ReImagine: Canon EOS R5 and Canon EOS R6 live stream announced

[SteveC]

Canon seemingly likes to start their new systems of with an initial weird phase and get serious after a while. At least that's the impression I get looking back at the M, M2 and M3 to how far the EF-M system has come with the M50 and M6 II recently.

It's as if they decide on their naming scheme after the first couple of models come out. Clearly they've decided to parallel their DSLR naming scheme here...but the R and RP were named before that was decided on.

I think there was a hurry (not a rush, but "do something good, but be expeditious please") to get something out; that's not a ding on the R and RP which are plenty capable. They didn't have time to develop something totally new, so they did the best with what they had on hand.

The EOS-M series was originally completely uncharted territory for them, and a change of marketing concept too; they're no longer "dumbing down" full frames for the masses, but starting out to make a line of crop sensor cameras, and I think ultimately we will see some very awesome products in that line. (The M6-II blows away the other cameras I've owned by a huge margin. I took it and a Lumix point-and shoot on a trip; two days in the same place. I brought the Lummox in with me the first day and was constantly struggling to remember how to use it. The second day with the M6-II going back and rehitting the best parts of the place was a positive joy.)

 

[BakaBokeh]

pdate: Canon USA has added information for the live event here. The event will start at 8:00AM ET on July 9, 2020.

Great. That update just moved me from 2pm in the afternoon to 2am.

 

[Cryhavoc]

Canon is slow like it's 1975. And now Sony announces specs for the next product that makes R5 look so pale... OMG. Does Canon even care anymore?

Just stop. 9million dot evf is not even necessary and it will be a battery sucker

 

[koenkooi]

Just stop. 9million dot evf is not even necessary and it will be a battery sucker

I wouldn't mind having a 3 megapixel EVF (I wish they would stop speaking in dots, but hey, it's a 3x bigger number), but it won't be a dealbreaker.

 

[usern4cr]

I wouldn't mind having a 3 megapixel EVF (I wish they would stop speaking in dots, but hey, it's a 3x bigger number), but it won't be a dealbreaker.

Well, at least measuring the EVF in (single color) "dots" is (surprisingly) accurate. Have you ever wondered about why they call a sensor 20MPixels when there's only 20M (single color) "dots" being sensed? 20MDots would have been more accurate.

Remember 35mm format? At least it was 36mm on the longest side. So when somebody came up with the term 1" sensor, was the longest size 1"? Nope, just 0.52" - How do they come up with this stuff?

Now I wonder what those guys really have when they say it's 6" ?

 

[dichterDichter]

Remember 35mm format? At least it was 36mm on the longest side. So when somebody came up with the term 1" sensor, was the longest size 1"? Nope, just 0.52" - How do they come up with this stuff?

Now I wonder what those guys really have when they say it's 6" ?

its intertesting where this comes from. no matter if this is correct, i have the feeling that like its the situation with the ff Sensor, if something is described in mm its the actual size. if its inch, im always checking.

off topic: the last time when i build something with pipes, its the same. historical use so they keep inch for different Pipe systems, meaning totally different things 1" for pipes is about 33mm instead of 25.4mm. inch can really just be something.

 

[SteveC]

its intertesting where this comes from. no matter if this is correct, i have the feeling that like its the situation with the ff Sensor, if something is described in mm its the actual size. if its inch, im always checking.

off topic: the last time when i build something with pipes, its the same. historical use so they keep inch for different Pipe systems, meaning totally different things 1" for pipes is about 33mm instead of 25.4mm. inch can really just be something.

The inch-based sensor sizes apparently come from the diameter of the vacuum tube that sensors used to be in, in TV cameras. So that number is considerably bigger than the actual sensor size. what's worse is sometimes the number is actually the reciprocal of the size you'd get, by doing it this arcane way, which makes it two removes from anything real.

 

[stevelee]

> July 9th at 8AM EST
Is it really Eastern STANDARD Time?
Or, EDT?

If it is 1pm BST, that should be 1200 UTC, and therefore 8am EDT, right? Maybe they mean Eastern Summer Time, terminology not used this side of the pond.

 

[blackcoffee17]

The inch-based sensor sizes apparently come from the diameter of the vacuum tube that sensors used to be in, in TV cameras. So that number is considerably bigger than the actual sensor size. what's worse is sometimes the number is actually the reciprocal of the size you'd get, by doing it this arcane way, which makes it two removes from anything real.

They should have ditched that system ages ago and just use Width x Height in mm.

 

[stevelee]

I can do better than that. As long as it's not around the time of the change forward or back, the time in Berlin is eight hours ahead of me. (We don't change at the same time as Europe, so it could be 7 or 9 hours around then.)

I was traveling in Italy in October, and then I took a cruise to Greek islands and such as well as ports back in Italy. We changed time zones back and forth several times between CEST and EEST. While we were at sea, summer time ended, so we were shifting between regular CST and EST. Fortunately, the nightly newsletter delivered to our cabin told us what time the ship would use the next day, normally the time used in the port we were heading to. I set my phone to manual date and time setting to deal with that. Just before we flew home, the US changed back to standard time. I think I just left my G5X II set to CEST the whole trip.

 

[hoodlum]

I apologize if this was already posted.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1279160574341857280

 

[Aussie shooter]

It's as if they decide on their naming scheme after the first couple of models come out. Clearly they've decided to parallel their DSLR naming scheme here...but the R and RP were named before that was decided on.

I think there was a hurry (not a rush, but "do something good, but be expeditious please") to get something out; that's not a ding on the R and RP which are plenty capable. They didn't have time to develop something totally new, so they did the best with what they had on hand.

The EOS-M series was originally completely uncharted territory for them, and a change of marketing concept too; they're no longer "dumbing down" full frames for the masses, but starting out to make a line of crop sensor cameras, and I think ultimately we will see some very awesome products in that line. (The M6-II blows away the other cameras I've owned by a huge margin. I took it and a Lumix point-and shoot on a trip; two days in the same place. I brought the Lummox in with me the first day and was constantly struggling to remember how to use it. The second day with the M6-II going back and rehitting the best parts of the place was a positive joy.)

I am not so sure about that. IF they had decided before any RF mount cameras were released that there would be no Aps-c RF bodies then they would have known that they will need a series of lower end 'entry level" bodies as well as the more capable bodies. In the EF lineup the 6d was and 'entry level FF' but in reality the cheaper Aps-c bodies were the 'entry level' DSLR bodies. And the reality is, to be able to provide a true entry level FF RF body then what will be needed is parts from older bodies that get stuck together to produce a cheap unit with minimal R&D costs They may stick with the RP moniker and just tack on the usual Mk2 Mk3 etc.

 

[Quarkcharmed]

So like the R, it has a curtain over the sensor when the lens is off mount?

I apologize if this was already posted.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1279160574341857280

 

[vjlex]

I apologize if this was already posted.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1279160574341857280

Very glad to see the sensor is protected when the camera is off, just like the R. I also noticed the Bluetooth and Wifi icon in the top screen.

 

[Hagar]

Just a bunch of little kids here and it isn't even Christmas! And what does the better half get?

Jack

Her own R5! We have two on pre-order. Going to trade in two 5Dm3’s and two 7Dm2’s toward them. Also 600mm original, a 70-200m2, and a 28-70m2 towards a 600mm series 3.

 

[Quarkcharmed]

Very glad to see the sensor is protected when the camera is off, just like the R. I also noticed the Bluetooth and Wifi icon in the top screen.

Yeah. But no GPS. Here goes the cripple hammer.

 

[vjlex]

Yeah. But no GPS. Here goes the cripple hammer.

You're right. I went to look at the old 5D4 product photos and the GPS icon does appear on the top screen. I really hope the R5 has GPS built-in.

 

[Jack Douglas]

Anyone notice the appearance of the joystick - could it be ...

Jack

 

[vjlex]

Anyone notice the appearance of the joystick - could it be ...

Jack

It looks like the 5D4 joystick to me, and unfortunately not like the 1DX3. But that's what I expected.

 

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