New Unique Macro Coming? [CR1]

[Vivid Color]

How's aboot a 200mm f4 IS 2.5:1 L in white.

I think Daniel has the answer..... A White macro lens .....

And it needs to come with a white hood.

 

[Dalantech]

I'm more than satisfied with my MP-E 65.
Think I'd rather Canon looked at a mark II of the MT-24EX.

Registered an account on this forum just to agree with you 100% -the current Mt-24EX is in desperate need of a refresh!

 

[slclick]

I'm more than satisfied with my MP-E 65.
Think I'd rather Canon looked at a mark II of the MT-24EX.

Registered an account on this forum just to agree with you 100% -the current Mt-24EX is in desperate need of a refresh!

I think 'desperate' is a tad reaching. I'd love to read your proposed list of updates and fixes to the flash.

 

[mrzero]

I'm more than satisfied with my MP-E 65.
Think I'd rather Canon looked at a mark II of the MT-24EX.

Registered an account on this forum just to agree with you 100% -the current Mt-24EX is in desperate need of a refresh!

I think 'desperate' is a tad reaching. I'd love to read your proposed list of updates and fixes to the flash.

RT

 

[Pixelzoomer]

Re: New Unique Macro Coming? [CR1]

Yes, and that is the intrinsic issue with cameras with deep mirror boxes, you can't use extreme tilts because of shadowing, further, the longer the focal length the more tilt you need, both of which are why field cameras range to 40º and more whereas the Canon T/S lenses have a very modest 8º.

Although it isn't the proximity to the subject that causes the issue, it is the very short J point distance, the line around which the plane of focus rotates, needed to get a wide range of plane of focus control.

Thanks for that, it is something I never thought of.

 

[RGF]

Perhaps a combination Macro with builtin step motor to allow focus stacking. Hard to imagine how they would do this in the lens alone but perhaps Canon is referring to some sort of accessory along with the lens?

Could this be more easily implemented in software in camera as opposed to in the lens?

That would be a cool capability if Canon could have automated focus stacking as an option with all their lenses.

I wonder how difficult it would be to program?

Automated focus stacking already exists. There is a device called StackShot (I own one) that makes this easy. For all practical purposes you can't do this in the lens because any extension of the lens changes the magnification. You need to move the entire camera - which is what StackShot does.

Perhaps that is what will make this lens unique? change the focus distance without focus blooming?

 

[privatebydesign]

Personally I think Keith Coopers idea of a telecentric macro would be the most amazing 'unique' feature. Imagine doing focus stacking where the objects in frame stay the same size through the pull.

It is the kind of 'because we can' lens that Canon have a habit of throwing down, like the 17TS-E f4L, the 8-15 f4L fisheye, the MP-E 65, the 11-24 f4L. Indeed looking at that list I suspect if will be an f4L ;D

 

[Dalantech]

I'm more than satisfied with my MP-E 65.
Think I'd rather Canon looked at a mark II of the MT-24EX.

Registered an account on this forum just to agree with you 100% -the current Mt-24EX is in desperate need of a refresh!

I think 'desperate' is a tad reaching. I'd love to read your proposed list of updates and fixes to the flash.

Bummer -I didn't get a notification that you quoted me. So I guess I should start by showing you, if you're still interested, in what I've done with the current MT-24EX. Here's a video of my current diffuser. Here' what I'm able to do with it:

Finger Fed Bumblebee III by John Kimbler, on Flickr

In addition to the changes that Canon made to the MR-14EX II I'd like to see in an updated MT-24EX:

• The same type of diffusion plastic that was used in the MR-14EX, or better still the same kind of wide angle diffusion plastic that you see in a standard flash's wide angle diffuser. The MT-24 really needs something to force the light to spread out as rapidly as possible, and the current Fresnel diffuser doesn't cut it.
• The modeling lamps need to be just focusing aids, made from LEDs, and two of them should be on each side of each flash head on both sides of the flash tube. Currently, due to the location of the modeling lamps, diffuser design is a pain. Maybe even incorporate the focusing LEDs into the flash tube assembly, behind the diffuser where the flash tube is located.
• There needs to be a better way to mount third party diffusers. The little indents on the side of the current MT-24 EX only work for light weight diffusers.

That's just a short and sweet wish list. I'm sure some misguided individuals would like to see a wireless twin flash but it would be a mistake. Just look at all the complaints about battery life and cycle times from Nikon users about the R1C1 for proof...

 

[jeffa4444]

A zoom macro (1:1). Wasn't such rumored from Canon at some point, or have I been dreaming.

Yes, there was a patent for this. Indeed, it seems perhaps the most likely lens to be coming - maybe to replace
the 180mm macro.
Nikon had a 70-180 macro, so a zoom macro is not exactly new. But the nikon could only do 1:3 at 70mm.
So, a zoom with IS that goes to 1:1 all the way, would be novel.
people questioned the use of a macro zoom, but for long lenses, a zoom is really useful, because adjusting the frame would mean moving forward or backward over seizable distances, more than a focus rail usually can do.

That Nikon zoom was techically a close-focus zoom 1:1 or greater throughout the range is needed to be truly Macro. No one has ever made a "true" macro zoom not even in high end cinematography.
50-150mm f2.8 1:1 zoom would be a world first and cover the majority of the present true macro 1:1 or greater range on full frame.

 

[scyrene]

Perhaps a combination Macro with builtin step motor to allow focus stacking. Hard to imagine how they would do this in the lens alone but perhaps Canon is referring to some sort of accessory along with the lens?

Could this be more easily implemented in software in camera as opposed to in the lens?

That would be a cool capability if Canon could have automated focus stacking as an option with all their lenses.

I wonder how difficult it would be to program?

Automated focus stacking already exists. There is a device called StackShot (I own one) that makes this easy. For all practical purposes you can't do this in the lens because any extension of the lens changes the magnification. You need to move the entire camera - which is what StackShot does.

Well you *can*... I've done focus stacking the lazy way with the MP-E by 'zooming' (which in this lens changes the magnification of course), and HeliconFocus (and no doubt other software) manages fine. The finished image is the dimensions of the smallest frame though, of course. But sure, it's not as good a way of doing it.

 

[privatebydesign]

Whilst stacking is done optimally by maintaining focus and moving the camera and lens, refocusing does not present too many extra issues most of the time.

That said, one of the many features of the wireless remote control CamRanger is to automatically refocus by a set amount and reshoot, it makes accurate many image stacks very simple, it obviously only works on auto focus lenses though.

 

[RGF]

<p>We’re told that a “world’s first” macro is coming from Canon some time in the next year. This is all we were told and can’t even begin to guess what the “world’s first” would mean.</p>
<p>Canon has been pretty innovative in lens design, from the EF 8-15 f/4 zoom fisheye, the 1.4x built-in teleconverter in the EF 200-400 f/4L IS, and the latest EF 11-24 f/4L ultra wide. All 3 of those lenses are pretty creative.</p>
<p>We hope to hear more soon.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

if by the next year, you mean next 12 months, time has passed.