Where are you EOS 70D?

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>The next EOS body


</strong>CP+ in Japan is coming up on January 31, 2013 and we haven’t heard a thing about Canon making a product announcement for the show.</p>
<p>That being said, there are lots of reports of 60D stocks being low. We’ve been told previously that a 70D will appear before a 7D replacement. It’s said to be an incremental upgrade from the 60D. Although, we’ve heard that wifi and gps will be added to the xxD line with the 70D.</p>
<p>The image sensor may remain at 18mp as Canon separates the 7D Mark II with a new, higher performing APS-C sensor. This makes a lot of sense as I think the APS-C segment needs a jolt and not more of the same.</p>
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[TheBadger]

No! Stop! Canon no! For the love of every thing that is precious in this world, do not release another camera with that same sensor! I have been waiting for eons for a new APS-C sensor in a semi-professional body! Will I have to wait another two more years? I don't have the budget to buy a 7D mkII and I have been saving for this precious little thing the 70D. Please don't screw it up.

 

[kubelik]

I think they're trying to get some sort of record for wringing the most profit from a sensor, over the longest lifespan

 

[jebrady03]

Where are you EOS 70D?

If it's an incremental upgrade with the same sensor and only GPS/wifi to differentiate it, I don't care where it is - it's not EVER going to be on my radar. I'll stick with my 60D - thanks! In fact, it would take a pretty dramatic upgrade for me to move along - or, a FF version of the 60D. I don't care what anyone says, the swivel screen is AWESOME and is perfect for LOTS of shooting scenarios. FF (and all the benefits that come with it like improved ISO, etc.) + Fast live view focusing, a larger viewfinder, MFA and nothing else has to change for me - I'd upgrade immediately. More focus points would be nice, but I could live without them.

 

[x-vision]

... as Canon separates the 7D Mark II with a new, higher performing APS-C sensor. This makes a lot of sense as I think the APS-C segment needs a jolt and not more of the same.

+1000

Canon, are you listening?

 

[Don Haines]

Think Rebel T4i with a shoulder display and two dials and better build quality...... sort of like the difference between the 60D and the T3i.

I would probably stick to the 60D.... not sure if Wireless is quite ready yet and besides, I tend to upgrade every second or third model, not each time a new one comes out.

 

[Aglet]

No! Stop! Canon no! For the love of every thing that is precious in this world, do not release another camera with that same sensor! I have been waiting for eons for a new APS-C sensor in a semi-professional body! Will I have to wait another two more years? I don't have the budget to buy a 7D mkII and I have been saving for this precious little thing the 70D. Please don't screw it up.

+1
if the only thing a 70D gets is 60D tech + GPS and WiFi it's OK as an upgrade for some but not those already with a 60D. Still the 60D's sensor COULD use a little improvement in noise performance at low ISO and, if they make the 70D low ISO noise performance as good as the new 6D's, it's an incremental upgrade in file quality.

I think they're trying to get some sort of record for wringing the most profit from a sensor, over the longest lifespan

That's business.

 

[Famateur]

No! Stop! Canon no! For the love of every thing that is precious in this world, do not release another camera with that same sensor! I have been waiting for eons for a new APS-C sensor in a semi-professional body! Will I have to wait another two more years? I don't have the budget to buy a 7D mkII and I have been saving for this precious little thing the 70D. Please don't screw it up.

Amen!!!

If all they do is update the sensor to the same as the T4i and add WiFi, GPS and touch screen, I might as well just buy the 60D for <$600 and use the rest for glass. I just can't bring myself to buy a 3-year-old camera just because the price is falling.

I don't really care about megapixels. Eighteen is plenty for me -- it's the high-ISO noise where I'd like to see the most improvement in sensor tech. That's probably the only thing really stopping me from snapping-up the 60D at current prices (well that and no AFMA).

Oh well. I guess I'd rather endure a dearth of rumors of the 70D and still hope for an impressive new sensor than read a bunch of CR2 and 3 pointing toward a repackaging of the old camera with the new whistles and bells...

Okay...time to breathe a little and go take some photos with my G12. It still takes damn good pictures for a point-and-shoot...

 

[20Dave]

This makes a lot of sense as I think the APS-C segment needs a jolt and not more of the same.

Huh?

APS-C segment needs a jolt yet happy with the 70D being more of the same?
Is anyone thinking about what they write on the front page of CR?

I believe they are talking about the 7DII as the jolt in the APS-C market, not the 70D.

 

[intence01]

Are you kidding me, another camera with the 18MP sensor?!? 7D, T2i, T3i, T4i, 60D, and now possibly 70D?!? This doesn't bode well for the consumer.

 

[that1guyy]

I've been waiting for a 70D for a long time. But if it releases with no improvements in dynamic range, noise performance, and no improvements on the video front, I ain't buying. I'd rather wait a few months and see a quality upgrade then the same old crap that we have for the past three years.

 

[that1guyy]

The image sensor may remain at 18mp as Canon separates the 7D Mark II with a new, higher performing APS-C sensor.

Queue reviews of it where people say "Just the 60D, warmed up with WiFi. Nothing important here, move along."

What's the point of releasing a 70D if it is just going to have the same sensor?

This makes a lot of sense as I think the APS-C segment needs a jolt and not more of the same.

Huh?

APS-C segment needs a jolt yet happy with the 70D being more of the same?
Is anyone thinking about what they write on the front page of CR?

Agreed. The Canon Rumors team literally has no info but post this useless garbage just to get views.

 

[wickidwombat]

I have a CR2 on the 70D

It will be epically undewhelming
a cobbled together franken-camera
using the current 18MP APS-C sensor
they will manage to make the AF worse than the 60D (dont believe me? well they cant make it better than the 6D's 1 cross point now can they!)

it will be ushered in on a river of tears from canon users

 

[RendrLab]

I would rather be run over by a bus then believe that Canon would not improve on the 60D, especially after the 60Da. I saw that as a life-lengthener to the 60D, even if it's only real changes are the astrophotography adjustments.
Canon has lasted this long and I highly doubt that they are naïve enough to not know they better bring something better to the table for us 60D folks than just a few wallet warrior options. Sure, WiFi & GPS have there places in some peoples work/photography styles, but for those of us that didn't get the 60D at the current low pricing bought that camera because it was all-around better than the Rebel line of cameras (the swivel screen was just a bonus (for the most part anyway.)
With the T4i getting GPS and touchscreen and the 6D getting WiFi & GPS, I believe Canon is testing the waters to see what us lower-middle class (in range of cameras, not in actual income) DSLR buyers desire more, toys or IQ.
I honestly wouldn't care if the 70D, or whatever it's name will be, looked identical to the 60D as long as they improved on noise across the ISO range & maybe give it STM ability.
Also, if you happen to be listening Canon, please get rid of the frickin smooshy directional pad and let us have the joystick for AF!

 

[wickidwombat]

I would rather be run over by a bus then believe that Canon would not improve on the 60D, especially after the 60Da. I saw that as a life-lengthener to the 60D, even if it's only real changes are the astrophotography adjustments.
Canon has lasted this long and I highly doubt that they are naïve enough to not know they better bring something better to the table for us 60D folks than just a few wallet warrior options. Sure, WiFi & GPS have there places in some peoples work/photography styles, but for those of us that didn't get the 60D at the current low pricing bought that camera because it was all-around better than the Rebel line of cameras (the swivel screen was just a bonus (for the most part anyway.)
With the T4i getting GPS and touchscreen and the 6D getting WiFi & GPS, I believe Canon is testing the waters to see what us lower-middle class (in range of cameras, not in actual income) DSLR buyers desire more, toys are IQ.
I honestly wouldn't care if the 70D, or whatever it's name will be, looked identical to the 60D as long as they improved on noise across the ISO range & maybe give it STM ability.

sorry but you might want to get hold of a bus timetable...

its going to be 6D AF... (or the same 9 point all cross type in the 60D which would be a good thing)
same ol 18 MP sensor (no you wont get any iso improvements)
same plastic body
same controls
swivel screen
GPS and Wifi
pop up flash
single SD card

 

[RendrLab]

I would rather be run over by a bus then believe that Canon would not improve on the 60D, especially after the 60Da. I saw that as a life-lengthener to the 60D, even if it's only real changes are the astrophotography adjustments.
Canon has lasted this long and I highly doubt that they are naïve enough to not know they better bring something better to the table for us 60D folks than just a few wallet warrior options. Sure, WiFi & GPS have there places in some peoples work/photography styles, but for those of us that didn't get the 60D at the current low pricing bought that camera because it was all-around better than the Rebel line of cameras (the swivel screen was just a bonus (for the most part anyway.)
With the T4i getting GPS and touchscreen and the 6D getting WiFi & GPS, I believe Canon is testing the waters to see what us lower-middle class (in range of cameras, not in actual income) DSLR buyers desire more, toys are IQ.
I honestly wouldn't care if the 70D, or whatever it's name will be, looked identical to the 60D as long as they improved on noise across the ISO range & maybe give it STM ability.

sorry but you might want to get hold of a bus timetable...

its going to be 6D AF... (or the same 9 point all cross type in the 60D which would be a good thing)
same ol 18 MP sensor (no you wont get any iso improvements)
same plastic body
same controls
swivel screen
GPS and Wifi
pop up flash
single SD card

Blasphemy I tell you...

 

[jrista]

I think they're trying to get some sort of record for wringing the most profit from a sensor, over the longest lifespan

+1

Although, from a business perspective, I gotta hand it to Canon for actually achieving that. That IS kind of the holy grail of business...to make a product that lasts forever.

 

[wickidwombat]

I think they're trying to get some sort of record for wringing the most profit from a sensor, over the longest lifespan

+1

Although, from a business perspective, I gotta hand it to Canon for actually achieving that. That IS kind of the holy grail of business...to make a product that lasts forever.

the most impressive part is how they are wringing such a lot of profit / life out of such a BAD sensor

 

[jrista]

I think they're trying to get some sort of record for wringing the most profit from a sensor, over the longest lifespan

+1

Although, from a business perspective, I gotta hand it to Canon for actually achieving that. That IS kind of the holy grail of business...to make a product that lasts forever.

the most impressive part is how they are wringing such a lot of profit / life out of such a BAD sensor

I wouldn't call it a "bad" sensor. Roger Clark has some interesting comparisons of IQ between the 7D and a number of other cameras, including the 5D II, 1D IV, etc. The 7D in those comparisons is actually good, captures more detail, just as much if not more light, all despite the added noise. On a size-normal basis, the 7D tends to outperform even the 1D IV until higher ISO settings.

It is not a "great" sensor, but technically and statistically speaking neither is it a "bad" sensor...it is just a middle-ground sensor that neither "wows" like the D800 nor truly sucks like a cheap P&S with a 16mp microsensor with pixels barely large enough to accommodate the wavelengths of light its supposed to be capturing. I don't think any of that actually changes your point, however... ;P

 

[M.ST]

Wake up Canon. I need the 7D Mark II to replace the teleconverters.

The 70D can wait.