We haven’t forgotten about the Canon EOS R1, and you probably haven’t either [CR2]

Del Paso

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Sorry to put this comment here. Does anyone else who is a CR Pro subscriber see advertisements on the CR site over the last week or so? I am wondering what is happening as one of the reasons for signing up as CR Pro, apart from supporting the site, is to have an advertisment-free experience. Now I am getting unwanted videos, big banners on the bottom etc. Also, when I tried to go to an article, clicking on the link resulted in an ad poping up. It is getting unpleasant. Could CR explain what is happening?
I never got one single advertisement since I became CR Pro, honest. And even before, my ad-blockers were 99,5% efficient.
I live in France and Germany, by the way... Could be the reason.
 
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entoman

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Craig is himself annoyed with what is going on and working hard with the site developers to sort out the problems. This is very much a state-of-the art site and is continually being developed. I too have to bear with problems.
Why do even non-CR Pro folk have to put up with such annoyances anyway?

We all accept that it's necessary to fund the site, and that that means being subjected to unwanted advertising, but is is really necessary to have huge pop-ups blocking the content?

Does it not occur to the advertisers and the website owners, that the most obvious responses to such intrusions are:

a) a strong likelihood that irritated users will visit the website *less* frequently.

b) a strong likelihood that irritated users will deliberately avoid buying anything from the advertisers in question.

Fortunately there is enough of interest on CR to keep me here despite the annoyances, but I've already permanently abandoned several other sites that use the same extremely intrusive advertising.
 
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AlanF

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Yeah, people have been saying that for a decade. Somehow, Canon continues to dominate the market.

But hey, a stopped analog clock is right 0.139% of the time. So keep going, you’ve probably got a similar chance.
Hey, you are assuming analogue hands move once a minute. Even an old-fashioned grandfather (tall case) clock moves the hands in 1 second intervals. That reduces it to 0.0023%. In 1672 or so, Joseph Knibb made a split seconds clock that beat 1/3s for Professor Gregory at St Andrews University. That would reduce it being right 0.00077% of the time - getting closer to the accuracy of some of the comments here.

 
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SteveC

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Does it not occur to the advertisers and the website owners, that the most obvious responses to such intrusions are:

a) a strong likelihood that irritated users will visit the website *less* frequently.

b) a strong likelihood that irritated users will deliberately avoid buying anything from the advertisers in question.

Fortunately there is enough of interest on CR to keep me here despite the annoyances, but I've already permanently abandoned several other sites that use the same extremely intrusive advertising.
Not that I've been getting hit with this stuff (ad blockers--but I did buy the lower of the two pro levels anyway). But I've often wondered the same thing in general about genuinely obnoxious advertising--everything from loud TV ads to popups that cover the center of the screen.

There is a sincere belief in many quarters that ANY publicity is good publicity.

And you can't convince them otherwise.
 
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Del Paso

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Not that I've been getting hit with this stuff (ad blockers--but I did buy the lower of the two pro levels anyway). But I've often wondered the same thing in general about genuinely obnoxious advertising--everything from loud TV ads to popups that cover the center of the screen.

There is a sincere belief in many quarters that ANY publicity is good publicity.

And you can't convince them otherwise.
Seems in the USA everything costs some money.
My ad blockers (Ublock origin, for instance), were for free, just like my CPS platinum membership...
 
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SteveC

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Seems in the USA everything costs some money.
My ad blockers (Ublock origin, for instance), were for free, just like my CPS platinum membership...
Oh....you may have misunderstood me. Ad blockers don't cost money here, and I don't have a Canon pro membership. Let me explain.

The ad blockers are free here as well; I was saying that even though I had adblockers and never saw the ads (and I'm not seeing any now) on Canon Rumors, I still, nevertheless, got a Canon Rumors pro membership--for this site (not for Canon), one of the benefits was you'd never see ads. I decided to give them some money to thank them for the good information and education I got here.
 
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Del Paso

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Oh....you may have misunderstood me. Ad blockers don't cost money here, and I don't have a Canon pro membership. Let me explain.

The ad blockers are free here as well; I was saying that even though I had adblockers and never saw the ads (and I'm not seeing any now) on Canon Rumors, I still, nevertheless, got a Canon Rumors pro membership--for this site (not for Canon), one of the benefits was you'd never see ads. I decided to give them some money to thank them for the good information and education I got here.
Sorry, I misunderstood you...had the same motivation to become CR Pro!
 
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I've been on the fence about buying an R3, mostly because of the unknown specs of the upcoming R1.

The main thing "holding me back" from just getting the R3 is that I'd prefer a larger sensor (between 35 and 65 MPx or so). If the R1 ends up being significantly more than that, like 80MPx or more, I'll need to consider whether that's really ideal. Handling 80MPx files would be a pain in the butt, especially if shot at 30fps or more. Noise performance would need to be equal to the R3 when down-sampled to consider it as an option.

There are also a few other features that I'd love to see in the high-end Canon cameras.
- pre-capture mode (buffering shots when half-pressing the shutter button, and saving a buffer once you press it)
- more options for burst rates (not just having 30, 15, and 3 fps options; perhaps also having options for 10 and 6 fps)
Why not just shoot CRAW for anything you are using high FPS for and RAW for lower FPS stills? I use CRAW for anything wildlife where I want high FPS (birds, mammals, etc.) and RAW for landscape, etc. The CRAW files are quite capable of post editing improvements.
 
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USMarineCorpsVet

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One will debate what is the "best" sensor size, on one hand, most people post things on the internet, or their computer screen which is in best 8K (2400*3600 pixels)? Thus asking why need for 50-60mpx while they can only see a fraction of it. Then you will say "crop", but again does one need to crop or just get closet to the object and fill the frame with the object, not copping it? Higher mpx means lower dynamic range, much more sensitivity to movements etc. I have a friend with the R6, I have the R5, and to be honest, for most pictures, there is no real difference between our pictures when we post them online. For sports and action photographers, speed of "action" is more important then higher mpx. the R1 is made for those people, not those taking higher mpx shots that needs lesser speed.
Cropping is an unfortunately reality of anyone taking wildlife/ bird images. And mpx are also important in fine art/landscape prints. I know it's a novel idea but maybe someone can make a pro body camera that can do it all. Then we wouldn't have to buy these cameras that are only good at select types of photography. Just because some people are satisfied with 24 mpx, that shouldn't be looked at as working for all.
 
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lustyd

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can make a pro body camera that can do it all
I can't imagine they can, different use-cases have different requirements and always will. The big bottom grip is useful if you want to take portrait pics, but otherwise it's excess bulk and weight. The fully articulating screen is useful for framing, unless you shoot movies when it makes eyes look creepy and a flip up is better. Full frame is great for various reasons, until you want a small and light lens.
I do wish they'd be more clear about the intended purpose of cameras and focus less on a "range" going artificially from "cheap" to "expensive". I could have easily bought a 1D or R3 this year but I chose the M6ii because it was what I needed and the big "better" cameras would have been terrible for what I need.
A "do it all" camera is by definition compromised for all use-cases. Give me good specific options with compromised all rounder capability any day.
 
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USMarineCorpsVet

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A bit OT from the thread, but I dropped Adobe like a hot rock years back when they went to the rental model.

I'm currently using Capture One, and love it...the color control, IMHO can't be touched.
But the catalog and library functions are a bit primitive and wonky.
You might look into On1 RAW...they are MUCH more LR like and have some really great tools.

Capture One

On1 RAW

You might give them a look...I left after LR 5 myself....

HTH,
cayenne
Cap One is a great product. It's definitely a worthy competitor to Adobe. But the file management of Cap One seems awkward.
 
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masterpix

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Cropping is an unfortunately reality of anyone taking wildlife/ bird images. And mpx are also important in fine art/landscape prints. I know it's a novel idea but maybe someone can make a pro body camera that can do it all. Then we wouldn't have to buy these cameras that are only good at select types of photography. Just because some people are satisfied with 24 mpx, that shouldn't be looked at as working for all.
Smile, I think that you are also willing to spend about 20K++ on a body.. Cause any camera is somewhat a compromise to either side of the table. All in all there is one restriction and that is, TIME. The time needed to read the image, put it in the card and there are forces, beyond us, that manage that time. Higher resolution, higher FPS, higher dynamic range (number of bits for each pixel), and others, each pulling to other side and limits the others. With the advance of electronics the lesser time needed for each of those activities, the first digial camears were.. 1MP sensor and were very limited in speed and such? Now you have 50MP with 20-30FPS... but still having 100MP for fashion and architecture, 60FPS for sports, dynamic range to shoot in the dark, and the IBIS to allow you hand held at 1/2 second... I am sure one day we will get there, but not as for today. Give me R1 50MP, 30FPS, 100-200,000 ISO packed with global shutter 10fstp IBIS, quad pixel AF and that it won't break my bank account.... It will make me happy for more than a few years.
 
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Michael Clark

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The global shutter would be pretty cool though, not gonna lie. :)


Ah! That's very interesting. I hope they implement something similar for the R1.

Even the 7D Mark II and 5D Mark IV allowed the user to select the target frame rate for H/M/L burst modes. Of course those were with mechanical shutters.

The lack of or more limited amount of user customization of burst rates with the R-series has been with electronic shutter burst rates, so we'll just have to wait and see what they can/will offer.
 
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