Canon EOS M5 Spotted at Russian Certification

Khufu said:
I've not fanned any rumour-flames recently, sooo...
Shall we talk about the significance of the big ol' '6D' they've slapped on the Wireless Module's labeling? I'm sure it's nothing...

There's no possibility of an adapter being used with the 6D since it only has one memory card slot (not to mention that it already has wi-fi).
 
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I'm a happy owner of Canon SL1 - because of that I'm obviously very interested to see SL2 and/or a replacement of Canon M3. I'm in a constant battle with myself whether I should switch to mirrorless already. I'd love to have a mirrorless version of my SL1, just the existence of EF-M 22mm lens is enough reason. :)

That got me thinking. I suppose SL1 was a huge success, so it is a natural thing to continue that idea. But what if there will be no SL2 and SL1 was just an experiment to check if the market wants a body like that? Maybe upcoming M5 will be a mirrorless version of SL1? That could be wishful thinking, but SL1 body (obviously without space for a mirror) with EF-M mount and new sensor would be amazing.

To sum up, I'm thinking that SL2 is not coming and M5 will have a similar body to SL1. :) What do you think?
 
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The Panasonic GH5 specs look ready to blow the Canon M line out of the sky at least for video use.
Although maybe the need for 4k at present may be a bit exaggerated, the same could be said for Megapixel count. 80% of the population would be fine with 8 megapixel jpegs, just like 80% is fine with 1080p @ 30fps. Human nature leaves us wanting more and better, and we expect that in today's modern world. If Canon took the same approach to megapixel count as they take to their semi-pro camera line for video, they would be giving away huge market share to Sony and Panasonic. A few mistakes by Canon and Nikon have let Sony and Panasonic work themselves into the camera/photography market. It is a competitive market these days for sure.
 
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pokerz said:
Ebrahim Saadawi said:
EOS M5 (dream)

-80D Sensor
(Makes it suitable for high dynamoc range landscapes and serious 24mp photography for portraiture)
-DPAF for stills and video
-Touch panel with selfie position
-Headphone/mic jacks
-4k video or at least 1080p with no aliasing at 60p
(Quality video + selfe LCD + DPAF makes it THE vlog/youtube camera)
-Large grip
-Viewfiner or new better cheaper separate one that has a show mount on top of it.
-DPRaw
-Antiflicker
-High frame rate (6-7) at least
-Silent electronic shutter mode (weddings)
(DPAF + high burst + antiflicker would make it suitable for sports)
-USB 3.0
-Wifi/NFC

I mean they can do it. It's just marketing keeping this EOS M from us. Which with an EF adapter and just one ef-m (22mil) would be my A camera, for portraiture (great sensor), landscape (great DR and high res), and professional videography (4K/good HD with EVF and DPAF and tilt panel), I wouldn'r need another camera really. I am no Fullframe-affectionato. APS-C is a big sensor.

who gonna buy rebel again :'(?

May be they should just phase out the rebel ...
 
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rsdofny said:
pokerz said:
Ebrahim Saadawi said:
EOS M5 (dream)

-80D Sensor
(Makes it suitable for high dynamoc range landscapes and serious 24mp photography for portraiture)
-DPAF for stills and video
-Touch panel with selfie position
-Headphone/mic jacks
-4k video or at least 1080p with no aliasing at 60p
(Quality video + selfe LCD + DPAF makes it THE vlog/youtube camera)
-Large grip
-Viewfiner or new better cheaper separate one that has a show mount on top of it.
-DPRaw
-Antiflicker
-High frame rate (6-7) at least
-Silent electronic shutter mode (weddings)
(DPAF + high burst + antiflicker would make it suitable for sports)
-USB 3.0
-Wifi/NFC

I mean they can do it. It's just marketing keeping this EOS M from us. Which with an EF adapter and just one ef-m (22mil) would be my A camera, for portraiture (great sensor), landscape (great DR and high res), and professional videography (4K/good HD with EVF and DPAF and tilt panel), I wouldn'r need another camera really. I am no Fullframe-affectionato. APS-C is a big sensor.

who gonna buy rebel again :'(?

May be they should just phase out the rebel ...

Ideally the features on the 760D would just trickle down to cheaper bodies. I really think Canon would benefit if they just made it easier to get into the EOS ecosystem, which is basically all that remains of the market for devices dedicated to photography.
It really is surprising how many features they were willing to put on the M3.
One of the most exciting things about the rumor is the "More Classical Design" part.
If "Classical" means "More Dials" then they're basically giving it features normally reserved for high end SLR bodies (I don't know why Canon is always so protective of their dials), and eliminating 99% of the reason I want a Fuji.

If they give the M5 a dedicated ISO dial it would be a dream come true.
 
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eosuser1234 said:
The Panasonic GH5 specs look ready to blow the Canon M line out of the sky at least for video use.....
Where are you getting your GH5 specs from? Rumor or fact?

As a GH4 shooter (for my video work) I'm extremely interested. The GH4 probably blows anything M and lots of others out of the sky for video. For video under 1600 iso it also leaves my 5D MkIII gasping for respectability.

-pw
 
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9VIII said:
If they give the M5 a dedicated ISO dial it would be a dream come true.

no, what for? Even the EOS M (1st gen) has a *multifunction wheel* on which ISO can be set to the bottom "press" on that wheel [instead of "delete"] ... one quick press, then turn the wheel and set ISO as desired. There is also no reason for a monofunctional EV +/- dial. Or for a hardcoded shutter speed dial. or for a monofunctional aperture ring. In the analog times, thiose where necessary. In a digital, multifunctional user interface as good as Canon's [EOS, not powershot!] UI is ... no need for all those Fuji-style dials and buttons all over the camera.
 
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AvTvM said:
9VIII said:
If they give the M5 a dedicated ISO dial it would be a dream come true.

no, what for? Even the EOS M (1st gen) has a *multifunction wheel* on which ISO can be set to the bottom "press" on that wheel [instead of "delete"] ... one quick press, then turn the wheel and set ISO as desired. There is also no reason for a monofunctional EV +/- dial. Or for a hardcoded shutter speed dial. or for a monofunctional aperture ring. In the analog times, thiose where necessary. In a digital, multifunctional user interface as good as Canon's [EOS, not powershot!] UI is ... no need for all those Fuji-style dials and buttons all over the camera.

So why did Canon just add another easy access toggle to the 7D2, 1DX2, and 5D4 that lots of people like setting to ISO? (According to the Canon rep in the 5D4 preview video.)

Ever since I started reading about photography one of the most commonly mentioned reasons that people like "high end" camera bodies is the tactile nature of the controls.
If multifunction controls are so good why doesn't Canon make a 1D with just one wheel?

It's either useless on everything or it's better on everything (excluding cameras marketed to the Selfie market).
 
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a digital camera only needs 1 dial [Mode select] and 2 wheels for shooting parameters - if UI is as good as Canon's EOS as on 80D upwards:
1x rear thumb-wheel, multifunction, press sensitive, mode-sensitive
1x top front wheel, multi-functional, mode-sensitive
no problem to press rear wheel or button to select desired parameter (e.g. ISO) and then dial in desired value.
EV +/- is implemented perfectly in Canon EOS UI (on thumb wheel)
Ideally combined with a fully articulated touch LCD for live view shooting / on tripod.

Anything else is as retro and useless to me as Fuji or worst of all: Nikon Df.
 
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AvTvM said:
no problem to press rear wheel or button to select desired parameter (e.g. ISO) and then dial in desired value.

I feel like this is some kind of attempt at conditioning.

People should ask for at least four wheels so that Canon might actually implement three.
But if someone really wants four then we should actually be talking about a camera with five dials.

Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO, Compensation Value... And I've always wanted a wheel for manual colour temperature adjustment on the spot.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
9VIII said:
Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO, Compensation Value... And I've always wanted a wheel for manual colour temperature adjustment on the spot.

You forgot the mode dial, and the strength dial for the built in K-cup brewer.

Right, we need a wheel with 10 Custom Function profiles, plus bigfoot mode, and as long as it's a 4K coffee machine it would probably be met with near universal applause.
 
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