Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

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intrigue.photography said:
Whelp... Looks like I made the right decision in going with the Nikon D750 (with lens for the same price as this body). One card slot on a $2k camera is a deal killer for me. :o

I was really hoping they wouldn't do this so I could keep using my Canon lenses on a rig with DPAF and a tilty screen.

You might be the only person around here who actually bought one of those instead of just complaining that Canon doesn't make one. Good job! In all sincerity. :)
 
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1 SD Card Slot is a huge let down.
Although you might never use this feature... if one card dies, it's essential.
Protect to force the wedding and professional photography market to buy higher market cams instead of this otherwise perfectly capable piece of equipment. Plain and simple.
 
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BillB said:
Hornet said:
wildwalker said:
Hornet said:
I'm surprised to see any manufacturer in 2017 not adding 4K, especially at this price point. I guess all of the energy, vision, and innovation is with the competitors these days, with the exception of Nikon. I don't see anything here that's the slightest bit exciting and that would cause me to upgrade from my existing 6D.

The equivalently price Sony and Nikon bodies do not offer UHD, so why would the Canon?

I'm not sure what would be a Sony equivalent other than maybe the 4-year old A7R with much, much better image quality. Nikon is probably the least innovative camera maker today so not much of an example for Canon to follow.

ok There is no equivalent price FF Sony. Therefore Sony does not offer an equivalent price FF Sony with UHD. Nikon does not offer an equivalent price camera with UHD. No other manufacturers offer FF cameras with UHD. So why are you surprised that Canon is not offering UHD on the 6DII?

Bingo. :)
 
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BillB said:
So why are you surprised that Canon is not offering UHD on the 6DII?

Because I wants it, my Precious. I wants my 4K and I must haves it, Precious.

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Hornet said:
wildwalker said:
Hornet said:
I'm surprised to see any manufacturer in 2017 not adding 4K, especially at this price point. I guess all of the energy, vision, and innovation is with the competitors these days, with the exception of Nikon. I don't see anything here that's the slightest bit exciting and that would cause me to upgrade from my existing 6D.

The equivalently price Sony and Nikon bodies do not offer UHD, so why would the Canon?

I'm not sure what would be a Sony equivalent other than maybe the 4-year old A7R with much, much better image quality. Nikon is probably the least innovative camera maker today so not much of an example for Canon to follow.

Have you actually tried the Sony A7? Or are you just assuming it has "much, much better image quality" because you read it on the internet? As someone who bought a Sony to replace my 6D, I found the image quality to be slightly better ...on my 6D, that is!
 
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Yasko said:
1 SD Card Slot is a huge let down.
Although you might never use this feature... if one card dies, it's essential.
Protect to force the wedding and professional photography market to buy higher market cams instead of this otherwise perfectly capable piece of equipment. Plain and simple.

I would expect a professional, making money from their photographic business, to by a business model, I think the 5DMk4 is a semi-pro body (i could be wrong). However, the 6D is 'entry level' FF. A pro should not run their business on 'entry level' equipment.

Perhaps, from what you are saying, their is room for another FF model? Between the 5 and the 6 series? Or a 6Ds that has more features, but is still below the 5DMk4?

I don't know, I'm not a marketing person and I don't have the figures on DSLR sales to see if there is that kind of market granularity.

What do you guys think?
 
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goldenhusky said:
Sounds like a decent camera for the price. Hope they do not skip the GPS. I guess there is one down side to the cellphone based GPS data like in the M6, it is impossible to get the GPS data while hiking a trail without any cell phone signals. Somebody correct me if I am wrong here. I know that phone have dedicated GPS receiver but to get the location they need to download the map with needs data connection. I hope the SD card slot is UHS-ll. The other items I had hoped for in the past were dual card slots and 4k@30p, 1080@ 180fps. Sounds like none of those are happening. My thought is that all these specs are still speculations. Lately it almost sounds like nobody gets specs unless nok____ta leaks the actual specs a day to a week prior to launch. If these are in fact the actual specs I do not see a point in getting this while I have a 5D4 and 80D. I am really happy with that combo. And for Video I have Sony a 6500. I will definitely buy 6D2 if it has 1080p@180fps and 4k and canon charges a $500 extra. I can get rid of the Sony system completely

My phone's GPS (iPhone 5) works perfectly even without any cell connectivity. So did my iPhone 4. Can't remember the 3G did or not
 
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Specs seem quite o.k. for me. Just waiting for information/data about
* image quality (primary concern for me)
* precision/hit rate of AF + exposure
* ergonomics/usability

While some only focus on things it has not --- I see a unique combination of very good on chip AF + flexible screen: Great freedom for unusual compositions from lower or elevated point of view + non-standard composition (everything which is not center AF point oriented :) .

And it is cheap enough to think about a two body solution with 16-35 f/4 (or 24-70 f/2.8 OS) + 70-200 f4 lenses.
 
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sabeast said:
Which camera would you guys recommend, Canon 5D Mark IV, Wait For 6D Mark II, Sony A7Rii For Fashion, Street, Product Photography?

All will do the job. You will for certain have better after sales service at Canon.
I would go with 5d4.
 
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I hope they kept the GPS in there. Using my phone's GPS for photos isn't convenient because you need to have wifi or bluetooth turned on the camera and phone, which also drains battery on both devices. I don't care about 4K at this point (or else I'd just get the GH5). 1080p120 would've been pretty nice though.
 
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Act444 said:
Thanks for sharing.

Seems good, although I have to admit a single card slot is a bit of a disappointment given the same money can get you a 5D Mark III or D750, either with dual slots.

Also - did they remove the GPS that was in the original...??

True enough, but neither the Mark III nor the D750 is going to get you a moveable screen with touchscreen autofocus, which will be very nice for tripod work (although not so useful if you have a thing about using a tripod). You pay your money and you take your choice. If I get the 6DII, and start obsessing about card failure, I guess I would have to explore wireless off camera backup.

My guess is that they haven't confirmed that the 6DII has GPS, so they aren't saying one way or the other. If they knew for sure that there was no GPS, I'm pretty sure that we they would be telling us.
 
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Seems as if a lot of people commenting are not relly the target market. One guy already has a 5D series and an 80D. This camera is aimed at semi pros on a tight budget or enthusiasts and first time FF buyers. I've been involved in photography since the 80s but I consider myself a bad photographer unfortunately. I'm really excited about these specs they hit all my wants. I hope it's designed with Rebel like ease of use too. Yeah I use auto modes and scene modes. I said I'm a bad photographer. If someone needs more than this entry level FF then Canon does offer that. Sounds like the 5D IV is ideal for some naysaers here. I'm very happy with the budget decisions that went into this camera. Sure I would love to have 5D build quality, 4K, dual card slots, even more focus points and a blonde in a bikini to manage my lenses but then I could not justify the price Canon would charge. At this point I am salivating and hope performance meets my expectations (better high ISO, better DR, fps not too slow - 6 will be great, hope auto focus especially tracking is a step or even half step above 80D). We will soon know more!
 
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IglooEater said:
goldenhusky said:
Sounds like a decent camera for the price. Hope they do not skip the GPS. I guess there is one down side to the cellphone based GPS data like in the M6, it is impossible to get the GPS data while hiking a trail without any cell phone signals. Somebody correct me if I am wrong here. I know that phone have dedicated GPS receiver but to get the location they need to download the map with needs data connection. I hope the SD card slot is UHS-ll. The other items I had hoped for in the past were dual card slots and 4k@30p, 1080@ 180fps. Sounds like none of those are happening. My thought is that all these specs are still speculations. Lately it almost sounds like nobody gets specs unless nok____ta leaks the actual specs a day to a week prior to launch. If these are in fact the actual specs I do not see a point in getting this while I have a 5D4 and 80D. I am really happy with that combo. And for Video I have Sony a 6500. I will definitely buy 6D2 if it has 1080p@180fps and 4k and canon charges a $500 extra. I can get rid of the Sony system completely

My phone's GPS (iPhone 5) works perfectly even without any cell connectivity. So did my iPhone 4. Can't remember the 3G did or not

Cellphone based GPS means
* standard GPS receiver which operates independently of cellphone networks but which is
* Assisted by the cellphone network therefore called A-GPS

While building a simple GPS coordinate displayer (NEO7 GPS board + arduino + LCD display + power bank) for teaching purposes I learned a little bit about what A-GPS is for: The cellphone can load satellite orbit data via the communication network which is much faster than loading the same data from the satellite. In a creek you need maybe lots of attempts to get at least the three satellites and the orbital data from the satellites.

If the reveiver module has the orbital data, a GPS fix is obtained within seconds: The satellite receiver just compares time signals from the satellites [and therefore needs the precise orbit data to calculate the satellite position within 10m uncertainty (at satellite speeds of 7000m per second). It's really fun to see how good this works!].
 
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IglooEater said:
goldenhusky said:
Sounds like a decent camera for the price. Hope they do not skip the GPS. I guess there is one down side to the cellphone based GPS data like in the M6, it is impossible to get the GPS data while hiking a trail without any cell phone signals. Somebody correct me if I am wrong here. I know that phone have dedicated GPS receiver but to get the location they need to download the map with needs data connection. I hope the SD card slot is UHS-ll. The other items I had hoped for in the past were dual card slots and 4k@30p, 1080@ 180fps. Sounds like none of those are happening. My thought is that all these specs are still speculations. Lately it almost sounds like nobody gets specs unless nok____ta leaks the actual specs a day to a week prior to launch. If these are in fact the actual specs I do not see a point in getting this while I have a 5D4 and 80D. I am really happy with that combo. And for Video I have Sony a 6500. I will definitely buy 6D2 if it has 1080p@180fps and 4k and canon charges a $500 extra. I can get rid of the Sony system completely

My phone's GPS (iPhone 5) works perfectly even without any cell connectivity. So did my iPhone 4. Can't remember the 3G did or not

thank you.
 
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bereninga said:
I hope they kept the GPS in there. Using my phone's GPS for photos isn't convenient because you need to have wifi or bluetooth turned on the camera and phone, which also drains battery on both devices. I don't care about 4K at this point (or else I'd just get the GH5). 1080p120 would've been pretty nice though.

Very valid point. A good case to include GPS receiver.
 
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