Reports of EOS 7D Reaching End of Life [CR2]

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#21
frumrk said:
Interesting... don't they normally have an upgraded version in place well before the EOL for a particular product is announced? Just an observation.. could this mean that there will be no direct replacement for the 7D?
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Yeah surprising. Maybe a surprise announcement mid-June during World Cup (for more general exposure than a camera show gives these days?) for a July 1st in stores (7D2) (in time for many summer vacations and sports and all fall sports?)???
 
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#22
I seem to recall people were predicting it would appear at the Winter Olympics in various pre-production forms, but nothing came of it. I will believe this one when someone says they have seen it. Meanwhile, I'm saving for it and the Sigma 300-600 sport.
 
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#23
Not surprising..... Sales of the 7D have plummeted since the 70D came out and my guess is that they have jot made new ones for a while and internal stock is low. With the delays in the 7D2, there might even be a gap between when they run out of 7Ds and the mark 2 version is released...... That would certainly get the comments flowing from forum members....
 
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#25
IF this rumor is true, the 7DII unfortunately is too late for my next trip to Norway (starting in 10 days ;-) ). Got my battered 7D Mk I and 5D3 already packed.

Btw my 4 yrs old 7D really doesn't show any signs of coming to its life's end. It survived a really hard crash on a rock and still is going rrrrr... My wife's Nikon 300D, same age, same hard use in rugged environment, died past year. First it started to throw off pieces, then its mirror got stuck @ only 90.000 shutter actuations. Cost of repair would exceed the camera's value by far. I wasn't surprised to read at DPR that Nikon had to save about 18 Mio US-$ for D600 warranty repair/replacements. Looks really like Nikon has a serious quality issue. Sad to say as an old Nikon F-series fan - still love to use my FM-2, one of the best SLRs Nikon ever made.
 
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justaCanonuser said:
Sigma 300-600? Did I miss something? I only know the 300-800 Sigmonster (+ Sigma's even more monstrous 200-500/2.8).
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http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=21072.0

"It’s also possible that Sigma will announce something like a 300mm-600mm supertelephoto zoom lens. Although that may not come until 2015. There was no mention of whether or not the lens would have a constant aperture, or even what the aperture would be."
 
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#32
GMCPhotographics said:
The 7D is so old that it's been end of life in the market place for a long time. It's been said before, it's not the camera which is dated, but the sensor inside it. It's seriously behind in iso ability and clarity at 100%. Sure the AF could do with a tweek, but I found the 7D's array to be very good.
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Ummm...it is not just the sensor, it as all the electronic circuitry in the camera that is dated.
 
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#34
I bought my 7D new back in late 2011 and I love this camera. After the v2.0 firmware, it is fast, has a great buffer size and supports very fast speeds of CompactFlash cards.

Every camera has limitations, no matter what body it is. Some more or less than others, but they still exist. But here is why I love my 7D and even IF they release a 7D replacement soon, I will keep my current set-up for quite a while.

1) The image quality of the 7D is impressive, even at high ISO in decent light. If you are one who shoots constantly in low light a crop sensor is not for you anyway, so this doesn't apply to you anyway. I have hundreds of good light, high ISO (ISO-1600-3200) shots that are detailed and perfect for print, even without any kind of noise reduction done. Guys, they look great in NORMAL print sizes (even up to 11 x 14) Look if you are a "pro" and you make billboards for advertising, keep your comments to yourself. You wouldn't own a 7D or any crop body anyway, good grief. This IS NOT directed to you anyway.

2) Even though the 70D and Nikon's latest crop body, the D7100 are impressive cameras, they cannot keep up with the OVERALL speed of the 7D, either in fps OR in clearing out the buffer quickly. That alone can make or break the nest shot.

3) The AF system on the 7D is fantastic. Even when I am using my Tamron 1.4x teleconverter, the 7D still locks on 98% even in dim light. The 7D WILL AF at f8, quite a feat in it's self, even if it's not an official spec from Canon.

4) The body and menu is still 100% modern and is build like a tank. I plan on using my 7D for years to come.

5) The last and most important. IF Canon makes a 7D replacement, I DOUBT the camera will produce an Image that is (guessing of course) $1800.00~$2200.00 BETTER than my 7D.

Until such time that the cost to fix my 7D outweighs buying another camera body, I won't switch IF a "7D2" comes out.

Just my 2 cents, take it as that.

D
 
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#35
Tugela said:
GMCPhotographics said:
The 7D is so old that it's been end of life in the market place for a long time. It's been said before, it's not the camera which is dated, but the sensor inside it. It's seriously behind in iso ability and clarity at 100%. Sure the AF could do with a tweek, but I found the 7D's array to be very good.
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Ummm...it is not just the sensor, it as all the electronic circuitry in the camera that is dated.
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The 7D actually has a better processor than the 5II of the same generation. The 7D to get it's data through put of 8fps and 18mp used a dual Digic 4 design. While the 5DIII and 1DX use Digic 5 and Dual Digic 5 designs, the through put of the Dual Digic 4 and a single Digic 5 are remarkably similar.
Other than AF systems, a 19 point to 61 point AF system, the 7D is remarkably modern except for it's sensor. If fact much of the 5DIII's development was carried over or progressed from the ground work laid in the 7D development. The 7D really was a 1D4 lite....so one wonders if Canon has the will to put out a 7DII / 1D-X lite?
 
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#36
GMCPhotographics said:
Tugela said:
GMCPhotographics said:
The 7D is so old that it's been end of life in the market place for a long time. It's been said before, it's not the camera which is dated, but the sensor inside it. It's seriously behind in iso ability and clarity at 100%. Sure the AF could do with a tweek, but I found the 7D's array to be very good.
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Ummm...it is not just the sensor, it as all the electronic circuitry in the camera that is dated.
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The 7D actually has a better processor than the 5II of the same generation. The 7D to get it's data through put of 8fps and 18mp used a dual Digic 4 design. While the 5DIII and 1DX use Digic 5 and Dual Digic 5 designs, the through put of the Dual Digic 4 and a single Digic 5 are remarkably similar.
Other than AF systems, a 19 point to 61 point AF system, the 7D is remarkably modern except for it's sensor. If fact much of the 5DIII's development was carried over or progressed from the ground work laid in the 7D development. The 7D really was a 1D4 lite....so one wonders if Canon has the will to put out a 7DII / 1D-X lite?
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A lot of people pick on its age, but if a 7D2 was offered that was identical spec-wise to the 7D other than offering a new best-in-class APS-C sensor, I think it would still sell like hot cakes.

But tack on what we think they will tack on beyond the sensor (a 5D3/1DX-like AF grid, dual-pixel, video improvements, etc.) and we can start talking about such a beast eclipsing $2k and still selling like crazy.

- A
 
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#37
I remember reading there will be no 7D mk2 or a camera by that name. the newer body will be digi 6 which is far ahead of the game and also, the 70d was suppose to be the new 7D new version, so if there is a replacement maybe its out already and if there is a camera coming out I dont think it will have anything to do with a 7 at all. just my 2cents, only time will tell what it really going to be.
 
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#39
AshtonNekolah said:
I remember reading there will be no 7D mk2 or a camera by that name. the newer body will be digi 6 which is far ahead of the game and also, the 70d was suppose to be the new 7D new version, so if there is a replacement maybe its out already and if there is a camera coming out I dont think it will have anything to do with a 7 at all. just my 2cents, only time will tell what it really going to be.
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The 70D shares a lot of 7D specs, which really underlines my earlier point about the 7D being a very advanced camera when it was launched. I get the impression with the 70D, it was Canon cutting into the second hand sales of the 7D. The 7D is hardly selling anymore on the new market but is selling very well on the used market. Canon only recieve income with the same of new cameras, not used ones. So the way to fix this is release a nearly identical camera with a nearly identical spec, but built to a cheaper cost base and sell it for the same price as a used 7D....and this is exactly what the 70D seems to have done. The same it true of the 6D and 5DII.
Sure there are few minor upgrades and a few dumbed down specs, but generally this seems to have happened.

The Problem Canon seems to have with the 1DX and 7DII, is that the 1DX is still selling well and the second Canon release a 7DII, those sales will tail off pretty fast. It's just not possible to make a 7DII without it being a 1.6x version of the 1DX. The 5DIII is already a full frame 1DX lite....so a 7DII must therefore be a cropped sensor 1DX lite also. Ergo, simular frame rate, AF array and 18mp as the 1DX.
 
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#40
GMCPhotographics said:
AshtonNekolah said:
I remember reading there will be no 7D mk2 or a camera by that name. the newer body will be digi 6 which is far ahead of the game and also, the 70d was suppose to be the new 7D new version, so if there is a replacement maybe its out already and if there is a camera coming out I dont think it will have anything to do with a 7 at all. just my 2cents, only time will tell what it really going to be.
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The 70D shares a lot of 7D specs, which really underlines my earlier point about the 7D being a very advanced camera when it was launched. I get the impression with the 70D, it was Canon cutting into the second hand sales of the 7D. The 7D is hardly selling anymore on the new market but is selling very well on the used market. Canon only recieve income with the same of new cameras, not used ones. So the way to fix this is release a nearly identical camera with a nearly identical spec, but built to a cheaper cost base and sell it for the same price as a used 7D....and this is exactly what the 70D seems to have done. The same it true of the 6D and 5DII.
Sure there are few minor upgrades and a few dumbed down specs, but generally this seems to have happened.

The Problem Canon seems to have with the 1DX and 7DII, is that the 1DX is still selling well and the second Canon release a 7DII, those sales will tail off pretty fast. It's just not possible to make a 7DII without it being a 1.6x version of the 1DX. The 5DIII is already a full frame 1DX lite....so a 7DII must therefore be a cropped sensor 1DX lite also. Ergo, simular frame rate, AF array and 18mp as the 1DX.
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cant really argue with any of that logic but often canon don't act logically they WILL cripple the 7D2 enough that it doesnt it 1Dx sales in a big way
 
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