New EOS-1 Camera Information [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>Not an EOS-1D X upgrade


</strong>Over at <a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_1D_Xs.html" target="_blank">NL</a> they’re being told to expect a new EOS-1 camera for Photokina in 2014. With <a href="http://nikonrumors.com/2013/12/19/nikon-rumors-what-to-expect-in-the-next-two-months.aspx/#more-68014">Nikon perhaps readying a high megapixel D4X</a> in time for the Olympics, Canon is apparently (finally) ready to enter the high megapixel professional space. The camera won’t be the fabled “EOS 3D”.</p>
<p>This new EOS-1 camera will be not be “dual pixel”, that and other new features will be saved for the successor to the EOS-1D X.</p>
<p>Lenses for the new camera touting resolution and image quality will be announced in the months surrounding this new EOS-1 series body.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_1D_Xs.html" target="_blank">NL</a>]</p>
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[SDsc0rch]

do. not. want.

i could give a rip about the "megapixels war"

i shoot sports/action as well as night/long-exposure/highISO environments - the 1DX is *fast* and has awesome high ISO performance (given to it by, i'm told, the LOWER pixel count and thus "larger" individual pixel size)

so.. my initial reaction to a high megapixel sensor in the next pro body: probably not my cup of tea

 

[dufflover]

So what are you whinging about? LOL. 1D-X for action. Another 1D-type for high resolution. At least the choice is there unlike their crop space which is stuck sensor wise.

Funny how this rumour reads like Canon only releasing stuff to respond to the competition. So the sooner Nikon brings out a D300 replacement, the better for us 7DII-type camera wanters!

 

[scottkinfw]

I'm with you. Wouldn't mind a few more mpx's, but not interested in ton's more. Would like more DR (please no flame wars), but keep high fps, and excellent high ISO performance. Interested to see what the "new features" will bring, and how the Dual pixels will fit in.

scott

do. not. want.

i could give a rip about the "megapixels war"

i shoot sports/action as well as night/long-exposure/highISO environments - the 1DX is *fast* and has awesome high ISO performance (given to it by, i'm told, the LOWER pixel count and thus "larger" individual pixel size)

so.. my initial reaction to a high megapixel sensor in the next pro body: probably not my cup of tea

 

[takesome1]

Maybe I want to much, but we should stop thinking we need to give up one thing for the other.

I would like to see more DR, less higher ISO noise, more MP and a fast frame rate.
Plus I want it to have a silent mode so it doesn't scare off my wildlife.

 

[tron]

All I want is a 5DMkIV (with the same megapixels) with 2 stops improved ISO and at least 2 stops improved DR.

OK: 1. I know I am off topic 2. I am dreaming 3. I could not resist the temptation to post this ;D

Seriously now, I believe Canon should advance their sensor technology (even a little) before attempting a big megapixel increase. This is series 1 after all. IQ has to be really good.

 

[Moulyneau]

Whether future buyer or not, its always interesting to see new tech stuff coming up.

 

[RGomezPhotos]

Well, we're talking September when it will be shown. Plenty of time to stir up rumors ;D

I just hope it's not a 'nice update' to the 1DS MKIII. It's got to kick ass. Resolution is good. But tonal-range has to be dramatically improved. There's just no reason not to expect that.

 

[sb in ak]

I mostly want to see ever better ISO, more DR, and I'll take a few more MPs if they aren't at the expense of those things. A 1D series body will be beyond my budget though. And beyond what I really want to carry most of the time anyway.

 

[Viggo]

I remember the price if the 1ds3 at launch... This won't come cheap, at around 10k, guessing of course, it won't be interesting for me for anything else than to see what Canon can do tech wise. All more mp's does for me is make the camera worse.

 

[Eldar]

I am sure we can expect a very potent sensor in this camera. I believe Canon has been working on this for a long time, but been waiting to release it. I would be very surprised if they came out with just a tiny step on the evolution ladder from a 1DsIII or the 1DX.
I am really looking forward to a really high resolution, high DR body, to complement the 1DX, which I am sure will be my preferred action and low light body also after this new one comes along.

 

[DaveMiko]

My 1DX has got it all, as far as I'm concerned, so, I guess, I'll look at the new lenses that will be announced.

 

[traveller]

Why are people always whining about megapixel counts and noise? Have they not heard about downsampling? The real tradeoff is between resolution and shooting speed, not noise. Your choice if this rumour come true is simple: want to print really big? Choose the 1D Xs; want to shoot really fast? Choose the 1D X.

 

[GMCPhotographics]

So what are you whinging about? LOL. 1D-X for action. Another 1D-type for high resolution. At least the choice is there unlike their crop space which is stuck sensor wise.

Funny how this rumour reads like Canon only releasing stuff to respond to the competition. So the sooner Nikon brings out a D300 replacement, the better for us 7DII-type camera wanters!

And there is is irony....the 1Dx was to unify the two 1D ranges...the 1DIII and 1DsIII into a single body and a single range....but the 1DX came out at the price point of the old 1Ds range....if the 1DX proves to be nothing more than a full frame 1D series...then how much will Canon charge for their 1Ds replacement? Silly money I guess.
The wheels on the bus seem to go round and round...with two top end 1D series cameras, one for speed and the other optimised for resolution. It's easy to see the same split happening with the 5D4 / 6DII cameras as well. With the 70D being such strong specs, there is only one way for the 7DII to go spec wise...upwards.

 

[traveller]

And there is is irony....the 1Dx was to unify the two 1D ranges...the 1DIII and 1DsIII into a single body and a single range....but the 1DX came out at the price point of the old 1Ds range....if the 1DX proves to be nothing more than a full frame 1D series...then how much will Canon charge for their 1Ds replacement? Silly money I guess...

+1

Whether Canon were genuinely intending the 1D X to replace both digital 1-series lines, or whether this was just FUD whilst they developed a high-res sensor for a 1Ds MkIII replacement, the outcome will be the same! (assuming this rumour is correct). With the talk of a Pentax 645D MkII, I'm not sure that there's quite as much headroom above the 1D X as there otherwise might have been, nevertheless I think it's safe to assume at least a $£€1000 premium.

 

[RGomezPhotos]

The 1DX is a GREAT camera. I drooled over it via the youtube video and a Canon rep demo'ing it. I too bought into 'the unification of the 1-series'. It sort of makes sense.

But as a fashion and portrait photographer, I'm more interested in dynamic range vs. speed. And at the end of the day and looking at images, it doesn't offer any improvement over my 5DMKII. I think the 1DX is a big jump for sports/action photographers. But fashion and portrait? Nada.

 

[RGF]

I'm with you. Wouldn't mind a few more mpx's, but not interested in ton's more. Would like more DR (please no flame wars), but keep high fps, and excellent high ISO performance. Interested to see what the "new features" will bring, and how the Dual pixels will fit in.

scott

Like to have a 1D"x" with an APS-C sensor. Granted I will lose 1-2 stops of noise/DR, but w/ 200-400 (320-640) that would be great wildlife / safari lens.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Maybe I want to much, but we should stop thinking we need to give up one thing for the other.

I would like to see more DR, less higher ISO noise, more MP and a fast frame rate.
Plus I want it to have a silent mode so it doesn't scare off my wildlife.

Its always a trade off, Designers design to a certain price point and each new feature is priced. More bandwidth = faster processor = more power usage = larger battery = new battery charger = more heat dissipation and cooling issues ... the list goes on.

 

[ronderick]

Why is it that I'm getting this feeling Canon went out of its way to integrate the Eos 1D and 1Ds series into the 1 DX, and now everything is going back to the D and Ds format again?

 

[dgatwood]

<p>This new EOS-1 camera will be not be “dual pixel”, that and other new features will be saved for the successor to the EOS-1D X.</p>

Then I'll wait for the dual-pixel version. High resolution should not preclude usable focusing in live-view mode. It's worth waiting for one that can do both. I'm fed up with buying camera bodies that include half the features I want, forcing me to choose between two substandard choices. I expect the top model of any product to be full-featured, containing everything that's available in any of the lower models. Any departure from that is a serious design failure.

As the Dalai Lama said to the New York hot dog vendor, make me one with everything.

Until then, I'll stick with my 6D, and swear at the autofocus while giggling with glee at the GPS and the ease of tossing photos onto Facebook.