The Canon EOS-1D X Mark II Specifications?

[Diltiazem]

That d****d thing on top of the pentaprism makes the camera look terribly ugly. Since the EOS-1 (analog) I've always liked the design of Canons top-of-the line cameras, a not so unimportant factor for creative people like photographers.

I really can't believe it, there must be a more clever and estethic way to put a GPS-antenna into a body that large. Are these fake images???

I use a 5D mk III myself, if they put that thing on top of the 5D mk IV too, I promise you I won't upgrade.

Put a lens on (bigger is better), and it would look fabulous.

 

[Diltiazem]

Waiting for some sample images. Tension. Tension.

For me it will be the most interesting part. I'm not so fussed about the maximum ISO available (I think I have only shot at 12800 at most on my 5DMkIII), but more so the ISO performance up to 12800. If that is anywhere near twice as good as the previous model I would be impressed (assuming that it will be a similar jump for the 5DMkIV also).

I am expecting less than a stop improvement in high ISO noise.

 

[Hill Benson]

Waiting for some sample images. Tension. Tension.

For me it will be the most interesting part. I'm not so fussed about the maximum ISO available (I think I have only shot at 12800 at most on my 5DMkIII), but more so the ISO performance up to 12800. If that is anywhere near twice as good as the previous model I would be impressed (assuming that it will be a similar jump for the 5DMkIV also).

I am expecting less than a stop improvement in high ISO noise.

I think that is a more realistic expectation the more I think about it.

 

[mclaren777]

The ISO invariance could easily double in performance.

 

[Jack Douglas]

I don't have the experience yet to relate to what relative improvement the 1DX II might offer. If I can possibly help it, I don't shoot the 6D at higher than ISO 1250. If I didn't crop about 2/3 of the frame away on a typical bird photo, I'd go higher, but that's the point where my level of fussiness limits me (I like sharp photos). At the moment I only use DPP but I use it to it's full capability. Do any of you shoot the 6D and 1Dx so that you have a feeling for how the two compare and what I might realistically expect noise-wise from a 1DX II with the same MPs as the 6D.

I know I'd have a fair number more shots if I was able to use ISO 2000 or 2500 based on my history over the last couple years.

Jack

 

[tpatana]

I'll make prediction:

When it's out, two of the most talked test-photos for 1DX2 will be:

-Shot with lens cap on to see if the metering changes when you shine a flashlight at the top LCD

-Severely underexposed shot with +5 stop push on post


Neither one of those will have any effect on real life performance, but people seem to like to talk about those test shots.

 

[privatebydesign]

I don't have the experience yet to relate to what relative improvement the 1DX II might offer. If I can possibly help it, I don't shoot the 6D at higher than ISO 1250. If I didn't crop about 2/3 of the frame away on a typical bird photo, I'd go higher, but that's the point where my level of fussiness limits me (I like sharp photos). At the moment I only use DPP but I use it to it's full capability. Do any of you shoot the 6D and 1Dx so that you have a feeling for how the two compare and what I might realistically expect noise-wise from a 1DX II with the same MPs as the 6D.

I know I'd have a fair number more shots if I was able to use ISO 2000 or 2500 based on my history over the last couple years.

Jack

Jack your cropping is killing you, I have seen very good images out of the 1DX at 10,000 iso, but they were uncropped.

If you are going to keep cropping so hard why not download some 5DS files to play with, they are surprisingly good and the AF is very good too.

 

[Jack Douglas]

I don't have the experience yet to relate to what relative improvement the 1DX II might offer. If I can possibly help it, I don't shoot the 6D at higher than ISO 1250. If I didn't crop about 2/3 of the frame away on a typical bird photo, I'd go higher, but that's the point where my level of fussiness limits me (I like sharp photos). At the moment I only use DPP but I use it to it's full capability. Do any of you shoot the 6D and 1Dx so that you have a feeling for how the two compare and what I might realistically expect noise-wise from a 1DX II with the same MPs as the 6D.

I know I'd have a fair number more shots if I was able to use ISO 2000 or 2500 based on my history over the last couple years.

Jack

Jack your cropping is killing you, I have seen very good images out of the 1DX at 10,000 iso, but they were uncropped.

If you are going to keep cropping so hard why not download some 5DS files to play with, they are surprisingly good and the AF is very good too.

Of course (My previous 1D II was fine filling the frame at 8MP), but I'm now addicted to a 1D level after using the 1D IV a lot, especially FPS. Can't afford both so it'll be 1DX II. A 600 F4 for more reach (ain't goin to happen, besides it's way too heavy for me).

Jack

 

[KeithBreazeal]

I don't have the experience yet to relate to what relative improvement the 1DX II might offer. If I can possibly help it, I don't shoot the 6D at higher than ISO 1250. If I didn't crop about 2/3 of the frame away on a typical bird photo, I'd go higher, but that's the point where my level of fussiness limits me (I like sharp photos). At the moment I only use DPP but I use it to it's full capability. Do any of you shoot the 6D and 1Dx so that you have a feeling for how the two compare and what I might realistically expect noise-wise from a 1DX II with the same MPs as the 6D.

I know I'd have a fair number more shots if I was able to use ISO 2000 or 2500 based on my history over the last couple years.

Jack

Jack your cropping is killing you, I have seen very good images out of the 1DX at 10,000 iso, but they were uncropped.

If you are going to keep cropping so hard why not download some 5DS files to play with, they are surprisingly good and the AF is very good too.

Here's sample of the 5DS crop capability. And this is a pan shot of 300 mph air racing.

Thom Richard Hot Stuff screen shot 5172 web © Keith Breazeal by Keith Breazeal, on Flickr

 

[Ryananthony]

That d****d thing on top of the pentaprism makes the camera look terribly ugly. Since the EOS-1 (analog) I've always liked the design of Canons top-of-the line cameras, a not so unimportant factor for creative people like photographers.

I really can't believe it, there must be a more clever and estethic way to put a GPS-antenna into a body that large. Are these fake images???

I use a 5D mk III myself, if they put that thing on top of the 5D mk IV too, I promise you I won't upgrade.

That honestly made me laugh. Thank you. If that's what holds you back from a capable camera, feel free to not purchase one.
I don't get what the fuss is about.

 

[tpatana]

That d****d thing on top of the pentaprism makes the camera look terribly ugly. Since the EOS-1 (analog) I've always liked the design of Canons top-of-the line cameras, a not so unimportant factor for creative people like photographers.

I really can't believe it, there must be a more clever and estethic way to put a GPS-antenna into a body that large. Are these fake images???

I use a 5D mk III myself, if they put that thing on top of the 5D mk IV too, I promise you I won't upgrade.

That honestly made me laugh. Thank you. If that's what holds you back from a capable camera, feel free to not purchase one.
I don't get what the fuss is about.

Well, it all depends on why you'd buy the camera. If you buy it to look cool and pick up chicks, it must look cool. If you buy it to take pictures, you don't give rat's ass about the looks.

So I guess this thread also shows people from different goals why they need camera.

 

[Jack Douglas]

I don't have the experience yet to relate to what relative improvement the 1DX II might offer. If I can possibly help it, I don't shoot the 6D at higher than ISO 1250. If I didn't crop about 2/3 of the frame away on a typical bird photo, I'd go higher, but that's the point where my level of fussiness limits me (I like sharp photos). At the moment I only use DPP but I use it to it's full capability. Do any of you shoot the 6D and 1Dx so that you have a feeling for how the two compare and what I might realistically expect noise-wise from a 1DX II with the same MPs as the 6D.

I know I'd have a fair number more shots if I was able to use ISO 2000 or 2500 based on my history over the last couple years.

Jack

Jack your cropping is killing you, I have seen very good images out of the 1DX at 10,000 iso, but they were uncropped.

If you are going to keep cropping so hard why not download some 5DS files to play with, they are surprisingly good and the AF is very good too.

Here's sample of the 5DS crop capability. And this is a pan shot of 300 mph air racing.

Thom Richard Hot Stuff screen shot 5172 web © Keith Breazeal by Keith Breazeal, on Flickr

I have no doubt about the 5DS in this regard but it's not rich in 1D features, obviously. If I don't like my 6D FPS would I be thrilled with the 5DS, not sure. Relative to cropping I surely would love it! Higher ISO, not sure.

Jack

 

[tpatana]

I have no doubt about the 5DS in this regard but it's not rich in 1D features, obviously. If I don't like my 6D FPS would I be thrilled with the 5DS, not sure. Relative to cropping I surely would love it! Higher ISO, not sure.

Last summer I was at this sports competition, carrying 1DX and 5D3. Mostly shooting with 1DX, and one point when I shot the action for the first time with the 5D3, I wondered why it was slow, that maybe accidentally it was on the medium-High-speed mode (3fps I think?) instead of the high-speed 6fps. But no, it was on 6fps.

After 12fps on 1DX, the 5D3 felt broken.

 

[Jack Douglas]

I have no doubt about the 5DS in this regard but it's not rich in 1D features, obviously. If I don't like my 6D FPS would I be thrilled with the 5DS, not sure. Relative to cropping I surely would love it! Higher ISO, not sure.

Last summer I was at this sports competition, carrying 1DX and 5D3. Mostly shooting with 1DX, and one point when I shot the action for the first time with the 5D3, I wondered why it was slow, that maybe accidentally it was on the medium-High-speed mode (3fps I think?) instead of the high-speed 6fps. But no, it was on 6fps.

After 12fps on 1DX, the 5D3 felt broken.

Exactly what happened to me after selling the 1D IV and being pressed back into 6D use. When I didn't have to crop much it was 1D IV all the way. Previously I had stated I liked the smaller camera but I was definitely getting hooked on the larger 1D IV grip too. And now we're talking 14 FPS. I'm not the only one who was hoping 22 or 24 MP, that would have done it for me but I'll take what I can get now because the alternate cameras are not likely to satisfy other than maybe the 5D IV, more waiting, no - I'm reaching the end of my patience.

Jack

 

[kirispupis]

I'm coming from a 5D3 + 7D2 right now, so the new 1Dx2 definitely looks to be a nice upgrade. I'll probably replace the 5D3 in the short run since the 7D2 is still useful somewhat for the crop factor, but in the longer run I'll likely pair it with a 5DsR or perhaps its successor.

The one tidbit I am a bit confused about though is that the first list of specs mentioned that every AF point would work in F8. I no longer see that. Any news whether this is still a rumor?

 

[tpatana]

If you buy it to look cool and pick up chicks, it must look cool.

A 1DX with some rocket launcher on it? Some of you guys have really odd ideas how to impress a lady. That's not the way someone would "pick me up". lol. Maybe I'm just different. Some like to play macho and think that's it... but I'm (kind of) lesbian anyway so maybe I don't understand it. BACK TO TOPIC! ;D

Btw. I wouldn't ever buy a 1DX, I'm just interested and curious what's next... I absolutely love photography and it is one of the most important things in my life!

So far only one time I've gotten "is that a lens or are you just happy to see me?" while carrying 70-200, but she's special.

Although I think it works better the other way. Cute lady carrying nice body, it takes at least 10 years off.

 

[Eldar]

I don't have the experience yet to relate to what relative improvement the 1DX II might offer. If I can possibly help it, I don't shoot the 6D at higher than ISO 1250. If I didn't crop about 2/3 of the frame away on a typical bird photo, I'd go higher, but that's the point where my level of fussiness limits me (I like sharp photos). At the moment I only use DPP but I use it to it's full capability. Do any of you shoot the 6D and 1Dx so that you have a feeling for how the two compare and what I might realistically expect noise-wise from a 1DX II with the same MPs as the 6D.

I know I'd have a fair number more shots if I was able to use ISO 2000 or 2500 based on my history over the last couple years.

Jack

Jack your cropping is killing you, I have seen very good images out of the 1DX at 10,000 iso, but they were uncropped.

If you are going to keep cropping so hard why not download some 5DS files to play with, they are surprisingly good and the AF is very good too.

Of course (My previous 1D II was fine filling the frame at 8MP), but I'm now addicted to a 1D level after using the 1D IV a lot, especially FPS. Can't afford both so it'll be 1DX II. A 600 F4 for more reach (ain't goin to happen, besides it's way too heavy for me).

Jack

Jack, having seen quite a few of your images, I believe it is an easy conclusion that (on your bird shots) you need a fast fps body and a good tele lens. You also need good high ISO performance. I do believe you should be able to push a bit further than what you limit yourself to now. I am clearly not a noise reduction wizard (there are quite a few others on CR), but simple adjustments in Lightroom should give you good results.

To exemplify, since you do lots of birds, this is an ISO 8.000 shot with the 1DX, cropped about 30%, shot with the 600 f4L IS II. It took less than 5 minutes of editing to get to this result. If rumours are correct, we should get another stop with the 1DX II, which means you can get this result at ISO 16.000.

For focal length, it might be that you should consider the 500 f4L IS II. It is only about 800g heavier than your 300 f2.8L IS II and both cheaper, smaller and lighter than the 600. With the 1DX II, you will apparently get (close to) full AF functionality with your 2xIII extender. Cropping is then much less of an issue.

Going from the 1DIV to a 1DX II will increase your need for cropping and, the number of pixels on your final image will be pretty much same same. Your current 16 MP at 1.3x crop factor is pretty close to 20,2MP at FF. The cheap(er) way out could be to add a 7DII. Then you get your 20MP at 1.6x crop factor and you get 10 fps, but you may still be unhappy with the ISO performance.

 

[abbebus]

That d****d thing on top of the pentaprism makes the camera look terribly ugly. Since the EOS-1 (analog) I've always liked the design of Canons top-of-the line cameras, a not so unimportant factor for creative people like photographers.

I really can't believe it, there must be a more clever and estethic way to put a GPS-antenna into a body that large. Are these fake images???

I use a 5D mk III myself, if they put that thing on top of the 5D mk IV too, I promise you I won't upgrade.

That honestly made me laugh. Thank you. If that's what holds you back from a capable camera, feel free to not purchase one.
I don't get what the fuss is about.

Well, it all depends on why you'd buy the camera. If you buy it to look cool and pick up chicks, it must look cool. If you buy it to take pictures, you don't give rat's ass about the looks.

So I guess this thread also shows people from different goals why they need camera.

Haha maybe I exaggerated a bit there. Of course I buy my camera for taking photos, I have yet to see a camera that impress on chicks

However, design is important to me when buying a camera, as well as when I'm buying a car, computer, phone... you name it. I'm pretty sure you too are familiar with thinking like that. I'd rather buy a good looking camera then an ugly one.

 

[Jack Douglas]

Thanks Eldar,

If I hadn't bought the 300 and if I'd known good F8 focusing was coming I probably would have considered the 500. However, I love the ease with which I get around with the 300 X2 and really my main complaint is that with the 1D IV I found ISO 800 a little worse than 1250 with the 6D. I've only done noise reduction in DPP so that may factor into this but if the 1DX II would have me shooting at ISO 2500 without much noise I think that would do the trick.

If my plan was to have two new bodies probably the 7D II would have been a choice but it would not replace the 6D with the 11-24 so I think 1DX II is going to be my single camera (with my wife using the 6D). There are some 1D features I like such as exposure linked to spot focus and that lit AF point that Neuro says we won't get in a 1DX II.

Jack

 

[Diltiazem]

The one tidbit I am a bit confused about though is that the first list of specs mentioned that every AF point would work in F8. I no longer see that. Any news whether this is still a rumor?

It is still there in Digicame-info. Not sure why CR dropped it.