Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]

I cannot speak from own experience to the performance of the lenses mentioned. Most likely all of them are "more than good enough", including "professional use". But I have also seen many of the comparison tests and come to mostly the same conclusions as messus, as far as relative performance of the Canon L's he specifically mentioned compared to other manufacturers lenses is concerned. Considering the pprices of these Canon L lenses, they ought to be not only have goood build quality and good AF but also 100% competitive IQ.

And compared to the Nikon 14-24 which even today still beats almost any prime lens in its range, the Canon 16-35 II is simply "sub-par". I consider it a shame for Canon and a pity for its customers, that they are not able to come up with fully competitive or better (!) L lenses. No Canon L lens should not be beaten in the IQ department by a "lowly" Samyang . Not ever.

GMCPhotographics said:
Consider this, most of the best photographs ever taken were taken on quite lowly kit...Steve McCurry, Cartier Bresson...to name a few.

Quite to the contrary. Their gear was NOT lowly. It was the most advanced, very best and definitely not cheap COMPACT + LIGHT, ROBUST and FAST-OPERABLE camera gear available of their times.

http://www.odedwagen.com/2013/01/masters-of-photography-interview-with-steve-mccurry
1984, Afghanistan: McCurry used a Nikon FM2 (launched only in 1982) + Nikkor 105/2.5 (presumably the AI-S version launched in 1981) http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/105f25.htm

HCB used Leica M from the 30ies onward.

Both chose the smallest, IQ-wise fully competent gear available at their time. Not lowly, inexpensive, marketing-crippled gear.

In November 2013 the equivalent would be Sony's A7R with matching Zeiss ZE 55/2.8 and 35/2.8 prime lenses. While far less expensive than a Canon 1D X or D4 plus clunky f/2.8 zooms, the A7R is a very compact system, delivering better IQ than any of these DSLR behemoths. :-)

Unless one needs to or wants to shoot long tele lenses. But then please, don't quote HCB (50mm lens) or McCurry (of whom I do not know a single image taken at more than 135mm focal length). :-)
 
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Vasiliskk said:
85/1.4
85/1.2L III
This is not realistic. 1.4 would compete with 1.2. You may wish it but it will simply not happen.
Vasiliskk said:
35/1.4L II
14-24L
16-35L III
I would these too. Plus they seem a logical next step (Canon please ...)

Vasiliskk said:
135/1.8L IS
Doable but maybe not practical. It would be MUCH more expensive and heavier. It would not be low profile any more. An f/2.0L IS version would be more smaller/lighter/cheaper than this.
 
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tron said:
This is not realistic. 1.4 would compete with 1.2. You may wish it but it will simply not happen.
Doable but maybe not practical. It would be MUCH more expensive and heavier. It would not be low profile any more. An f/2.0L IS version would be more smaller/lighter/cheaper than this.
Ok,
85/1.8II
135/1.8L non IS (sony zeiss 135/1.8, sigma rumored)
 
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Ruined said:
neuroanatomist said:
Ruined said:
I would personally like to see a cheaper & lower build quality version of the 70-300L with similar optics. A proper update of the non-L 70-300 IS USM, in other words...

Canon says, "If you can afford a FF body, you can afford an L-series telezoom." Not saying that I agree, but everyone who fills out the online registration for a lens gives them data on lenses and bodies owned, and income level.
Perhaps, it does not have to be ultra cheap, I am thinking MSRP $1099, with a build quality similar to the EF 100 f/2.8L IS Macro but the optics of the EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L. Another option would be an update of the 70-300mm DO IS with better image quality. I think there is a market for such a lens, but then again I can simply use my 55-250 STM on my crop body when I want to be less obtrusive.

A lens with the build quality of an L-series lens, and the optical quality of the 70-300L...is it me, or does that sound like...the 70-300L. Replace the white-painted metal with black engineering plastic, omit the red ring, and launch it at $300 less than the current price of the L lens? Ummmmm....no, sorry, not gonna happen. Well, it might happen...after FF bodies drop under $1K.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
A lens with the build quality of an L-series lens, and the optical quality of the 70-300L...is it me, or does that sound like...the 70-300L. Replace the white-painted metal with black engineering plastic, omit the red ring, and launch it at $300 less than the current price of the L lens? Ummmmm....no, sorry, not gonna happen. Well, it might happen...after FF bodies drop under $1K.
I think the price is not made ​​up of white paint and red ring. :)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Canon says, "If you can afford a FF body, you can afford an L-series telezoom." Not saying that I agree, but everyone who fills out the online registration for a lens gives them data on lenses and bodies owned, and income level.

And what percentage of photographers do that?

I didn't even now I could register a lens online.
 
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Ellen Schmidtee said:
tron said:
Vasiliskk said:
85/1.4
85/1.2L III
This is not realistic. 1.4 would compete with 1.2. You may wish it but it will simply not happen.

Sigma already has an 85mm f/1.4, which competes with the 85mm f/1.8, if not the 85mm f/1.2. As noted before, reviews show the Sigma to have inferior IQ.
True, but Sigma MUST try to compete with Canon. Canon will not compete with themselves!
 
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tron said:
Ellen Schmidtee said:
tron said:
Vasiliskk said:
85/1.4
85/1.2L III
This is not realistic. 1.4 would compete with 1.2. You may wish it but it will simply not happen.

Sigma already has an 85mm f/1.4, which competes with the 85mm f/1.8, if not the 85mm f/1.2. As noted before, reviews show the Sigma to have inferior IQ.
True, but Sigma MUST try to compete with Canon. Canon will not compete with themselves!

But Canon ignore Sigma?
 
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I am going to guess.

EF 24-70 2.8L IS ($2799, with a $200 price drop on the 24-70 II)
EF 100-400 4.5-5.6L IS II ($2499)
EF 35 1.4 L ($1799)
EF-s 10-22 3.5-4.5 (either stm or usm) I am guessing STM. ($899)
EF-s 17-55 2.8 IS II USM ($1299)
EF-s (or maybe even EF) 70-300 USM ($699), or if they decide that the 55-250 is enough for crop shooters until they can afford the 100-400 II then I would make it 3 EF-m lenses.
2 new EF-m lenses
 
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RC said:
How about a 50mm that is actually worth buying? I'd love a 50L 1.4. No front/back focus issues, sharp wide open, and ring USM. I'd take it with or without IS.

I thought I'd heard/read that the current, newer releases of the 50L f/1.2 pretty much did away with the backfocus issues that the early models had...?

I rented one a couple months ago....but was using it primarily for video, but with the few shots I had time for for stills, I didn't see any backfocus problems with it.

I'd rather have a f/1.2 than a f/1.4.....is bigger/faster not always better?

;)

cayenne
 
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Ellen Schmidtee said:
tron said:
Ellen Schmidtee said:
tron said:
Vasiliskk said:
85/1.4
85/1.2L III
This is not realistic. 1.4 would compete with 1.2. You may wish it but it will simply not happen.

Sigma already has an 85mm f/1.4, which competes with the 85mm f/1.8, if not the 85mm f/1.2. As noted before, reviews show the Sigma to have inferior IQ.
True, but Sigma MUST try to compete with Canon. Canon will not compete with themselves!

But Canon ignore Sigma?
They have a very good value for money 85mm 1.8 and a superb 85 1.2L II that most probably focus much better than Sigma... :)
 
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Ellen Schmidtee said:
tron said:
They have a very good value for money 85mm 1.8 and a superb 85 1.2L II that most probably focus much better than Sigma... :)

I keep hearing the 85mm f/1.2L II focuses so slowly... ;-)
The 85 1.2L II focusing keeps coming back as a problem. It is clearly a love or hate lens. I am in the love category. I can only say that when you learn how to use it and you don't shoot F-1 cars coming right at you, it is a phenomenal lens. But if they updated it with same IQ, added IS and a faster (regular USM) focusing mechanism, I'd probably buy it.
 
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