*UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

[Don Haines]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Back to that leak photo, wonder where the microphone holes have been moved to?

If they do a decent job of sealing it, there will be no microphone holes, the mike will be behind a thin membrane.....

 

[zim]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Back to that leak photo, wonder where the microphone holes have been moved to?

If they do a decent job of sealing it, there will be no microphone holes, the mike will be behind a thin membrane.....

Would that be the unique new feature then, even the 1Dx2 has those holes ;D

 

[Jack Douglas]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

;D ;D

Jack

 

[Don Haines]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Back to that leak photo, wonder where the microphone holes have been moved to?

If they do a decent job of sealing it, there will be no microphone holes, the mike will be behind a thin membrane.....

Would that be the unique new feature then, even the 1Dx2 has those holes ;D

Sorry, I got confused between two cameras.....

You are right, Canon has the holes with the membrane behind it....

 

[tpatana]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Back to that leak photo, wonder where the microphone holes have been moved to?

If they do a decent job of sealing it, there will be no microphone holes, the mike will be behind a thin membrane.....

Would that be the unique new feature then, even the 1Dx2 has those holes ;D

Sorry, I got confused between two cameras.....

You are right, Canon has the holes with the membrane behind it....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RijB8wnJCN0

 

[tron]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

After 52 pages of talk on a possibly imaginary camera the thread becomes about holes... ;D ;D ;D

 

[3kramd5]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

After 52 pages of talk on a possibly imaginary camera the thread becomes about holes... ;D ;D ;D

Seals for Vapor(ware)

 

[1DX2Uncut]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Back to that leak photo, wonder where the microphone holes have been moved to?

If they do a decent job of sealing it, there will be no microphone holes, the mike will be behind a thin membrane.....

That's because there will be no internal microphone. External mic only! The way real audio is recorded!!

 

[Cthulhu]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

..I am loving the 500/4ii (got the other week) so much I figure it deserves a decent body, something with a little "punch"...

Yup, same combo I use (I think I may have recommended the lens to you too ). As much as the 5D3 is still a great camera, moving to the 1DX2 is terrific. Poor light? Bang up the ISO and keep shooting!

If you haven't already done so, register your gear with CPS Europe. It's free in Europe and you don't need to be a pro to use the service, just have enough qualifying gear and off you go. One of the benefits is you'll get an extra 1yr warranty for your 1DX2.

I recall looking at the CPS requirements here in Canada and it seems to me you had to produce proof of earning a living with the gear or essentially that. A 1DX II purchase for me would take care of the rest, so anyone please clarify.

I've been going nuts over this 30 MP vs 1DX II 20 MP since I often have to crop quite a lot. I really want the 1DX II if it were not for that. So the question I guess is this, is it likely the difference is not as great as it would seem based on the trade-offs that come with smaller pixel pitch?

Regarding fps the DP review page has a sequence of shots at 14fps, by skipping i.e. 1,3,5 .... you can see what 7 fps would be giving you. You can slide back one frame and say "now would be happy if I missed this". Of course everyone would like more but this helps to evaluate as opposed to speculate.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-1D-X-Mark-II.aspx

Jack

That'd be misleading, regarding fps. No doubt the 1dx 2 will move that autofocus faster and keep the buffer always clean so if I were to limit mine to 6 fps I'm sure I'd get many more sharp shots than my 5d mk3.

As far as mp are concerned, I can crop much more liberally with the 5d3 than with the 1dx2 and I could crop with a 5ds r without ever worrying about it, but if you often find yourself in situations where fps is important than only the 1dx will do it. Eventually you'll adjust your shooting style to make up for it with more interesting compositions or spend the moneys on longer lenses.

Given the price tag the 1dx mk2 should only be of concern for people who need the absolute fastest, you absolutely will sacrifice detail.

 

[leGreve]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

To reignite the debate on CF vs CFast...

... in this thread:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=30495.msg613656

CFast effectively allows for endless shooting (until the card fills) because the buffer is written out to the card quicker than it can fill ... even with raw.

Which wont matter, because a dslr is by tax law not allowed to record more than 29minutes..... so it will never get cfast, unless ofcourse canon wants to piss on their still costumers economy.

 

[Rejay14]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

To reignite the debate on CF vs CFast...

... in this thread:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=30495.msg613656

CFast effectively allows for endless shooting (until the card fills) because the buffer is written out to the card quicker than it can fill ... even with raw.

Which wont matter, because a dslr is by tax law not allowed to record more than 29minutes..... so it will never get cfast, unless ofcourse canon wants to piss on their still costumers economy.

The 1DXII is a DSLR with CFast...?

 

[Mikehit]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Which wont matter, because a dslr is by tax law not allowed to record more than 29minutes.....

In the EU.

 

[kaihp]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

If you haven't already done so, register your gear with CPS Europe. It's free in Europe and you don't need to be a pro to use the service, just have enough qualifying gear and off you go. One of the benefits is you'll get an extra 1yr warranty for your 1DX2.

I recall looking at the CPS requirements here in Canada and it seems to me you had to produce proof of earning a living with the gear or essentially that. A 1DX II purchase for me would take care of the rest, so anyone please clarify.

I cannot speak for Canada, but in Denmark you just need two qualifying bodies* and 3 qualifying lenses**. No need to prove that you make money from shooting. I'm at the "Gold" level and I'm just a happy amateur.

*) Ye Olde 50D still qualifies, which is why I kept it around. Should be selling it RSN.
**) Most lenses qualify. Probably not the kit lenses though.

Edit: found the 'qualifying products' list: https://cps.canon-europe.com/Public/QualifyingProducts

 

[Sharlin]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Which wont matter, because a dslr is by tax law not allowed to record more than 29minutes.....

In the EU.

To be precise, nobody stops a DSLR from recording more than 29 minutes of video, in the EU or elsewhere. The EU simply imposes a higher import tariff rate on "video cameras" and stills camera manufacturers want to avoid that.

 

[Jack Douglas]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

If you haven't already done so, register your gear with CPS Europe. It's free in Europe and you don't need to be a pro to use the service, just have enough qualifying gear and off you go. One of the benefits is you'll get an extra 1yr warranty for your 1DX2.

I recall looking at the CPS requirements here in Canada and it seems to me you had to produce proof of earning a living with the gear or essentially that. A 1DX II purchase for me would take care of the rest, so anyone please clarify.

I cannot speak for Canada, but in Denmark you just need two qualifying bodies* and 3 qualifying lenses**. No need to prove that you make money from shooting. I'm at the "Gold" level and I'm just a happy amateur.

*) Ye Olde 50D still qualifies, which is why I kept it around. Should be selling it RSN.
**) Most lenses qualify. Probably not the kit lenses though.

Edit: found the 'qualifying products' list: https://cps.canon-europe.com/Public/QualifyingProducts

Thanks for that. I just viewed the CPS Canada and contrary to what I thought, it states Pro for platinum and cinema but Gold seems only equipment. In proceeding to apply there did not seem to be a burden of proof regarding pro but maybe that gets verified in due course. So, it looks like I will qualify once the 1DX II is purchased. Gold is $100/yr.

Jack

 

[Loswr]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

...
The 1DXII is a DSLR with CFast...?

Yes

How about the 1D C, dilbert...is that a dSLR?

 

[TAF]

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

...
Seriously, there was a first time poster some time back in this thread who stated 'the future is video' and everyone will just take their stills from the 4K vid, and so the 5DIV specs are a disaster etc, etc.

In fact there is a move in some areas towards doing this for still images; I have a friend who is a professional in an international automotive industry, and this is what he is now doing, through demand from the client. But of course he is using a 4K video camera, not a dslr !

Do you have an iPhone that can take and send/receive "moments"?

No, I don't use a smart phone. They don't suit my lifestyle. Why, were you going to send me a 'moment' ?

Because now with iPhones, you can capture "moments" when you take a picture and send a "moment". They're generally a short (couple of second) video clips that essentially let you send an "animated" or "live" photo.

That's the sort of thing that the younger generation have available to them now "easily" which is part of why some might say that "the future is video."

Who wants to send a picture of a smile when you can send a short live picture of someone laughing?

Think back to Blade Runner where you see him looking at the picture of the front of a house and you see the shadows move. That's not a picture, that's video. Anyone want to invent "video paper"?

Yup, I have an iPhone, and if you can tell me where the setting to disable that "Live" feature is, please do.

I find it dreadfully annoying.

If I want video, I'll shot video. If I want stills, please make them, well, still.

Video paper? Might that be an extension of e-ink (Kindle tech)?

 

[Loswr]

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Video paper? Might that be an extension of e-ink (Kindle tech)?

The Daily Prophet already has it!

 

[jeffa4444]

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Anyone shooting video to create still photos is a hack. Your friend who is a "professional" will be out of business soon if this is how he/she operates. It often sounds like people take more pride in owning "the best" equipment than they do using it to create beautiful images.

Some of the most talented fashion photographers in the world are using Red cameras. Go to there web-site and visit the photography tab. ASOS the online clothing retailer has been mixing frame grabs from video for years I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee the two worlds collided years ago.

Conversely tell Annie Leibovitz she is heading for the scrap heap!

 

[Sporgon]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Anyone shooting video to create still photos is a hack. Your friend who is a "professional" will be out of business soon if this is how he/she operates. It often sounds like people take more pride in owning "the best" equipment than they do using it to create beautiful images.

Some of the most talented fashion photographers in the world are using Red cameras. Go to there web-site and visit the photography tab. ASOS the online clothing retailer has been mixing frame grabs from video for years I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee the two worlds collided years ago.

Conversely tell Annie Leibovitz she is heading for the scrap heap!

Don't prick angus's balloon Jeffa ! Some people thrive in ignorance