The Next EOS M Camera(s) [CR1]

[unfocused]

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I, for one, fully comprehend manufacturer/retailer relationships.

However, I'll never believe Canon does not have some hand in this particular move. To think B&H suddenly got a wild hair up their tookus one day and fire-saled the M and then their competition followed the piper like mice is far too improbable...

Oh, I absolutely agree. I strongly suspect that EOS-M sales have been disappointing and it's highly likely that Canon offered it's dealers some special pricing if they purchased large quantities of the camera. It's entirely possible that B&H's sales rep cut them a special deal if they took a bunch of EOS-Ms off his or her hands. Given that Adorama and Amazon ran out of stock quickly after price-matching B&H makes me think they weren't planning on the fire sale at B&H.

Anyway, my point – perhaps not make clearly – was that too many people equate a retailer's actions with the actions of Canon and vice versa. And, my other point, was that people too often assume that sales by individual retailers are a reliable predictor of new camera introductions when there are dozens of other equally plausible explanations.

 

[TheBadger]

Mirrorless, advanced AF, fullframe with optical viewfinder... Those are melody to my ears!! 8) 8)

 

[gngan]

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I, for one, fully comprehend manufacturer/retailer relationships.

However, I'll never believe Canon does not have some hand in this particular move. To think B&H suddenly got a wild hair up their tookus one day and fire-saled the M and then their competition followed the piper like mice is far too improbable...

Oh, I absolutely agree. I strongly suspect that EOS-M sales have been disappointing and it's highly likely that Canon offered it's dealers some special pricing if they purchased large quantities of the camera. It's entirely possible that B&H's sales rep cut them a special deal if they took a bunch of EOS-Ms off his or her hands. Given that Adorama and Amazon ran out of stock quickly after price-matching B&H makes me think they weren't planning on the fire sale at B&H.

Anyway, my point – perhaps not make clearly – was that too many people equate a retailer's actions with the actions of Canon and vice versa. And, my other point, was that people too often assume that sales by individual retailers are a reliable predictor of new camera introductions when there are dozens of other equally plausible explanations.

It is normal that distributors get discount by buying large quantities of product from companies but that is because how business works. Canon (many other companies) distribute their product to others so they do not need to bare the risk of over stacking their products. I think distributors are very good indicator for new product or life-cycle of a product. There are several explanation to this:
1) Canon maybe wanting to push their product
2) Clearing inventories for new products
3) Too many inventories
4) Annual report? So selling more makes it look good
If you look at Apple then most of the time the shortage of products means it’s ending its life-cycle or discontinue of the product.

 

[privatebydesign]

Mirrorless, advanced AF, fullframe with optical viewfinder... Those are melody to my ears!! 8) 8)

And impossible. Have you actually looked at the mount if an M? It is not possible to fit a larger sensor, the M series will stay APS-C for ever.

 

[JoeDavid]

Of course Canon USA is dumping these cameras. Even BestBuy has it for $299! The thing to worry about in the States is whether or not Canon USA is getting out of the M business. They chose to not introduce the EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM lens in the USA. That was a Canon USA decision (they replied to a post on their forum concerning the lens...).

 

[Zv]

Of course Canon USA is dumping these cameras. Even BestBuy has it for $299! The thing to worry about in the States is whether or not Canon USA is getting out of the M business. They chose to not introduce the EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM lens in the USA. That was a Canon USA decision (they replied to a post on their forum concerning the lens...).

The 11-22mm is available for pre order in Japan. Shame you guys can't get it in the states. That seems like a poor decision by Canon USA. Especially since now more people have the EOS M from this sale.

 

[Loswr]

The 11-22mm is available for pre order in Japan. Shame you guys can't get it in the states. That seems like a poor decision by Canon USA. Especially since now more people have the EOS M from this sale.

I hope that means they decide to launch the lens here!

 

[Ivar]

I strongly suspect that EOS-M sales have been disappointing

As there is no other plausible explanation for such a price cut I agree.

Interesting though how much Canon has learned from this i.e. how much crippled the next M will be.

What concerns the dual pixel system I take it for granted for the next M:
1) new technology is what helps to sell products
2) it is not really such a big difference, still far cry from PDAF so it doesn't add extra competition
3) most probably the technology has even bigger potential in the next iteration so the 70D version of this technology will not last too long

All that said I still don't have much interest in Canon cameras, there are much more interesting alternatives for my preferences. Only sound innovation could change that.

 

[neech7]

Mirrorless, advanced AF, fullframe with optical viewfinder... Those are melody to my ears!! 8) 8)

And impossible. Have you actually looked at the mount if an M? It is not possible to fit a larger sensor, the M series will stay APS-C for ever.

I pointed that out on the forums but were ignored as folks continue to fantasize with no regard for common sense.

 

[Zv]

The 11-22mm is available for pre order in Japan. Shame you guys can't get it in the states. That seems like a poor decision by Canon USA. Especially since now more people have the EOS M from this sale.

I hope that means they decide to launch the lens here!

If you really really want it, I could ship it over. Just pay for lens and the p&p! (terms and conditions apply, limited one time offer)

 

[neech7]

The 11-22mm is available for pre order in Japan. Shame you guys can't get it in the states. That seems like a poor decision by Canon USA. Especially since now more people have the EOS M from this sale.

I hope that means they decide to launch the lens here!

If you really really want it, I could ship it over. Just pay for lens and the p&p! (terms and conditions apply, limited one time offer)

Thanks for your offer. US buyers also have the option of buying online from Canada:

http://www.henrys.com/78480-CANON-EF-M-11-22MM-F4-5-6-IS-STM-LENS.aspx

or

http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraLenses/269981/canon-efm1122mm-f456-stm.aspx

 

[Zv]

The 11-22mm is available for pre order in Japan. Shame you guys can't get it in the states. That seems like a poor decision by Canon USA. Especially since now more people have the EOS M from this sale.

I hope that means they decide to launch the lens here!

If you really really want it, I could ship it over. Just pay for lens and the p&p! (terms and conditions apply, limited one time offer)

Thanks for your offer. US buyers also have the option of buying online from Canada:

http://www.henrys.com/78480-CANON-EF-M-11-22MM-F4-5-6-IS-STM-LENS.aspx

or

http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraLenses/269981/canon-efm1122mm-f456-stm.aspx

Wait .... It's gonna be available in Canada but not the US??

 

[neech7]

The 11-22mm is available for pre order in Japan. Shame you guys can't get it in the states. That seems like a poor decision by Canon USA. Especially since now more people have the EOS M from this sale.

I hope that means they decide to launch the lens here!

If you really really want it, I could ship it over. Just pay for lens and the p&p! (terms and conditions apply, limited one time offer)

Thanks for your offer. US buyers also have the option of buying online from Canada:

http://www.henrys.com/78480-CANON-EF-M-11-22MM-F4-5-6-IS-STM-LENS.aspx

or

http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraLenses/269981/canon-efm1122mm-f456-stm.aspx

Wait .... It's gonna be available in Canada but not the US??

Sure looks that way. Someone mentioned that it may be an indication that Canon USA is bowing out of the mirrorless market. We'll see.

 

[Swphoto]

I'm not sure why anyone thought the retailers were doing this on their own, but the B&H invoice included in the box with my M shows a manufacturer's instant rebate of $300 through today.

 

[justsomedude]

Actually, I just don't understand all of the projecting that takes place on these forums. I state my opinion that I think the current EOS-M is a bad buy...

At a guess, I'd say it was because the word you used was 'silly'...being called silly (and yes, I know that's not what you stated, but that's a natural interpretation) tends to piss people off.

Seriously? I mean... REALLY?

I think a LOT of things are silly purchases. But now you want me to temper an opinion because you're essentially saying the entire photography community is thin-skinned, can't handle dissent, and has poor (or absolutely zero) anger management skills?

That's quite an assessment!!!

"Piss people off"???? Is this the 4th grade? Where am I?????????????

I'm just completely baffled by your post.

 

[Rick]

Would have been nice if this article had appeared at the bottom of the near-breathless article announcing the price reductions. After seeing the price reduction article here on CR, I placed my order with Adorama. This company doesn't do the best job of marking product items as being out of stock. On several recent orders, I have found out about OOS items throiugh a subsequent email.

By now, I am sure most of the following is not news on a 7 page discussion, but I went to the Adorama site today and searched for the EOS M camera and the site is reporting the product as "We are sorry, this item is no longer available". I called Customer Service to determine whether I needed to cancel the order and return the adapter and was told that anyone who had ordered an EOS M before the end of the sale will get one but this item is no longer available for new sales.

Sorry if this post replicates information already posted. Just keep moving on then.

 

[Daniel Flather]

The 11-22mm is available for pre order in Japan. Shame you guys can't get it in the states. That seems like a poor decision by Canon USA. Especially since now more people have the EOS M from this sale.

I hope that means they decide to launch the lens here!

If you really really want it, I could ship it over. Just pay for lens and the p&p! (terms and conditions apply, limited one time offer)

Thanks for your offer. US buyers also have the option of buying online from Canada:

http://www.henrys.com/78480-CANON-EF-M-11-22MM-F4-5-6-IS-STM-LENS.aspx

or

http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraLenses/269981/canon-efm1122mm-f456-stm.aspx

Wait .... It's gonna be available in Canada but not the US??

Sure looks that way. Someone mentioned that it may be an indication that Canon USA is bowing out of the mirrorless market. We'll see.

Also, In Canada the EOS M kit with the 22mm includes the flash, but for $499.

 

[brad-man]

Would have been nice if this article had appeared at the bottom of the near-breathless article announcing the price reductions. After seeing the price reduction article here on CR, I placed my order with Adorama. This company doesn't do the best job of marking product items as being out of stock. On several recent orders, I have found out about OOS items throiugh a subsequent email.

By now, I am sure most of the following is not news on a 7 page discussion, but I went to the Adorama site today and searched for the EOS M camera and the site is reporting the product as "We are sorry, this item is no longer available". I called Customer Service to determine whether I needed to cancel the order and return the adapter and was told that anyone who had ordered an EOS M before the end of the sale will get one but this item is no longer available for new sales.

Sorry if this post replicates information already posted. Just keep moving on then.

At this price, these cameras are moving. A good place to check is http://www.canonpricewatch.com/ . It's not always up to date either, but it will give you a good idea of who has what for how much. Adorama is presently out, but I believe you can order a backordered one from B&H. Today is listed as the last day of this sale, so if you want one you better jump. Mine is being delivered thursday...

 

[JimS]

B&H Photo showing the white EOS M as "Discontinued"

I ordered a White model w/ 22mm lens on July 5 at which time they were out of stock, but expecting delivery later this month. My order status says "On order".

Checking B&H's website for this model:

"This item has been discontinued by the manufacturer and is no longer available." http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/883487-REG/Canon_EOS_M_Digital_Camera_with.html

B&H said that my order should be OK since I had not received an e-mail. B&H still has the black model with 18-55mm in stock and the black model with 22mm backordered until July 18.

 

[Loswr]

Seriously? I mean... REALLY?
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Where am I???????????
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I'm just completely baffled by your post.

You're posting on the Internet, where all people see are the words you write, with no way to convey tone or intent.

It's baffling to me that many people fail to consider the implications of their words, and are surprised when others are offended.