Images of the Canon EOS M6 & EVF Have Leaked

Re: Canon EOS M6 & EVF Images Have Leaked

okaro said:
Hector1970 said:
Not very pretty or anything. It looks functional.
Why do Canon and other companies go for that type of screen.
Is the flippy screen more vulnerable to damage or take up more space at the back.
I think the flippy screen is a much more usable design and you can protect it but turning it inwards.

With this I guess it's what's inside that matters. FPS and image quality.

The flippy screen is much harder to operate if one wants to just tilt it upwards. Also it affects the way you hold the camera.Turning it inwards made more sense when you ha a viewfinder. It is typical for technology that things get simpler.

it does suck for portrait shooting though.
 
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ShootingStars said:
Can anyone answer my question if the screen can tilt upwards all the way and not down all the way like the M5?
Apparently yes.
(Image from Nokishita.)

canon_3.jpg
 
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I really hope this gives us an indication of how the new full frame mirrorless will be styled, just bigger. I love the looks and handling of the M3. I haven't grown to love the M5's EVF (it kinda kills the style of the camera), but I think I could enjoy a full frame with a removable EVF and built in flash.

I know a lot of people will give me a hard time, worrying about how the camera looks, but it does make a difference. People are a lot less likely to buy a camera that they don't enjoy holding.
 
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Re: Canon EOS M6 Images Have Leaked

rrcphoto said:
manual + auto ISO it's useful as well. I actually found it a useful on the M3, even though I originally thought I wouldn't be using it.

Never said it isn't - it gives surely more freedom in selecting shutter speed and aperture to achieve a desired result (as long as noise doesn't get too much in the way).

But every time one of the three shooting parameters is automatically controlled, some subject could need exposure correction. Manual and auto ISO will still turn a snowy landscape into a gray one, for example - and it will happen until meters fully understand colors and don't think the world is 18% gray.

For the target market of the M cameras, a dedicated dial make sense. My sister uses it extensively on her G11 - she rarely, if ever, switch to manual for tricky subjects.
 
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Re: Canon EOS M6 & EVF Images Have Leaked

LDS said:
okaro said:
Styles change. Black may soon fall out of fashion. It became in fashion ten years ago. Up to about 2006-7 many cameras and home electronic devices were silver.

Canon went "black" already in the '80s starting with the A-1 and New F-1 (IIRC the original F-1 was too) which were "all black".

Since then, most high-end models have been black, while among more consumer oriented models often attempted different colors. But I don't believe black will become unfashionable, especially because it avoid reflections.

Silver looks good if it is (or look like) real metal, and its retro look may stay. The silver plastic used years ago looked cheap already back then on any device.

I went to the Canon Camera Museum to check. In 1986-95 SLR cameras were 22-1 black. The only silver one was the last one. In 1996-05 the film SLR were 8-5 silver (or similar light color). The more entry level ones were more in silver. Now there might have been two versions in some cameras and only one was shown but thus sill supports the assumption of channing styles. Compact cameras very vary much in silver.

So if you buy black if may look funny in two years. Of course same can happen if you go silver.
 
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NorbR said:
ShootingStars said:
Can anyone answer my question if the screen can tilt upwards all the way and not down all the way like the M5?
Apparently yes.
(Image from NokiS___a.)

canon_3.jpg

I hope you're right, but that photo is not reliable. Another site claims "We have wide LCD screen on the rear side tilting design (85° up, 180° down) to better enable working from high and low angles."
http://thenewcamera.com/canon-eos-m6-images-leaked/
 
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What a waste of development and marketing time and a major fail of program management...

The M5 was fine except for:
- NO 4K
- NO flip out articulating LCD
- NO headphone jack
- NOT enough native EF-M glass

If Canon had fixed those they would have been a contender in mirror less.
I know their mantra is "evolution not revolution" in product development.
But they are so far behind.
We sell boatloads of Panasonic Lumix/Olympus and even Sony mirrorless compared to paltry Canon M series offering/sales.
And the first two models were pathetic compared to the competition.
I can buy anything in the store at a discount and I bought the M5 with 5 lenses and the adapter to stay loyal (over a dozen Canon production work DSLR's and two bridge cameras for happy snapping)
It is ok but just now worthy of usage but compared to the competition - not there, again.
In fact a month ago I also bought the Panasonic Lumix FZ2500 video/bridge camera and it's Leica lens and feature set kick the M5's ass in the pictures produce. Canon has *nothing* to compare in the bridge cam arena and certainly not in a mirrorless product.

THIS M6 model as described and shown in the leak is DEVOLUTION NOT EVEN EVOLUTION and sure as hell is NOT revolution.
 
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rang said:
I bought the M5 with 5 lenses and the adapter to stay loyal

Why stay loyal? Canon is not your wife, your family, or friends . You don't owe anything to it. As long people buy, and sales are good, why should Canon be worried? I would never buy anything I don't like just to "stay loyal".
 
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LDS said:
rang said:
I bought the M5 with 5 lenses and the adapter to stay loyal

Why stay loyal? Canon is not your wife, your family, or friends . You don't owe anything to it. As long people buy, and sales are good, why should Canon be worried? I would never buy anything I don't like just to "stay loyal".

+1. Love Canon and am often accused of being an apologist for them, but I see mirrorless being a work in progress that I will not make major system investment in (with any manufacturer) for the next 5 years or so.

But I would totally buy a small non-Canon setup for travel and avoid building up a collection of lenses/flashes/accessories for it. I'd consider buying a Fuji X rig with a single staple prime or possibly a fixed lens mirrorless rig (x100, RX1, Leica Q, etc.) as I would use it as a smaller travel setup.

Will I ever bolt EF glass on to a future EOS M or Canon FF mirrorless setup? Sure, but my 5D3 would mop the floor with it handling/functionality/responsiveness/battery-wise, so why suffer a downgrade just to enjoy mirrorless? Just wait until mirrorless gets good enough to be nearly seamless for the way you shoot -- for each of us, that timeframe might range from right now (mirrorless enthusiasts) to 10+ years (sports/wildlifers). I'm probably somewhere in the middle, hence my 5 year guess.

- A
 
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Re: Canon EOS M6 & EVF Images Have Leaked

-pekr- said:
Dylan777 said:
Silver???

2cents: Black version looks better since it has the modern body style.

M6, Silver .... maybe Canon got some inspiration from M6, Silver, Leica :-)

http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/images/m6/D3S_8427-1200.jpg

Love the looks of those range style cams, especially with silver top.

Since I can't afford M10, I have x100F(Silver) on pre-order :)
 
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Re: Canon EOS M6 & EVF Images Have Leaked

Dylan777 said:
Love the looks of those range style cams, especially with silver top.

Since I can't afford Leica M10, I have x100F(Silver) on pre-order :)

Fixed that for you, lest we forget our chosen camera company sells a very affordable M10.

- A
 
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rpiotr01 said:
What is the purpose of this camera? That is to say, who is it for? I don't really know.

You need to be more specific. Did you mean...

  • Who wants a camera in this form factor / without an integral EVF?
  • Who wants a mirrorless camera in general?
  • Who wants something that looks like that?

I can't tell if you are disappointed at what it is / what it looks like / what it does or doesn't have, etc. Walk us to the road of your discontent and answers may follow. :)

- A
 
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ahsanford said:
LDS said:
rang said:
I bought the M5 with 5 lenses and the adapter to stay loyal

Why stay loyal? Canon is not your wife, your family, or friends . You don't owe anything to it. As long people buy, and sales are good, why should Canon be worried? I would never buy anything I don't like just to "stay loyal".

+1. Love Canon and am often accused of being an apologist for them, but I see mirrorless being a work in progress that I will not make major system investment in (with any manufacturer) for the next 5 years or so.

But I would totally buy a small non-Canon setup for travel and avoid building up a collection of lenses/flashes/accessories for it. I'd consider buying a Fuji X rig with a single staple prime or possibly a fixed lens mirrorless rig (x100, RX1, Leica Q, etc.) as I would use it as a smaller travel setup.

Will I ever bolt EF glass on to a future EOS M or Canon FF mirrorless setup? Sure, but my 5D3 would mop the floor with it handling/functionality/responsiveness/battery-wise, so why suffer a downgrade just to enjoy mirrorless? Just wait until mirrorless gets good enough to be nearly seamless for the way you shoot -- for each of us, that timeframe might range from right now (mirrorless enthusiasts) to 10+ years (sports/wildlifers). I'm probably somewhere in the middle, hence my 5 year guess.

- A

For last couple years, I have hand-on many mirrorless systems(except Leica). Fuji seems to hit the sweet spot best. From off to ready to shoot is near DSLR. All the control functions are up front. Fuji primes are just amazing. Skin tone from JPEG SOOC is one of the best.
 
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