Leica Announces SL Type 601 Mirrorless Camera
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$7000 for the body and $5000 for the glass... yikes. Comparing MILC to MILC, is this really THAT much better than, say, an a7II with a similar 24-70 lens for 1/3- 1/4 the price? Leica makes great machines but good lord.... I get the size... they want to make it more of robust pro-level size. I don't care for the smaller, typical MILC bodies. 11fps is great but are wildlife/sports/photojournalists really going to consider this camera? No way. So what's left is pure image quality and I can't see it being $6000 better than an Alpha also with 24MP.
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PureClassA said:
The funny bit is that H'Blad tried a similar value proposition with cloning one-step-older-than-current-gen Sony tech into their terrible Lunar/Stellar rigs and they were laughed off the map.
Now, Leica's actually making their own product here and it's likely far better dialed-in for professional use, but spec wise, it's a similar value proposition to H'Blad from before -- underwhelming specs for considerably more money than the spec leaders.
Again, other than wealthy people, I'm whiffing on nailing down who sees this camera's announcement and says "At last! Now I can do _________ that I never could before. Take my money."
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Back in the film days I drooled over Leica cameras and, in particular, lenses. But they were simply out of my budget. However, today, when budget is much less of a concern and we have gone digital, I have great difficulty seeing why I should go that way. In addition to Canon´s eminent L-series, which is getting better for every new release (I´m getting the 35/1.4L II tomorrow), I have Zeiss and, in particular, the Otus series, which is way beyond my skill sets and probably also beyond what Leica can offer. I simply don´t see a single reason why I should pay the premium of getting a Leica.
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Leica will always have a market and for decades now they have not remotely tried to be the everyman's camera. That's fine. This camera isn't aimed at the average working photographer or keener hobbyist, so I wouldn't complain about it not being practical or overpriced...
... Except, even by the standards of Leica, £5,050 for a mirrorless camera which is essentially a Sony A7RmkI in a body the size of a 5D? Just bizarre.
... Except, even by the standards of Leica, £5,050 for a mirrorless camera which is essentially a Sony A7RmkI in a body the size of a 5D? Just bizarre.
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about all the size complaints:
mirror-less is the future. i think that's pretty clear. the mirror someday will not offer any advantage, and will always be a disadvantage in certain ways.
however, that does not mean that mirror-less = small. i think many people prefer the size of their SLRs over the current rage of smaller MILCs, especially when already mounting gigantic lenses.
someday mirrorless cameras will replace SLRs. but the only way to 100% eliminate SLRs is to make some MILCs the same size for those that need the size and robustness. this is just the first step. canon and nikon will definitely follow someday. it's just a matter of time.
mirror-less is the future. i think that's pretty clear. the mirror someday will not offer any advantage, and will always be a disadvantage in certain ways.
however, that does not mean that mirror-less = small. i think many people prefer the size of their SLRs over the current rage of smaller MILCs, especially when already mounting gigantic lenses.
someday mirrorless cameras will replace SLRs. but the only way to 100% eliminate SLRs is to make some MILCs the same size for those that need the size and robustness. this is just the first step. canon and nikon will definitely follow someday. it's just a matter of time.
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Bernard said:
You are making the colossal assumption that this new rig's AF will track like the 1DX. It doesn't.
http://www.cnet.com/products/leica-sl/
From the text review: "For speed shooting, keep in mind that it lacks tracking autofocus, and that its zone AF frequently picks the wrong part of the zone for focusing. Just like everyone else's."
In the video: "With continuous focus and auto exposure, that tests out to about 7 fps for JPEGs."
Just like most Sony mirrorless (and like a Ford Mustang) it's only good in a straight line. High FPS without continuous AF, pedestrian FPS with continuous AF.
Apples and oranges. The 1DX utterly obliterates the value proposition of this this Leica for action work. They are not even in the same time zones.
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unfocused said:
No, you are not the only one. It looks like a German Industrial brick and is not appealing in the slightest. That is what I actually meant by the skin deep thing. It looks like it would probably survive a fall off of a mountain though, so I was curious as to the weather sealing/build quality aspect. I hope Lens Rentals gets one to test/dissect.
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brad-man said:
1) LR typically doesn't dissect $10k+ gear. I'm not sure they'll bite at tearing open such an expensive niche item.
2) Here's what the CNET reviewer thought of the grip -- it's pretty awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu0xNMMhDXY&t=1m10s
(should queue up at 1:10 for the comment in question)
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It looks like a skinnier version of the Leica S, could this be the replacement for the big S? They aren't exactly the same in specs but the SL could be a scale down version of the S.
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I like the large size but wish they put more thought into the grip. Some contours could have made it more comfortable to hold.
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3kramd5 said:
Well, moving the mirror out the way must take a *teensy* bit of power, right? Could even out eventually?
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