Canon teases Canon EOS R8 and Canon EOS R50 announcement happening this week

[nunataks]

Im surprised CR hasn’t posted about these leaks yet, I leaked all this stuff almost 6 hours ago and PhotoRumors posted my submission already

 

[neuroanatomist]

For people saying the R8 has the R6 II sensor, I understand it's the same MP but how do you know it's actually the same sensor?

I’m not sure it is, but besides the same 24.2 MP, Canon usually doesn’t hesitate to use the phrase ‘newly-developed’ in their descriptions, even with a tiny tweak (say, a few nm difference in CFA spectral sensitivities).

For the R8 they say, “Canon-developed 24.2-million-pixel CMOS image sensor,” no mention of new. That suggests it’s re-used from something, most likely the R6 II.

 

[JustUs7]

For people saying the R8 has the R6 II sensor, I understand it's the same MP but how do you know it's actually the same sensor?

Spec sheet says ISO 100-102,400 (expandable to 50 - 204,800) and focusing range -6.5 to 21. If it’s not the same, it would seem to perform the same.

 

[ryanbird]

im a M6 user.. is it stupid for me to switch to r50?

 

[neuroanatomist]

im a M6 user.. is it stupid for me to switch to r50?

Why do you want to? If there are RF lenses you want to use, it makes sense. Personally, the lack of an ultrawide RF-S zoom (like the EF-M 11-22) would preclude me from getting an R50.

IMO, if your current system meets your needs, why switch? The R50 isn't going anywhere (except maybe to be replaced by a MkII) if you change your mind down the road. I doubt the EOS R APS-C system will ever yield as small a package as an M kit. For me, the M6II with the M11-22, M18-150 and M22/2 makes an excellent and versatile travel setup (I have all the M lenses, actually, but those three are my most-used).

 

[JustUs7]

For me, the M6II with the M11-22, M18-150 and M22/2 makes an excellent and versatile travel setup (I have all the M lenses, actually, but those t

That’s my wife’s setup except the 32 f/1.4 instead of the 22. She’s very happy with it.

 

[Skux]

Is there a mechanical shutter mode on the R8? The specs only mention EFCS and electronic...

I also noticed the R8 blurb makes no mention of continuous shooting speeds...

 

[EOS 4 Life]

R8 is shaping to be a good little camera, but I would have personally preferred it to drop the viewfinder to reduce size and price by another $200 so it will match RP's introductory MSRP $1299.

R9?

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Spec sheet says ISO 100-102,400 (expandable to 50 - 204,800) and focusing range -6.5 to 21. If it’s not the same, it would seem to perform the same.

Maybe Canon developed a new sensor that is identical in every way.
The R and D costs would be zero.

 

[cary]

Is there a mechanical shutter mode on the R8? The specs only mention EFCS and electronic...

I also noticed the R8 blurb makes no mention of continuous shooting speeds...

Just saw DPR's review before they pulled it: up to 6 FPS in EFCS and 40 FPS in electronic mode. No mechanical shutter mode. Chris confirmed it was the same sensor that is in the R6 Mark II along with same autofocus system.

 

[nunataks]

Just saw DPR's review before they pulled it: up to 6 FPS in EFCS and 40 FPS in electronic mode. No mechanical shutter mode. Chris confirmed it was the same sensor that is in the R6 Mark II along with same autofocus system.

Joystick or rear wheel?

 

[cary]

Joystick or rear wheel?

No AF joystick (or rear wheel that I remember). Same layout as RP, except I think the on/off switch now also has lock option on it. I went back to watch video again and it had been pulled by then (released too early).

 

[SnowMiku]

Just saw DPR's review before they pulled it: up to 6 FPS in EFCS and 40 FPS in electronic mode. No mechanical shutter mode. Chris confirmed it was the same sensor that is in the R6 Mark II along with same autofocus system.

That's a shame it doesn't have mechanical mode, I just learned it has a single curtain only but they do have to cut costs somewhere. From my understanding is mechanical better for F/1.4 lenses at fast shutter speeds? Does the R10/R7 have mechanical mode?

That's pretty impressive how it has the R6 II sensor and AF system.

 

[Chaitanya]

So initial hands on previews are up and other than missing 8 way controller R8 is a decent camera, definitely will be looking for final reviews of these before purchasing.

 

[cary]

That's a shame it doesn't have mechanical mode, they could probably add that in a firmware update if they wanted to. From my understanding is mechanical better for F/1.4 lenses at fast shutter speeds? Does the R10/R7 have mechanical mode?

That's pretty impressive how it has the R6 II sensor and AF system.

Both R7 and R10 have a mechanical mode. Not sure if this will be pulled as well, but here's DPR's initial review of the R8: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-r8-initial-review

"Canon says that both the sensor and processor in the EOS R8 are the same as those of the EOS R6 II, and it can match its bigger brother in many key respects, including image quality, autofocus performance and video quality. There are key differences, though, that mark this as the budget model; for example, there's no mechanical first curtain shutter in the R8 (something Sony did in its comparable a7C), which significantly reduces its high-speed credentials. There are appreciable differences in the hardware and handling of the two cameras, but high-speed photography is the biggest performance distinction between them."

 

[Chaitanya]

Both R7 and R10 have a mechanical mode. Not sure if this will be pulled as well, but here's DPR's initial review of the R8: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-r8-initial-review

"Canon says that both the sensor and processor in the EOS R8 are the same as those of the EOS R6 II, and it can match its bigger brother in many key respects, including image quality, autofocus performance and video quality. There are key differences, though, that mark this as the budget model; for example, there's no mechanical first curtain shutter in the R8 (something Sony did in its comparable a7C), which significantly reduces its high-speed credentials. There are appreciable differences in the hardware and handling of the two cameras, but high-speed photography is the biggest performance distinction between them."

Like Sony's a7C, the Canon EOS R8 features a mechanical shutter mechanism to end exposures, but not the corresponding shutter blades to initiate exposure. This results in a lighter, less expensive shutter assembly but also has some minor knock-on effects.

The most obvious is the reduction in the camera's burst rate: just 6fps in electronic first curtain mode, compared with the EOS R6 II's 12 fps mechanical shutter. But there's also a potential image quality glitch that creeps in at very high shutter speeds (typically 1/1000 sec or faster) when used with very wide aperture values.

from Dpreviews preview, so just electronic 1st curtain shooting while using mechanical shutter(hopefully it will lead to higher flash sync speed).

 

[Skux]

Gordon Laing R8 review

Basically the R6 II brains in an RP body.

 

[nunataks]

The R8 is literally just the RP with a new name lmao Canon is so lazy. They couldn't even add a joystick or control wheel.

 

[cary]

The R8 is literally just the RP with a new name lmao Canon is so lazy. They couldn't even add a joystick or control wheel.

It would have been less confusing if it were called RP Mark II. But the R8 naming kept everyone guessing.

 

[Chaitanya]

The R8 is literally just the RP with a new name lmao Canon is so lazy. They couldn't even add a joystick or control wheel.

Top plate has been redesigned along with welcome internal changes(USB port being 10Gbps from mere 480Mbps). Buffer is massive for camera in its class. Sure missing 8 way controller is a let down but not at all a deal breaker(unlike R50 which has UHS-I SD slot).