will laugh very hard, if Canon brings these 2 totally outclassed DSLRs to market and sales will be .. very .. disapppointing. Like the crappy EOS-M. Not good enough, Canpon. We do not buy!!!
HAHAHAHAHA!
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CanNotYet said:
Well, first, reason tells us that She is invisible. Because -- well, like, duh! Have you ever seen Her?
But it is faith that informs us that She is pink....
b&
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I for one like the camera. I like all the mirrorless movement, but I just can't live without an optical viewfinder. But I love their size and weight. I'd prefer to have my 5D or 7D for work but also have a small DSLR for travel and walkaround that doesn't weigh too much.
I remember an interview long ago with a Canon exec, in which he was asked about mirrorless planning, and he said something like "its not a question of having a mirror or not, people want smaller cameras with DSLR IQ. We will meet that need". I like that approach, since the EOS-M sucks at both AF and viewfinder (having none).
That said, of course that its size imposes limitations. For example, I can't think of any lens other than the kit lens, that would fit the camera and be comfortable to hold, without being front heavy. If they release a couple more lenses that are lightweight but fast/nice IQ/better than kit lens, then it'll be something else...
As a sidenote, I looked closely at the lens mount on the picture... is it me or the mount (not the ring, but the locks inside of it) are plastic? They don't shine as much as in the other DSLRs. Of course it could be just a lighting thing, but the animated GIF got me wondering... maybe its just a camera meant for kit lenses?
I remember an interview long ago with a Canon exec, in which he was asked about mirrorless planning, and he said something like "its not a question of having a mirror or not, people want smaller cameras with DSLR IQ. We will meet that need". I like that approach, since the EOS-M sucks at both AF and viewfinder (having none).
That said, of course that its size imposes limitations. For example, I can't think of any lens other than the kit lens, that would fit the camera and be comfortable to hold, without being front heavy. If they release a couple more lenses that are lightweight but fast/nice IQ/better than kit lens, then it'll be something else...
As a sidenote, I looked closely at the lens mount on the picture... is it me or the mount (not the ring, but the locks inside of it) are plastic? They don't shine as much as in the other DSLRs. Of course it could be just a lighting thing, but the animated GIF got me wondering... maybe its just a camera meant for kit lenses?
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Freelancer said:Don Haines said:
again.. the old 650D sensor had this already. :
so they better have improved that to be at least usefull, to make a difference.
One is ISO 100-25600 (EOS-B), the other is 100-12800, expandable to 25600. Of course it is a rumour and the EOS-B number could really be 1 of 3 things.... 100-12800 with 25600 expanded, 100-25600 with no expansion, or possibly 100-25600 with expansion beyond that. Since Canon tends to market with the unexpanded range, that would imply one of the two last choices, an improvement over the 650.
It is very possible that canon is switching over to a new manufacturing process for it's sensors and 18Mpixel just happens to be the small ones.... with the rumoured 24M for the 7D and possibly somewhere in the middle for the 70D.
Also has anyone else noticed this?
7D2
70D
700D, or T5i
Have the stars alligned and are we to blessed
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What's the point of this camera, just because they cannot release anything competitive in the mirrorless market, so they reduce the size and the weight of their dslr??
Maybe Canon has a point, they know their fanboz love whatever they come out as long as it can mount ef lens
Maybe Canon has a point, they know their fanboz love whatever they come out as long as it can mount ef lens
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dilbert said:
Where else are people complaining about the letter "b" in the simple and benign name "EOS-b"? We only get that kind of crazy here on CR.
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iP337 said:EOS-B stands for "Baka", which is Japanese for fool, as in April Fools... ;-P
just my two cents
I wonder if in the naming scheme of small bodies (US vs Japan vs the rest of the world), there is still room for the aforementioned '100 D' monicker.
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mrsfotografie said:iP337 said:EOS-B stands for "Baka", which is Japanese for fool, as in April Fools... ;-P
just my two cents
I wonder if in the naming scheme of small bodies (US vs Japan vs the rest of the world), there is still room for the aforementioned '100 D' monicker.
EOS-Bukake? :-\
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Canon used to have an FT-b. No idea what the "b" stood for. But it must have some significance if they are reusing it. Maybe it's "b" for "baby"?
Anyways, as someone who likes small cameras, I'll be curious to see it in the flesh. But I'm a little surprised that they didn't go for a more modern / cutting edge design.
Anyways, as someone who likes small cameras, I'll be curious to see it in the flesh. But I'm a little surprised that they didn't go for a more modern / cutting edge design.
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