First Images & More Specifications for the Canon EOS 6D Mark II Leak

[Loswr]

Am i the only one that see's LOG beside the GPS on the top LCD? Or it could say IOC (whatever that is)

Also check out the top screen on the 5D mark IV beside the GPS. Is that gap for LOG? aka CLOG?

Just a speculation.

The original 6D top LCD has the same 'LOG' indicator. No, it's not C-LOG, sorry if I'm popping a speculative bubble. The indicator simply means you've turned on the GPS logging feature.

 

[magarity]

Why Canon sticks with mini USB plug, while everybody goes to micro USB long time ago?! It is Canon who force me to keep a separate mini USB around in my house!

The important part is not that you need to keep another cord around. Look at a micro usb cable. See the two little flexible tabs on the bottom? That's what makes it grip into whatever you plug it. Those aren't on the mini. Because the mini puts that inside the socket! Meaning when that wears out, the socket of your device is now no good. The primary design change with micro is that the cable wears out after some thousands of cycles and not the device. Canon has guaranteed the camera's socket will eventually wear out by using mini. I guess they assume users should transfer pictures with the wifi? Great except that sucks down the battery and requires special software.

 

[Diamir]

Am i the only one that see's LOG beside the GPS on the top LCD? Or it could say IOC (whatever that is)

Also check out the top screen on the 5D mark IV beside the GPS. Is that gap for LOG? aka CLOG?

Just a speculation.

Maybe a log mode for the GPS (as it is located just after the GPS icon... like on the 6D). In a log mode it can log a trip.

The GP-E2 GPS from Canon (external device to be used on 7D / 5D_something) has such a mode. It works as a tracker.
The GPS of the 6D has the same mode and the LOG icon is shown when this mode is activated.

See: https://youtu.be/UbipjstEODk?t=3m16s

 

[rrcphoto]

I guess they assume users should transfer pictures with the wifi? Great except that sucks down the battery and requires special software.

transfer via wifi? really? I guess they assume that 99.99999999999% users take the SD card out of the camera and transfer it that way like most of us do.

the USB connection is really used for rare occasions ie: tethering.

if you transfer files by plugging in the camera, well I just don't know.

 

[jmoya]

It's crazy that I say one thing is a big mistake with the camera and people jump down my throat and go nuts...even if I'm a dedicated Canon shooter. When you look at a camera, STOP LOOKING AT IT LIKE YOU'RE THE ONLY PERSON THAT MATTERS AND CAMERAS ARE MADE FOR YOU!!! LMAO, this place is incredible.

The only feature that I honestly can't believe is missing is 4K video. That is going to be the Achilles heel when it comes to the market. It's a buzz word. It's a feature people think they need and, unfortunately, it absolutely needed to be included with this camera.

Why? No other camera at this price point has 4k. Anyone spending $2,000 on a body already knows that - and if they are looking for it they sure as hell won't find it anywhere else either.

So why, exactly, will it be an 'Achilles heel'?

Really? No 4K at this price point? The APS-C Nikon D500 ($1900) and D7500 ($1250) have it. The full-frame A7S ($2000) has it. In APS-C, the A6500 ($1300), X-T2 ($1600), A6300 ($900), X-T20 ($900) all have it. Then basically every micro four thirds camera since 2015 has featured 4K. Cameras like the GH4/GH5 and the OMD-1 MkII have the benefit of using a speed booster to replicate the look of larger sensor depth of field and crop factor too. Granted, sensor size has a major influence on heat and performance, but Sony is about to bring out the A73 this month with 4K and it will likely be in the $1700 range. If you don't believe it's going to hurt sales, you have blinders on.

terms of features and capability.

What 4k capability at $2,000?

See the above massive list of options under $2000 that shoot 4K.

Sadly for Canon, they don't seem to pay much attention to this...almost in a display of arrogance.

They are obviously clearly no more arrogant than Sony, Nikon or anyone else.

Again, Sony and Nikon are on the 4K train. The D750 came out before the 4K craze was a big thing and all of their prosumer and professional DSLRs have featured 4K since last year.

At some point Canon needs to understand that keeping a feature out because they might lose a 5D sale or cinema sale is losing them a CANON sale, above all.

Losing sale to...what exactly?

Already proving your argument wrong by having a much better idea of the current camera market, please reevaluate your stance. Canon is limiting video features in its cameras, everyone knows that. My 5D Mark IV and 1DXII shoot MJPEG only in 4K and have no option for a more efficient codec for those shooting video that DON'T want to grab stills out of a video and are more concerned with storage.

Who has a better idea of the current camera market? You? I think not.

Real World. More and more people are doing more with their cameras. Some of us want to size down. What's in my bag. Drone, 5d3, g7x II, lenses...(dedicated video camera?) I only shoot canon and don't plan on switching because I like the lenses I have and have taken years to build up my collection. But I've thought about leaving for awhile now due to the lack of innovation and poor, poor DR in their sensors and crap video frame rates. My canon g7x mark I shoots 60fps at 1080. Its a few years old. This canon 6d mark II does the same and costs 4 times more. All my cinematic slo-motion clips on my travel videos use the g7x mark I because my canon 5d3 only does 30fps. SMH.
Real World. More and more people are doing more with their cameras. Some of us want to size down. What's in my bag. Drone, 5d3, g7x II, lenses...(dedicated video camera?) I only shoot canon and don't plan on switching because I like the lenses I have and have taken years to build up my collection. But I've thought about leaving for awhile now due to the lack of innovation and poor, poor DR in their sensors and crap video frame rates. My canon g7x mark I shoots 60fps at 1080. Its a few years old. This canon 6d mark II does the same and costs 4 times more. All my cinematic slo-motion clips on my travel videos use the g7x mark I because my canon 5d3 only does 30fps. SMH. All shot on canon except for the drone shots. Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/cha...

 

[Too_Many_Hobbies]

I am afraid I fall into the category that really wanted to see 4K on the 6D Mark II (although I was pretty certain it wouldn’t be offered).

I currently have a 7D Mark II, 6D, 70D, Sony RX100 MIII and Panasonic FZ1000. The Pany is my video camera these days as it has a good zoom range, is pretty easy to use/keep with me, and has 4K video. Video is almost entirely of my kids these days, and what kills me is when it goes out of focus and hunts when indoor with low light. I don’t care how good the video quality is when it can’t maintain focus. I also really wish this camera had exposure comp when using auto ISO in manual mode. I love that in the 7D and wish the 6D had it.

My wish list on the 6D included 4K and higher frame rates for video (like 120 in 1080) and a headphone jack as the internet tells me I need that. I also hope that it has good eye/face detection – not sure if that applies when shooting through the view finder or only in live view? I prefer the viewfinder personally. These days I really care more about just hitting focus with my kids and capturing the moment, and not worrying so much about settings.

Really would like to see what the buffer is like – 6.5fps if true is a surprise (for me) and with a good buffer I think I will save some money and get this instead of the 5DMIV. Flip touch screen is a plus in my book. I assume it will have exposure comp in manual mode and good enough auto focus.

On the 4K front for me, it is one of those “future proof items” as well as something to give me some latitude in cropping and stabilizing footage in post, or so I believe if I ever get some time to learn how to edit video properly. I have Premier 5 from before the subscription stuff happened and it cannot edit 4K, and I can't spend the extra$$$ when I have no time to use the new version.

If the 1080p video is “really good” with rolling shutter controlled enough for tracking kids then it checks enough boxes for me to upgrade. For monitors, I have 1 4K monitor that I use to view and edit pictures (and some video) a 1440p monitor, and a surface with whatever the heck weird higher than 1080p resolution it has. No 4K TVs yet…kind of waiting to upgrade my projector from 720p to 4K before anything else…and have my kids get old enough so they are not scared of a really big picture .

 

[Loswr]

Why Canon sticks with mini USB plug, while everybody goes to micro USB long time ago?! It is Canon who force me to keep a separate mini USB around in my house!

The important part is not that you need to keep another cord around. Look at a micro usb cable. See the two little flexible tabs on the bottom? That's what makes it grip into whatever you plug it. Those aren't on the mini. Because the mini puts that inside the socket! Meaning when that wears out, the socket of your device is now no good. The primary design change with micro is that the cable wears out after some thousands of cycles and not the device. Canon has guaranteed the camera's socket will eventually wear out by using mini. I guess they assume users should transfer pictures with the wifi? Great except that sucks down the battery and requires special software.

The important part is that your images are stored on a memory card which can be removed from the camera, inserted into a card reader (or with many computers, directly into an SD slot), and images transferred in that way (and generally, much faster).

I honestly don't remember the last time I connected my camera directly to a my computer.

 

[TedBedlam]

Why Canon sticks with mini USB plug, while everybody goes to micro USB long time ago?! It is Canon who force me to keep a separate mini USB around in my house!

The important part is not that you need to keep another cord around. Look at a micro usb cable. See the two little flexible tabs on the bottom? That's what makes it grip into whatever you plug it. Those aren't on the mini. Because the mini puts that inside the socket! Meaning when that wears out, the socket of your device is now no good. The primary design change with micro is that the cable wears out after some thousands of cycles and not the device. Canon has guaranteed the camera's socket will eventually wear out by using mini. I guess they assume users should transfer pictures with the wifi? Great except that sucks down the battery and requires special software.

The important part is that your images are stored on a memory card which can be removed from the camera, inserted into a card reader (or with many computers, directly into an SD slot), and images transferred in that way (and generally, much faster).

I honestly don't remember the last time I connected my camera directly to a my computer.

I can! My old DVX-100B and there was a power surge that fried the port one night. Never again.

 

[LonelyBoy]

Why Canon sticks with mini USB plug, while everybody goes to micro USB long time ago?! It is Canon who force me to keep a separate mini USB around in my house!

The important part is not that you need to keep another cord around. Look at a micro usb cable. See the two little flexible tabs on the bottom? That's what makes it grip into whatever you plug it. Those aren't on the mini. Because the mini puts that inside the socket! Meaning when that wears out, the socket of your device is now no good. The primary design change with micro is that the cable wears out after some thousands of cycles and not the device. Canon has guaranteed the camera's socket will eventually wear out by using mini. I guess they assume users should transfer pictures with the wifi? Great except that sucks down the battery and requires special software.

The important part is that your images are stored on a memory card which can be removed from the camera, inserted into a card reader (or with many computers, directly into an SD slot), and images transferred in that way (and generally, much faster).

I honestly don't remember the last time I connected my camera directly to a my computer.

I can! My old DVX-100B and there was a power surge that fried the port one night. Never again.

Mine was when I forgot the camera was plugged in and moved the laptop and sent the camera to the floor. It still seems perfect (5D3 can handle more than an 18" drop to carpet), but never again. Never.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Re: look at that usb port!

Holy smokes, still mini-usb? I thought my 6D was odd to have that instead of micro usb. I know better than to expect usb-c but now mini is downright ancient.

And, it works with thousands of accessories. It would be really stupid to change it just for the sake of change.

 

[PHOTOPROROCKIES]

Who has a better idea of the current camera market? You? I think not.

Where the hell did I make a claim like that? Canon is absolutely aware of the camera market and what I'm doing is calling all of its implementation of 4K and LACK of implementation a mistake. A perfect example would be the G7X2 versus the RX100V which have the exact same sensor and price point and the Sony offers 4K and the Canon doesn't. I don't care about this stuff at all, but I know for a fact consumers shopping for cameras DO care about features like that - even if they're not going to use it or even know how to.

Where on earth did you see the same price point?

B&H Sony RX100V $998 G7XII $679.99

AMAZON.DE RX100V 1031.99 euros G7XII 548.00 (sale from 685)

Exactly! The RX100V is $1249.99 CAD and the Canon G7XII is regularly $899 CAD.

 

[tron]

Why Canon sticks with mini USB plug, while everybody goes to micro USB long time ago?! It is Canon who force me to keep a separate mini USB around in my house!

The important part is not that you need to keep another cord around. Look at a micro usb cable. See the two little flexible tabs on the bottom? That's what makes it grip into whatever you plug it. Those aren't on the mini. Because the mini puts that inside the socket! Meaning when that wears out, the socket of your device is now no good. The primary design change with micro is that the cable wears out after some thousands of cycles and not the device. Canon has guaranteed the camera's socket will eventually wear out by using mini. I guess they assume users should transfer pictures with the wifi? Great except that sucks down the battery and requires special software.

The important part is that your images are stored on a memory card which can be removed from the camera, inserted into a card reader (or with many computers, directly into an SD slot), and images transferred in that way (and generally, much faster).

I honestly don't remember the last time I connected my camera directly to a my computer.

I can! My old DVX-100B and there was a power surge that fried the port one night. Never again.

Mine was when I forgot the camera was plugged in and moved the laptop and sent the camera to the floor. It still seems perfect (5D3 can handle more than an 18" drop to carpet), but never again. Never.

Well, I have used this method of transfer only for a couple of weeks until i replaced a rather faulty card reader. I haven't destroyed a camera but I have done exactly the same with my laptop and a portable usb disk. 1TB of disk data dead

 

[Jerryrigged]

Until 4K becomes more mainstream, 1080p is good enough. Even TV stations to this day don't broadcast in 1080p. By the time the 6DIII comes around, it will probably have 4K.

Someone who absolutely needs 4K for their work should probably look at the 5DIV or Sony or Panasonic GH5 instead. There's really no use in whining on a forum, and the best way to convey your dislike is with your wallet.

I'm one of those people who would have loved to see 4K in the 6D2. I shoot BOTH photography and videography at weddings. I have the 5D4 and Sony A6500 and original 6Ds (2X). The 5D4 is great as it does both photo and video very well. The A6500 is awesome for video, but I don't use it for photos. A 6D2 with 4K would have been awesome to shoot along side the 5D4 - taking both great photos and video. However, I'm not whining... I understand not everyone needs this versitility. In fact, with the excellent image quality I'm expecting from the 6D2, along with what could be very respectable 1080p (with dual pixel AF), I still will consider the 6D2 as a solid backup camera... probably selling my 2 6Ds in exchange for a 6D2.

 

[Loswr]

The important part is not that you need to keep another cord around. Look at a micro usb cable. See the two little flexible tabs on the bottom? That's what makes it grip into whatever you plug it. Those aren't on the mini. Because the mini puts that inside the socket! Meaning when that wears out, the socket of your device is now no good. The primary design change with micro is that the cable wears out after some thousands of cycles and not the device.

Oh, and with mini-USB port if you transfer images by connecting your camera every single day, you can expect the port on the camera to fail after ~13 years (based on the specified port rating of 5,000 cycles). If you buy a 6DII and it fails after 13 years due to the mini-USB port, I'll personally buy you Canon's top-of-the-line full frame camera in 2030. Deal? : : :

 

[Too_Many_Hobbies]

Personally I want USB-C so I can do something with the cables I bought for my Note 7 before having to return it ;D

 

[Loswr]

Personally I want USB-C so I can do something with the cables I bought for my Note 7 before having to return it ;D

Are you saying you want the 6DII to be an explosion/fire risk?

 

[LonelyBoy]

Personally I want USB-C so I can do something with the cables I bought for my Note 7 before having to return it ;D

Personally I want USB-C so I have an excuse to buy another laptop... 8)

 

[Ozarker]

I think Canon has designed this camera to kill the second hand 5D3 market.

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[zim]

Any thoughts on how af point illumination will be handled? I can recall some had issues with newer designs black points in some situations.

 

[Maiaibing]

With its reduced price and with paper specs that shine golden I predict Canon has a real killer FF in the making. The proof will still be in the pudding. But its looking like an amazingly good value offer with its new sensor, improved AF array and 6.5 fps.

I've always been optimistic that the 6DII sensor would beat the 5DIV sensor as we saw with the 6D > 5DIII.

For us who love ultimate IQ the 6DII may be the next thing for high ISO shooting.