*UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

[Cosmicbug]

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May be to you Dilbert but I don't have an axe to grind on here and pleased Canon have evolved the 5D4 enough to stop me from continuing with my three year old Mk3. Often crop my images in my work and 30mpx will help in that area. I would have liked 10fps but that was always unlikely. 8fps would have been sweet!

Canon has done enough for me to justify the move to the newer model. I will be trading in my 5D3. I am sure ithe IV will continue to earn me a living.

Really guys, where else could I go???

Sounds like Canon own you.

 

[Dave Del Real]

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Sony still seems to have "prettier" noise...

And uglier skin tones and color science.

 

[PureClassA]

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Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications: (2016)

30.4mp CHECK
7fps HM
Compact Flash/SD Card Slots (No CFast) LOL
Built-in Wifi OK
24/30fps @ 4K This is a Joke for a new camera what is in 3 years in development
60fps @ 1080 LOL - MIN 120
120fps @ 720 WHO CARES ABOUT 720? First TV stations in Japan broadcasting 8k
4:2:2 4:4:4
8bit 500mbps MJPEG LOL

From my 20 colleagues 16 went to Sony. Canon had a huge chance to innovate the market but this is a DEAD HORSE. I invested over 20k in Canon glass and I own Canon EOS-1D X Mark II.
Without the correct LUT and 4:4:4 output this is just a nice Z camera. We all been waiting for Canon to give us some innovation but in 2016 a touch screen and WIFI is simple not enough...
Fact is Sony is taking over and Canon with this strange marketing strategy is not going anywhere.
Protecting the C line is a very bad mistake...

: Dude... LOL. Amazing.

 

[Dave Del Real]

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....Protecting the C line is a very bad mistake...

One of the smartest lines I've read here...

 

[Mikehit]

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I should sell all of my gear.

I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Thank you for helping me realize that I have no business in photography or commenting on cameras.

This has been a phenomenal learning experience.

I wish I knew these things about myself earlier in life.

As the saying goes... better late than never!

I have long been convinced that a lot of talk about having better camera for more DR, greater resolution or whatever you are looking for is more about photographers ego than it is about genuine. It is about the photographer knowing they have the best camera rather than any viewer actually caring what they are using. Even for demanding professional how many clients can actually tell the difference between what the demanding pro says is 'brilliant', 'so-so' and 'awful'.

0.5EV of DR between generations does not make a noticeable difference to the final output. But a 0.5EV improvement over successive generations does. A lot of serious photographers I either know or have corresponded with subscribe to the view of taking up on every second generation for that reason.

 

[deorum]

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OK, i've seen the new updated rumor, and correct me if i am wrong because i admit i have a lot of things to learn in video.

Since the bitrate is the same as 1dx2 in most settings (500mbps), do i think that the limitation to not shot 120fps @ 1080p, is not a hardware issue?
I know 1dx2 can reach as high as 800mbps with a CFAST for 60fps/4K, but unless my math is wrong, 500mbps should be enough, and of enough quality, for 120fps 1080p (1/4th of the 30fps/4K).

 

[bart13]

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I really hope it has a normal codec for 4k and not only mjpeg

 

[rrcphoto]

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Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications: (2016)

30.4mp CHECK
7fps HM
Compact Flash/SD Card Slots (No CFast) LOL
Built-in Wifi OK
24/30fps @ 4K This is a Joke for a new camera what is in 3 years in development
60fps @ 1080 LOL - MIN 120
120fps @ 720 WHO CARES ABOUT 720? First TV stations in Japan broadcasting 8k
4:2:2 4:4:4
8bit 500mbps MJPEG LOL

From my 20 colleagues 16 went to Sony. Canon had a huge chance to innovate the market but this is a DEAD HORSE. I invested over 20k in Canon glass and I own Canon EOS-1D X Mark II.
Without the correct LUT and 4:4:4 output this is just a nice Z camera. We all been waiting for Canon to give us some innovation but in 2016 a touch screen and WIFI is simple not enough...
Fact is Sony is taking over and Canon with this strange marketing strategy is not going anywhere.
Protecting the C line is a very bad mistake...

lol .. sure they did.


fact is .. sony has a 12% marketshare that is heavily inflated by their dubious statistics.

 

[CSD]

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I shoot 720p for distribution purposes and marketing snippets for clients. It's faster to edit and render, especially if all you're doing is 2-3min clips. 120fps might give me some creative choices, yes I'd prefer 1080p but 60fps is good enough for the work I do.

 

[John2016]

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lol .. sure they did.


fact is .. sony has a 12% marketshare that is heavily inflated by their dubious statistics.
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http://improvephotography.com/35440/state-of-the-camera-industry-report-how-much-trouble-are-canon-and-nikon-in/

http://www.diyphotography.net/japan-has-spoken-canon-dominates-sony-dethrones-olympus-and-nikon-stutters/

http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/those-are-the-2015-japanese-camera-sales-info-via-bcnranking/

How long Sony produce mirrorless cameras? ???

 

[Loswr]

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From my 20 colleagues 16 went to Sony. Canon had a huge chance to innovate the market but this is a DEAD HORSE.

Wow, 20 people...that's a big sample. : Are you suggesting that your buddies are representative of the global market?

 

[PureClassA]

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fact is .. sony has a 12% marketshare that is heavily inflated by their dubious statistics.

Let's not forget their world renowned Sony Professional Service that all the pros rave about or their amazing reliability and extra long battery life. Do you see all those Sony cameras all over the Olympics?!?!

.... me neither.

 

[PureClassA]

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From my 20 colleagues 16 went to Sony. Canon had a huge chance to innovate the market but this is a DEAD HORSE.

Wow, 20 people...that's a big sample. : Are you suggesting that your buddies are representative of the global market?

His 20 imaginary friends? Or 20 people that all share the same brain?

 

[John2016]

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fact is .. sony has a 12% marketshare that is heavily inflated by their dubious statistics.

Let's not forget their world renowned Sony Professional Service that all the pros rave about or their amazing reliability and extra long battery life. Do you see all those Sony cameras all over the Olympics?!?!

.... me neither.

https://blog.sony.com/press/nbc-olympics-selects-sony-to-provide-broadcast-and-production-equipment-for-its-coverage-of-the-2016-olympic-games-in-rio/

 

[Mikehit]

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And what does CPS with a room full of cameras and lenses do for me?

Nothing.

Which to me makes Sony's lack of professional services about as inconveniencing as CPS is convenient.

That room full of lenses is little more than testament to Canon's support of professional clients. It isn't so much Sony's lack of 'professional services' a la CPS, as their quite appalling after-sales support in general. That alone make me hesitant to think about Sony as a viable alternative.
And were I a working professional, knowing that Canon prioritise their clients in the way they do (as opposed to Sony) would give me confidence that I could continue to earn my money if my camera failed.

 

[Mikehit]

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fact is .. sony has a 12% marketshare that is heavily inflated by their dubious statistics.

Let's not forget their world renowned Sony Professional Service that all the pros rave about or their amazing reliability and extra long battery life. Do you see all those Sony cameras all over the Olympics?!?!

.... me neither.

https://blog.sony.com/press/nbc-olympics-selects-sony-to-provide-broadcast-and-production-equipment-for-its-coverage-of-the-2016-olympic-games-in-rio/

That is video, not stills.

 

[John2016]

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fact is .. sony has a 12% marketshare that is heavily inflated by their dubious statistics.

Let's not forget their world renowned Sony Professional Service that all the pros rave about or their amazing reliability and extra long battery life. Do you see all those Sony cameras all over the Olympics?!?!

.... me neither.

https://blog.sony.com/press/nbc-olympics-selects-sony-to-provide-broadcast-and-production-equipment-for-its-coverage-of-the-2016-olympic-games-in-rio/

That is video, not stills.

Who talks about stills?

 

[PureClassA]

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fact is .. sony has a 12% marketshare that is heavily inflated by their dubious statistics.

Let's not forget their world renowned Sony Professional Service that all the pros rave about or their amazing reliability and extra long battery life. Do you see all those Sony cameras all over the Olympics?!?!

.... me neither.

https://blog.sony.com/press/nbc-olympics-selects-sony-to-provide-broadcast-and-production-equipment-for-its-coverage-of-the-2016-olympic-games-in-rio/

Broadcast equipment... We're talking about apples in here and your defense is to talk about oranges. Nice

 

[Don Haines]

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And what does CPS with a room full of cameras and lenses do for me?

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the world isn't all about you.......

 

[John2016]

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fact is .. sony has a 12% marketshare that is heavily inflated by their dubious statistics.

Let's not forget their world renowned Sony Professional Service that all the pros rave about or their amazing reliability and extra long battery life. Do you see all those Sony cameras all over the Olympics?!?!

.... me neither.

https://blog.sony.com/press/nbc-olympics-selects-sony-to-provide-broadcast-and-production-equipment-for-its-coverage-of-the-2016-olympic-games-in-rio/

Broadcast equipment... We're talking about apples in here and your defense is to talk about oranges. Nice

When I talked about apples?