Canon to Make a Big Splash at Photokina? [CR2]

neuroanatomist said:
mrsfotografie said:
Yes, but this doesn't preclude EF lenses being 'cropped'. Would be nice as a type of digital TC. However knowing Canon's marketing policies, it's almost definitely not going to happen.

A 'digital TC'? Nope. Canon has very nice optical TCs they'll happily sell you for a few hundred bucks. It's likely Canon will put f/8 AF into the 7DII, the better to induce people to buy a TC to go with their 100-400L...
Which would really please me a lot.
 
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LetTheRightLensIn said:
If you are shooting distant wildlife and such why do you need to store all that dumb wasted boundary pixel stuff?? It stuffs up HDs, makes backing up take longer, fills up CF cards faster, clogs up the camera's buffer more quickly and makes it flush less quickly.

I would love a crop function on my 5DIII. Most of the time, I shoot in mRAW (10mp). I only switch to full RAW (22mp) when I lack the reach I need, and then crop in post. But I would much rather have the ability to crop in-camera, rather than waste all the storage space (both in-camera and after transfer).

On the lens front, I'm eager for the 100-400 II, and hopeful that its reviews will be along the lines of the excellent new 16-35/4IS. It would make an excellent companion to my 24-105 when hiking. (I'm on my 2nd 24-105, and a refresh would be welcome there, as well!) If the 100-400 II isn't announced, or if its reviews fall short, I'll just get a 1.4x III for my 70-200 II, live with the shorter reach, and continue to crop in post.
 
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mrsfotografie said:
JonAustin said:
I would love a crop function on my 5DIII. Most of the time, I shoot in mRAW (10mp). I only switch to full RAW (22mp) when I lack the reach I need, and then crop in post. But I would much rather have the ability to crop in-camera, rather than waste all the storage space (both in-camera and after transfer).

+1

I really cannot imagine shooting in anything other than full RAW. Maybe I'm different than some because I do print large on occasion but I'd rather carry cards than switch modes during a shoot. I now wait to be schooled by those who tell me I'm missing the point. I can take it.
 
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slclick said:
mrsfotografie said:
JonAustin said:
I would love a crop function on my 5DIII. Most of the time, I shoot in mRAW (10mp). I only switch to full RAW (22mp) when I lack the reach I need, and then crop in post. But I would much rather have the ability to crop in-camera, rather than waste all the storage space (both in-camera and after transfer).

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I really cannot imagine shooting in anything other than full RAW. Maybe I'm different than some because I do print large on occasion but I'd rather carry cards than switch modes during a shoot. I now wait to be schooled by those who tell me I'm missing the point. I can take it.

The biggest I've printed is 80x120cm on canvas, and that was from 10 mp. I'm really happy with the results.

Coming from a 40D I've never felt the need for more megapixels so I've stuck to that resolution. 99.99% of my photo's get viewed on a monitor anyway and for that purpose I even process my raws to jpg's with 1920 pixels long edge which is fine.

I must note that I almost never crop, and if I do that on occasion it will be only minor edge crops to remove a disturbing feature on the edge. If the composition isn't right without cropping, the whole photo gets binned.
 
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I know all the speculation is for the 100-400L, but, if I am going to think BIG.... EF 800 mm f/5.6

Just sayin'

I've been thinking about it, and my kit has been updated to the point where I think I'll only be interested in the 100-400 II if it works very well with the 1.4 tc or if the IQ/AF/IS are just outstanding. But the 2x tc with the 70-200 ii has become my travel combination and the 70-200 II has become my short telephoto lens. As a result, I only use the 100-400L for local birding trips (@ 400 mm). A new lens would have to be good enough to expand that niche to justify the expected cost differential.
 
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mrsfotografie said:
LetTheRightLensIn said:
mrsfotografie said:
I wonder if the new sensor technology is a cropping function like that of Nikon.

They need a crop function in their full frame not in their APS-C as much (although there could be some use since some wildlife is way, way out there). That would scarcely be revolutionary sensor tech though! It's trivial, they could do it now if they wanted to with beyond ease with any body they have out if they wrote the firmware for it.

I was suggesting it would be a croppable full-frame camera ;)

Hopefully that is spring 2015.
 
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Lee Jay said:
ahsanford said:
Great answer, thanks. I didn't think about buffer/framerate.

Buffer, frame rate, and file sizes are all good reasons for an in-camera crop on high-pixel-count bodies, even if they are crop bodies already. Extra "magnification" or "reach" are not valid reasons.

Actually that brings up a good counter point though, for video, it actually DOES offer extra reach/mag as valid reasons as well. That is something it's about time they did well for video mode.

Although for still it doesn't.
 
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slclick said:
mrsfotografie said:
JonAustin said:
I would love a crop function on my 5DIII. Most of the time, I shoot in mRAW (10mp). I only switch to full RAW (22mp) when I lack the reach I need, and then crop in post. But I would much rather have the ability to crop in-camera, rather than waste all the storage space (both in-camera and after transfer).

+1

I really cannot imagine shooting in anything other than full RAW. Maybe I'm different than some because I do print large on occasion but I'd rather carry cards than switch modes during a shoot. I now wait to be schooled by those who tell me I'm missing the point. I can take it.

You are missing the point. The point here is some distant wildlife or whanot and where you don't care about the frame borders and would always cut them off before printing or whatnot anyway.

For other stuff I always shoot full RAW and don't bother with sRAW/mRAW which are not 100% true RAW anyway.
 
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docsmith said:
I know all the speculation is for the 100-400L, but, if I am going to think BIG.... EF 800 mm f/5.6

Just sayin'

I've been thinking about it, and my kit has been updated to the point where I think I'll only be interested in the 100-400 II if it works very well with the 1.4 tc or if the IQ/AF/IS are just outstanding. But the 2x tc with the 70-200 ii has become my travel combination and the 70-200 II has become my short telephoto lens. As a result, I only use the 100-400L for local birding trips (@ 400 mm). A new lens would have to be good enough to expand that niche to justify the expected cost differential.

I doubt it since they made it sound somewhat more like a lens for everyone.
 
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slclick said:
mrsfotografie said:
JonAustin said:
I would love a crop function on my 5DIII. Most of the time, I shoot in mRAW (10mp). I only switch to full RAW (22mp) when I lack the reach I need, and then crop in post. But I would much rather have the ability to crop in-camera, rather than waste all the storage space (both in-camera and after transfer).

+1

I really cannot imagine shooting in anything other than full RAW. Maybe I'm different than some because I do print large on occasion but I'd rather carry cards than switch modes during a shoot. I now wait to be schooled by those who tell me I'm missing the point. I can take it.

The point is, keeping 20MB per image of nothing but blue sky is wasteful. It's common for me to be shooting at 640mm-equivalent (400mm on 1.6-crop) and still need to crop 2x or more (meaning, 3/4 or more of the pixels are not part of the final image). I'd rather save the space and have a deeper raw buffer. In fact, I shoot JPEG in these cases largely because of buffer limitations.
 
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mrsfotografie said:
I must note that I almost never crop, and if I do that on occasion it will be only minor edge crops to remove a disturbing feature on the edge. If the composition isn't right without cropping, the whole photo gets binned.

You must shoot a lot of very slow or stationary subjects. It's simply impossible to reliably and accurately frame many of the subjects I shoot, which are often moving as fast as 60 degrees per second relative to me. Shooting those with a 3 degree total field of view, it's hard enough just to keep them in the frame much less to make sure they are perfectly framed.

Essentially, I crop every image I shoot, at least a little.
 
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For a year I've eyed the 28-300L because of the convenience of the range, but the $2500 is too much. I can find them used for less but what I want to know is the IQ really up to L standards?

I suppose the other option is getting a 24-70 and a 70-300. If I go that route, the question becomes which 24-70. Tamron f/2.8, the Canon f/4, or a used Canon f/2.8, which are all in the same ballpark price wise.

BUT... if they come out with a good and less expensive 28-300 I would probably go that way.
 
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