R5 formally confirmed as 45 MP?

SteveC

R5
Sep 3, 2019
1,164
925
OK, I'm either blind as a bat, or the only place I see 45 is in front of two zeros. So are you claiming there are 4500 myriapixels (myria being an old metric prefix for 10,000)?
 

vjlex

EOS R5
Oct 15, 2011
351
255
OK, I'm either blind as a bat, or the only place I see 45 is in front of two zeros. So are you claiming there are 4500 myriapixels (myria being an old metric prefix for 10,000)?
万 = 10,000
4500万画素 = 45,000,000 pixels
45 megapixels
 
  • Like
Reactions: Viggo

SteveC

R5
Sep 3, 2019
1,164
925
万 = 10,000
4500万画素 = 45,000,000 pixels
45 megapixels
OK, that makes sense! Thanks for clarification. (I figured the only way it could be is with a 10,000 multiplier in there, I just didn't know/recognize the Japanese symbol. And it's interesting to me that there IS a simple symbol that means 10,000 (and apparently not one that means 100,000 or 1,000,000 or those would have been used instead). I so used to powers of a thousand this is an interesting feature.
 

vjlex

EOS R5
Oct 15, 2011
351
255
OK, that makes sense! Thanks for clarification. (I figured the only way it could be is with a 10,000 multiplier in there, I just didn't know/recognize the Japanese symbol. And it's interesting to me that there IS a simple symbol that means 10,000 (and apparently not one that means 100,000 or 1,000,000 or those would have been used instead). I so used to powers of a thousand this is an interesting feature.
Same here. I'm a foreigner living in Japan for over a decade, and still the numbers here confuse me and take me a while to figure out.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jethro

SteveC

R5
Sep 3, 2019
1,164
925
Same here. I'm a foreigner living in Japan for over a decade, and still the numbers here confuse me and take me a while to figure out.
You're ahead of me. The numerals are legible, the occasional romaji is legible--nothing else is.

The Japanese writing system, being a blend of several different systems, is probably the hardest one in the world. Anyone who can read it while remembering to breathe must be a genius.
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: stevelee and vjlex

ahsanford

Particular Member
Aug 16, 2012
8,615
1,627
I just hit translate on the tweet. It's an option if you click on the tweet itself (takes you to Twitter) and then click on it's text a second time (will pull up a dedicated page for that thread). It's not perfect but it gets the point across.

- A
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Joules

Joules

EOS R
Jul 16, 2017
915
1,009
Hamburg, Germany
I just hit translate on the tweet. It's an option if you click on the tweet itself (takes you to Twitter) and then click on it's text a second time (will pull up a dedicated page for that thread). It's not perfect but it gets the point across.

- A
To make a comment on the subject rather than the intricacies of the Japanese written language:

Odd that they didn't come out of the closet with the resolution when they did the development announcement. 45 MP is very much exciting, but since they kept that of all things secret for so long I still feel a bit disappointed they didn't have something special left up their sleeves. I mean, the R5 throughput already puts all other cameras to shame, seemingly ignoring the common sense that told us Canon sensors just aren't that fast in the past, so why not go all out insane and have the 83 MP sensor run at 20 FPS :ROFLMAO:
 
  • Like
Reactions: ahsanford

tpatana

EOS R
Nov 1, 2012
1,446
192
The Japanese writing system, being a blend of several different systems, is probably the hardest one in the world. Anyone who can read it while remembering to breathe must be a genius.
10x easier than Chinese.

Funnily enough, I think Korean is the easiest alphabet in the world.
 

tpatana

EOS R
Nov 1, 2012
1,446
192
Translated incorrectly due to lack of sleep, lack of coffee, lack of other substances and other excuses. Nothing to see here. It says 45Mpix full size sensor.


Ok, devil's advocate about the "what surprise is left", based on that tweet.

It actually says "45 Mpix file size sensor".
フル file
サイズ size
センサー sensor


Why file size? why not 45 mpix sensor.

You know many movie projectors do fake 4k by moving the sensor, while the actual sensor is 1080p then project it 4 times to create actual 4k image (most do only 2 spots though, so they have half the real 4k pixels)

Maybe the actual sensor is 22.5Mpix, and they do 2 positions fast enough to create 45Mpix for 8k shooting. Then they could also do no-crop 4k easily just without moving the sensor.

Problem would be still shooting, especially when shooting fast there's no way the sensor can move fast enough to not create problems, but the 8k/30 would be easy.

So I'm pretty sure that's not correct guess, but interesting idea based on that choice of words on that tweet. 22.5Mpix R5 to replace 5D4 (and compete against Nikon/Sony) would be disaster, so I'm 99% sure the 45Mpix (~45...48 somewhere there) is the actual size.
 
Last edited:

Aussie shooter

www.facebook.com/BrettGuyPhotography/
Dec 6, 2016
812
987
Ok, devil's advocate about the "what surprise is left", based on that tweet.

It actually says "45 Mpix file size sensor".
フル file
サイズ size
センサー sensor


Why file size? why not 45 mpix sensor.

You know many movie projectors do fake 4k by moving the sensor, while the actual sensor is 1080p then project it 4 times to create actual 4k image (most do only 2 spots though, so they have half the real 4k pixels)

Maybe the actual sensor is 22.5Mpix, and they do 2 positions fast enough to create 45Mpix for 8k shooting. Then they could also do no-crop 4k easily just without moving the sensor.

Problem would be still shooting, especially when shooting fast there's no way the sensor can move fast enough to not create problems, but the 8k/30 would be easy.

So I'm pretty sure that's not correct guess, but interesting idea based on that choice of words on that tweet. 22.5Mpix R5 to replace 5D4 (and compete against Nikon/Sony) would be disaster, so I'm 99% sure the 45Mpix (~45...48 somewhere there) is the actual size.
Likely it is just an idiomatic part of the Japanese language.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Chris.Chapterten

Aussie shooter

www.facebook.com/BrettGuyPhotography/
Dec 6, 2016
812
987
Ok, scrap that all. Should have slept more, it says full size sensor :p File is ファイル
Haha. I understand. I considered trying to learn Japanese and the characters totally threw me. Chose Spanish instead
 

AlanF

Stay alert, control the camera, save photos
Aug 16, 2012
6,843
5,892
The translation according to Google is:
Titles currently registered on overseas news sites. "Sample image of Leica's high resolution model "M10-R"" "45 million pixel full size sensor mirrorless camera "EOS R5" compatible with 8KDCI cinematic video capable of capturing 35.4 million pixel still images"
 

tpatana

EOS R
Nov 1, 2012
1,446
192
The translation according to Google is:
Titles currently registered on overseas news sites. "Sample image of Leica's high resolution model "M10-R"" "45 million pixel full size sensor mirrorless camera "EOS R5" compatible with 8KDCI cinematic video capable of capturing 35.4 million pixel still images"
Now I'm reading it after some coffee, I think it does say 35.4 still and 45 movie. (not taking any responsibility for my translation)

現時点で海外のニュースサイトに登録されているタイトル = registered at foreign news site

「ライカの高解像度モデル『M10-R』のサンプル画像」= Sample image of high resolution leica M10-R

「3540万画素の静止画をチャプチャーできる = capable of capturing 35.4Mpix still images

8KDCIシネマティック動画に対応した4500万画素フルサイズセンサーミラーレスカメラ『EOS R5』 = to respond for 8kDCI cinematic moving picture, 45MPix full size sensor mirrorless camera - eos R5


That does leave me with some questions, like why it says 35.4 for stills? I think we'll know tomorrow more.
 

HenryL

EOS R5
Apr 1, 2020
127
222
That does leave me with some questions, like why it says 35.4 for stills? I think we'll know tomorrow more.
it’s a 35mp for still frames extracted from video. The video frame width is 8192 same as stills, but it’s not as tall.