*UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

[takesome1]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

instaimage, if I had to bet money, is a fake. Simply not displaying enough intelligence to deserve attention.
Jack

Appreciate that bud! Hope you're ½ as successful in your life as I am... it's OK that you don't agree with me, don't need to demonstrate that you're an A$$ however...

Depending on how successful you really are that could be a very cruel thing to say. You may have to post some of your bank account statements so we know if you are wishing him well or harm.

 

[privatebydesign]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

This is from 2015:
"In the end, I’m extremely pleased with the images we captured. I honestly don’t think
anyone is going to guess we shot on a DSLR. I’m glad we used the a7s under these circumstances.
I’d only consider selling the a7s if Sony releases a version with In Body Image Stabilization, and it would be nice to be able to control ISO in SLog.

Any professional image maker that thinks an a7s is a DSLR isn't one I'd be very interested in getting advice from.

That could be narrow minded...

Why?

Why would I take camera advice from somebody who doesn't even know what type of camera they are using?

You were saying advice - not "camera" advice - which is not quite the same, is it? And you might get hung up on a sort of "typo" here...

Err, I was going by the them of the thread and the point of the poster. Canon is crap for video 'everybody' is shooting Sony because it is vastly better. Yet the person who supposedly swapped brands doesn't even know what type of camera they are using.

So yes I was referring to camera advice, as was the comment I was referencing.

Again, I might just have been some sort of "typo" by a not flawless person (I know they shouldn't be here).
And still he could be able to compare and come to a personal judgement on the result of the cameras.

As you like.

 

[instaimage]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

The 1DX2 will "process" (same give or takes, but from recent files...) 308 MB/s. This is using 22 MB files at 14 FPS.

to be fair. the 1DX Mark II has 3 DiGiC's .. one dedicated to AF/AE and the other two simply for image processing. the 5D Mark IV will not that. the 1DX Mark II also has a big honking battery and heatsink.

The 5Ds throughput, yes, it's under that .. however consider that the CIPA rating of the 5D Mark III is 950 while the CIPA of the 5Ds was 700.

Food for thought.

The 5D3 has dual digic, the 5DS has dual digic... can't we expect the 5D4 to have dual digic? The 5DS is pushing more data than the 5D4 and is over a year older. I don't understand that. The 5D4, even at 8 FPS or for that matter push it to 10 FPS isn't competing with the 7D2... FF vs. crop, nearly twice the price, etc., there are just too many differences... but as everyone on here is saying, I have no clue what I'm talking about so... I'll just STFU...

 

[instaimage]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

instaimage, if I had to bet money, is a fake. Simply not displaying enough intelligence to deserve attention.
Jack

Appreciate that bud! Hope you're ½ as successful in your life as I am... it's OK that you don't agree with me, don't need to demonstrate that you're an A$$ however...

Depending on how successful you really are that could be a very cruel thing to say. You may have to post some of your bank account statements so we know if you are wishing him well or harm.

Thank you

 

[privatebydesign]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

instaimage, if I had to bet money, is a fake. Simply not displaying enough intelligence to deserve attention.
Jack

Appreciate that bud! Hope you're ½ as successful in your life as I am... it's OK that you don't agree with me, don't need to demonstrate that you're an A$$ however...

Woah dude. Out of the two of you I know who I would consider the A$$ :

 

[privatebydesign]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

The 1DX2 will "process" (same give or takes, but from recent files...) 308 MB/s. This is using 22 MB files at 14 FPS.

to be fair. the 1DX Mark II has 3 DiGiC's .. one dedicated to AF/AE and the other two simply for image processing. the 5D Mark IV will not that. the 1DX Mark II also has a big honking battery and heatsink.

The 5Ds throughput, yes, it's under that .. however consider that the CIPA rating of the 5D Mark III is 950 while the CIPA of the 5Ds was 700.

Food for thought.

The 5D3 has dual digic, the 5DS has dual digic... can't we expect the 5D4 to have dual digic? The 5DS is pushing more data than the 5D4 and is over a year older. I don't understand that. The 5D4, even at 8 FPS or for that matter push it to 10 FPS isn't competing with the 7D2... FF vs. crop, nearly twice the price, etc., there are just too many differences... but as everyone on here is saying, I have no clue what I'm talking about so... I'll just STFU...

The 5D MkIII is single Digic, the 5DS/R is dual Digic. Not hard to understand if you take a couple of seconds before you engage your keyboard.

 

[Eldar]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

instaimage, if I had to bet money, is a fake. Simply not displaying enough intelligence to deserve attention.

These threads, so close to an announcement sure become a drag although there is still some helpful information to be gleaned. I will not buy the 1DX II until after the full specs are out because my shooting history shows I am often reach limited (and can't afford the $ or weight of a longer lens) and staying with 20 MP (1DX II) moving from the 6D is somewhat disappointing. I cannot justify a 5DS backed by a 6D for my shooting needs as my only two cameras so the 5D IV might just be an option rather than the 1DX II. However, there are all those 1 level features that muddy the water (exposure linked to focus, lit focus points, etc.).

I'd like to hear what others that are in essentially the same situation, are thinking.

Jack

Jack,
To me, the 5DIV seem to be a near perfect camera for your needs (if I have them right). 30MP, with good cropping capability, most likely good low light performance, better noise performance and improved DR. 7 fps is a big improvement over the 6D and most likely plenty for 99% of what you shoot. 4k video (no 60 fps though) is included, with touch screen and DPAF. The AF system will (minimum) be on par with the 5DSR (which is great). Only possible downside is the lack of metering following AF point, but that is still just speculation (it should be included). But I manage with the 5DSR, so I assume you will with a 5DIV. And, it is half the weight of a 1DXII and probably +2k$ available for good glass.

Your choice

Now Eldar an opinion: You do have 1DxII and 5DsR and you like bird photography. 5DIV falls between 1DxII and 5DsR. What would you do?
I think I know the answer: these 2 cameras are more specialized for your needs...

But if you started from scratch which would you choose?

Well, I am amongst the privileged, having both the 5DSR and 1DXII and this combo covers pretty much everything I want to do. However, if I could have only one camera body, I believe the 5DIV (provided the spec rumours are correct) could be a very compelling alternative. If the sensor is good enough, I might buy it as the general walk-around camera and limit the use of the 5DSR to more slow speed tripod work.

 

[Eldar]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

instaimage, if I had to bet money, is a fake. Simply not displaying enough intelligence to deserve attention.
Jack

Appreciate that bud! Hope you're ½ as successful in your life as I am... it's OK that you don't agree with me, don't need to demonstrate that you're an A$$ however...

Ehhh ... Those who need to point out how successful they are ... are (always) quite pitiful, a bit pathetic and normally pretty unsuccessful overall ...

 

[Loswr]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

The 5D3 has dual digic... I have no clue what I'm talking about so... I'll just STFU...

Yes, that just about sums it up (although unfortunately, I doubt you'll follow through with your final statement). Again, well done!

 

[Eldar]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

instaimage, if I had to bet money, is a fake. Simply not displaying enough intelligence to deserve attention.
Jack

Appreciate that bud! Hope you're ½ as successful in your life as I am... it's OK that you don't agree with me, don't need to demonstrate that you're an A$$ however...

Ehhh ... Those who need to point out how successful they are ... are (always) quite pitiful, a bit pathetic and normally pretty unsuccessful overall ...

 

[canonic]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Yes, what changes is that while before it was merely quite likely, now it's a certainty that you're talking out of your ass. Well done!

Read, watch, study and stop talking about my ass:

Let him. Dont blame him. He has an a** issue. He cant help himself. But please, dont think he is an a****** its not ... appropiate 8)

 

[uxr51]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

The level of Fanboy-ism on this thread is impressive.

I don’t know how old or technically savy are most of you but I want to make some things clear:

1.- Those that don’t want or care about video: Video is the future. Images will be a thing of the past in some years and they will be merged with video. A video is a series of stills. Just look at how fast video is taking over stills in every media outlet, facebook, instagram etc. Look how many images vs video are published. Times are changing, and they are changing faster every year.

2.- What some people here are asking is for canon to innovate. Look are other camera companies, the underdogs. They are innovating. Canon is doing the opposite by having some of the technology and means but purposely crippling their products.

3.- If you don’t need a feature on a camera right now it does not mean you will not need it in the future or other people don’t need it right now. I have seen posts of people glad it does not have 4k 60fps. Others saying they don’t want high MP pictures because it takes too much processing power. You are spending thousands on cameras and lenses, go buy a fast pc and you are set. Take a look at your years old 8MP or 480 video and tell me if you wished you had a camera with 24MP or 1080P at the time?

4.- I can assure you that in less than 3 years the company who shall not be named on this forum will be releasing a mirrorless camera that shoots 8K at 30fps and 4K at 120fps. The 5D MK4 will still be shooting 30MP stills at 7 fps and 4k at 30fps. Yes, I know you will not need it, but the younger generations will.

5.- You all need to stop with the brand loyalty. It hurts you and the brand in the long term.

 

[rrcphoto]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

The 1DX2 will "process" (same give or takes, but from recent files...) 308 MB/s. This is using 22 MB files at 14 FPS.

to be fair. the 1DX Mark II has 3 DiGiC's .. one dedicated to AF/AE and the other two simply for image processing. the 5D Mark IV will not that. the 1DX Mark II also has a big honking battery and heatsink.

The 5Ds throughput, yes, it's under that .. however consider that the CIPA rating of the 5D Mark III is 950 while the CIPA of the 5Ds was 700.

Food for thought.

The 5D3 has dual digic, the 5DS has dual digic... can't we expect the 5D4 to have dual digic? The 5DS is pushing more data than the 5D4 and is over a year older. I don't understand that. The 5D4, even at 8 FPS or for that matter push it to 10 FPS isn't competing with the 7D2... FF vs. crop, nearly twice the price, etc., there are just too many differences... but as everyone on here is saying, I have no clue what I'm talking about so... I'll just STFU...

apparently you do have no clue.

5D Mark III:

single DiGiC 5+

and you completely decided not to think about battery life with that.

with Dual DiGiC's and a faster pipeline.. the 5Ds dropped 27% in battery performance.

the 7D Mark II has a much smaller sensor, generates less heat,etc as well and only pushes 200MP/sec or 6.5 fps at 30MP and only CIPA rated at 670 shots.

 

[Loswr]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

He has an a** issue.

 

[rrcphoto]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

The level of Fanboy-ism on this thread is impressive.

you created an account just to whine about a forum thread?

I wonder who's more pathetic.

you or the people you are complaining about?

 

[takesome1]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

The level of Fanboy-ism on this thread is impressive.

I don’t know how old or technically savy are most of you but I want to make some things clear:

1.- Those that don’t want or care about video: Video is the future. Images will be a thing of the past in some years and they will be merged with video. A video is a series of stills. Just look at how fast video is taking over stills in every media outlet, facebook, instagram etc. Look how many images vs video are published. Times are changing, and they are changing faster every year.

2.- What some people here are asking is for canon to innovate. Look are other camera companies, the underdogs. They are innovating. Canon is doing the opposite by having some of the technology and means but purposely crippling their products.

3.- If you don’t need a feature on a camera right now it does not mean you will not need it in the future or other people don’t need it right now. I have seen posts of people glad it does not have 4k 60fps. Others saying they don’t want high MP pictures because it takes too much processing power. You are spending thousands on cameras and lenses, go buy a fast pc and you are set. Take a look at your years old 8MP or 480 video and tell me if you wished you had a camera with 24MP or 1080P at the time?

4.- I can assure you that in less than 3 years the company who shall not be named on this forum will be releasing a mirrorless camera that shoots 8K at 30fps and 4K at 120fps. The 5D MK4 will still be shooting 30MP stills at 7 fps and 4k at 30fps. Yes, I know you will not need it, but the younger generations will.

5.- You all need to stop with the brand loyalty. It hurts you and the brand in the long term.

Item 1, You are correct on a few points. However stills will not be a thing of the past. Maybe more video but not a thing of the past.

Item 2, You speculate, you do not know what technology Canon has or does not have. my response to this seems to be the norm the last few pages and the way to respond to this, you are talking out your a**.

Item 4, I doubt this "company" shared their future plans with you. See last comment on Item 2.

Item 5, With the amount of money invested in gear, and the high cost of switching brands, it is inevitable that owners of a certain brand will be loyal.

 

[Graphix501]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Wow, I was seriously considering buying one of these but I don't think I can now... reading this thread has made me realise that people may see me using it and associate me with you lot ;D ;D ;D

But seriously, as a semi pro motorsport photographer and existing 5D iii user, this looks like a great all rounder and a decent upgrade.

The mega pixel bump should be great for cropping, the shutter speed upgrade is reasonable... don't care about video, never will (lots of people say its the future.... I sell prints)... cfast? I don't care - if write speeds are as good as the 5D iii fine (lets not limit the SD card though) built in wifi good

Of course its not going to be right for everyone, but for me it looks like the perfect tool got better... just to give some balance to the discussion Not everyone can afford the flagship (and to be honest I think the extra 10mpx make this more attractive for me) - comparing each line to one another seems like a pointless exercise. Don't like it? don't buy it. I'm more than happy with the images I get with what I have but if the tool can be improved in all the areas I use it fine, i'm interested

 

[takesome1]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Wow, I was seriously considering buying one of these but I don't think I can now... reading this thread has made me realise that people may see me using it and associate me with you lot ;D ;D ;D

But seriously, as a semi pro motorsport photographer and existing 5D iii user, this looks like a great all rounder and a decent upgrade.

The mega pixel bump should be great for cropping, the shutter speed upgrade is reasonable... don't care about video, never will (lots of people say its the future.... I sell prints)... cfast? I don't care - if write speeds are as good as the 5D iii fine (lets not limit the SD card though) built in wifi good

Of course its not going to be right for everyone, but for me it looks like the perfect tool got better... just to give some balance to the discussion Not everyone can afford the flagship (and to be honest I think the extra 10mpx make this more attractive for me) - comparing each line to one another seems like a pointless exercise. Don't like it? don't buy it. I'm more than happy with the images I get with what I have but if the tool can be improved in all the areas I use it fine, i'm interested

Woa: from reading some of the posts on this thread you may be the only customer that buys this camera. What are you going to do when Canon goes bankrupt and you have no product support?

 

[Graphix501]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Wow, I was seriously considering buying one of these but I don't think I can now... reading this thread has made me realise that people may see me using it and associate me with you lot ;D ;D ;D

But seriously, as a semi pro motorsport photographer and existing 5D iii user, this looks like a great all rounder and a decent upgrade.

The mega pixel bump should be great for cropping, the shutter speed upgrade is reasonable... don't care about video, never will (lots of people say its the future.... I sell prints)... cfast? I don't care - if write speeds are as good as the 5D iii fine (lets not limit the SD card though) built in wifi good

Of course its not going to be right for everyone, but for me it looks like the perfect tool got better... just to give some balance to the discussion Not everyone can afford the flagship (and to be honest I think the extra 10mpx make this more attractive for me) - comparing each line to one another seems like a pointless exercise. Don't like it? don't buy it. I'm more than happy with the images I get with what I have but if the tool can be improved in all the areas I use it fine, i'm interested

Woa: from reading some of the posts on this thread you may be the only customer that buys this camera. What are you going to do when Canon goes bankrupt and you have no product support?

Troll the Sony and Nikon forums of course

 

[Mr. Milo]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

4.- I can assure you that in less than 3 years the company who shall not be named on this forum will be releasing a mirrorless camera that shoots 8K at 30fps and 4K at 120fps. The 5D MK4 will still be shooting 30MP stills at 7 fps and 4k at 30fps. Yes, I know you will not need it, but the younger generations will.

5.- You all need to stop with the brand loyalty. It hurts you and the brand in the long term.

Oh. My. God. 8K mirrorless camera in 3 years eh? HAHAHAHA LOL. U wot m8? This is trolling at its' finest. Drive by post. "The company who shall not be named..." What's next? "The Artist formerly known as?"